Neo vs. Luke Skywalker

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
didnt someone mention Neo manipulating the matrix so he too could use the force?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
then you must have misunderstood if thats what you took from it, I stated neo can use his control over the matrix to combat the force so aabilities like a force stasis wouldnt work

electric judgement would pretty much fail to work on neo seeing as it steals an enemys strength and will power, neos strength is near limitless and he could fight for eternity without exhausting

Originally posted by Robtard
If one a few have that ability, where has it been established that Luke could just jump onboard the Matrix and manipulate it, never mind doing it from scratch during a fight?

Well, since you put it that way...why are we even having this discussion, obviously, Neo wins this. 🙂

I've already given more than one reason Luke could possibly use the Matrix every bit as well, if not better than, Neo.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
first post, luke isnt allowed to manipulate the matrix,

Fair enough. My bad. I apologize.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and that is a horrible reason for why luke could win

It is not in anyway a terrible reason Luke would win. It's just one of many. Why would it be out of the reach of NJO Luke's ability to "learn" how to manipulate the matrix just as well as any of "The One's"?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
electric judgement would pretty much fail to work on neo seeing as it steals an enemys strength and will power, neos strength is near limitless and he could fight for eternity without exhausting

Fail. No he couldn't. Not by a long shot. Neo is still alive on the other end. Neo has even shown mental exhaustion. Neo has also shown weakness due to simply not having a mind complex enough to do more than one uber thing at a time.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and you have proof of this?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, since you put it that way...why are we even having this discussion, obviously, Neo wins this. 🙂

I've already given more than one reason Luke could possibly use the Matrix every bit as well, if not better than, Neo.

Fair enough. My bad. I apologize.

It is not in anyway a terrible reason Luke would win. It's just one of many. Why would it be out of the reach of NJO Luke's ability to "learn" how to manipulate the matrix just as well as any of "The One's"?

Fail. No he couldn't. Not by a long shot. Neo is still alive on the other end. Neo has even shown mental exhaustion. Neo has also shown weakness due to simply not having a mind complex enough to do more than one uber thing at a time.

youre simply theorizing about how luke would work i nthe matrix,however doesnt matter in the slightest seeeing as luke has no access to the matrix

neo has barely shown mental exhaustion, when he full became the one he couldve faught with agent smith as long as he wanted to, he realized the fight wouldnt have ended which is why he pulled his trick at the end

how does neo "not doing more than one uber thing" shown exhaustion....he has barely ever NEEDED to do more than one thing

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and you have proof of this?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...proof that neo uses the matrix to propell himself? ...common sense.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
then you must have misunderstood if thats what you took from it, I stated neo can use his control over the matrix to combat the force so aabilities like a force stasis wouldnt work

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
no, this:

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes he could, seeing as he propells himself using his manipulation of the matrix, rather tha nunder his own might, so the more force he puts into manipulating the matrix the harder it will be for luke to ry and keep him still

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, since you put it that way...why are we even having this discussion, obviously, Neo wins this. 🙂

I've already given more than one reason Luke could possibly use the Matrix every bit as well, if not better than, Neo.

Where, why, how?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Harder than it is for Luke to move entire planets? 🙄

Google it, it's in an EU SW book, one of the few I havent read. Someone else here read it, they can verify it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Google it, it's in an EU SW book, one of the few I havent read. Someone else here read it, they can verify it.

Well, the one I know of for sure, Kyp Durron moves a spaceship from Yavin 4 to one of its suns using only the power of his mind, It's in the young Jedi Knight series.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, the one I know of for sure, Kyp Durron moves a spaceship from Yavin 4 to one of its suns using only the power of his mind, It's in the young Jedi Knight series.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
that feat however doesnt belong to luke...and spaceship<<<<<<<<<<<planet

If this student can move a ship with his mind, imagine what Luke can do, what Luke HAS done.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The feat belongs to one of Lukes STUDENTS, someone who is in no way as well trained in wielding the force, you just supported my argument without knowing it.

If this student can move a ship with his mind, imagine what Luke can do, what Luke HAS done.

trinity can dodge bullets, does this mean neo can dodge lightning - no even though neo is much faster tha ntrinity there is no proof that he can dodge lightning

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yo uhavent given any feats except for what his student has done,, and no his student moving a ship i nno way supports that luke can move a planet

trinity can dodge bullets, does this mean neo can dodge lightning - no even though neo is much faster tha ntrinity there is no proof that he can dodge lightning

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where, why, how?

Allow me to pull "an RJ"...its in the the thread...look it up. 😐