If Neo could manipulate the Matrix so much so that he could create the ability to use the Force within it, then the movies wouldn't be there. He would just be able to snap his fingers and do whatever he wanted to within the Matrix. It's a classic case of overpowering.
NJO Luke > All. I understand the irony.
Originally posted by caedusrulesall
If Neo could manipulate the Matrix so much so that he could create the ability to use the Force within it, then the movies wouldn't be there. He would just be able to snap his fingers and do whatever he wanted to within the Matrix. It's a classic case of overpowering.NJO Luke > All. I understand the irony.
Can force users "snap their fingers and do whatever"? You're making an idiotic conclusion. There are things that Neo can and can not do with the Matrix, just as Luke is with the force.
Originally posted by RobtardMy answer was based on IF someone had insinuated that Neo, with his Matrix powers, can wield the force as Luke does.
Not sure, it would be an as foolish assumption.You didn't answer the question though.
Midichlorians have nothing to do with using the powers of the Matrix.
Originally posted by RobtardLuke can wield the force with a mere thought, it's not quite instantaneous, but it's pretty close.
Can force users "snap their fingers and do whatever"? You're making an idiotic conclusion. There are things that Neo can and can not do with the Matrix, just as Luke is with the force.
Originally posted by Robtard
Can force users "snap their fingers and do whatever"? You're making an idiotic conclusion. There are things that Neo can and can not do with the Matrix, just as Luke is with the force.
Just stop trying. NJO Luke will beat Neo, hands down. And if Neo has enough power over the Matrix to create the Force, he literally can do whatever he wants by snapping his fingers. That's how overpowered he is.
Tell me, Mr. Robtard. What good is a post if you are unable to debate?
-Agent Caedusrulesall
Originally posted by caedusrulesallHe'll call us fanboys, watch and see.
Just stop trying. NJO Luke will beat Neo, hands down. And if Neo has enough power over the Matrix to create the Force, he literally can do whatever he wants by snapping his fingers.Tell me, Mr. Robtard. What good is a post if you are unable to debate?
-Agent Caedusrulesall
Originally posted by caedusrulesall
Just stop trying. NJO Luke will beat Neo, hands down. And if Neo has enough power over the Matrix to create the Force, he literally can do whatever he wants by snapping his fingers. That's how overpowered he is.Tell me, Mr. Robtard. What good is a post if you are unable to debate?
-Agent Caedusrulesall
That's your whole debate, "Luke will just win"? Very poor.
I never said Neo could, I specifically stated that there are thing both Neo and Luke can and can not do wth their powers, go look, it's clearly spelled out.
It's worthless, just as is your "Luke will just win" stance. A few logical conclusions from you would be nice.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He'll call us fanboys, watch and see.
When your stance basically amounts to "Luke can do anything he wants", yeah, that's fanboyism.
You've done this off and on. A few times you've given probable valid solutions, but usually you just resort to shit like this:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Luke just has too many powers, man.
"Luke wins, man, just cuz, just cuz"
Edit: Here is another prime example:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Neo cannot wield the force, therefore he cannot counter it.
You gimp the opposition, but refuse to acknowledge that Luke would suffer the same penalty. That is Fanboyism.
Originally posted by caedusrulesallThat's just plain idiotic. Star Wars "fanboyism" has been well-documented and goes back for decades. Matrix "fanboyism" hardly exists anymore.
Ironic, considering Matrix fanboys are the worst kind. Even worse than SW ones, which we are not. Well, I am a little bit.
Originally posted by RobtardI lay out their powers and analyze which of the two are more powerful, how is that gimping?
When your stance basically amounts to "Luke can do anything he wants", yeah, that's fanboyism.You've done this off and on. A few times you've given probable valid solutions, but usually you just resort to shit like this:
"Luke wins, man, just cuz, just cuz"
Edit: Here is another prime example:
You gimp the opposition, but refuse to acknowledge that Luke would suffer the same penalty. That is Fanboyism.
Originally posted by dadudemonfirst post, luke isnt allowed to manipulate the matrix,
I would say that NJO Luke with his force enlightenment could just easily (if not better than) manipulate the "matrix" as Neo can.I've already pointed out that Luke has a mind that is unique amoung trilliams whereas Neo's is unique amoung millions.
and that is a horrible reason for why luke could win