Thor vs Superman

Started by LandShark453 pages

no I didnt read that one but I see superman caught the hammer didnt get struck with it, but Im getting your point I THINK the hammer isnt jack against supes?

Originally posted by LandShark
no I didnt read that one but I see superman caught the hammer didnt get struck with it, but Im getting your point I THINK the hammer isnt jack against supes?
No, the point is, Thor didn't get back up from one good swing from Supes.

Originally posted by Juntai
No, the point is, Thor didn't get back up from one good swing from Supes.

Supes got knocked out of a few panels in that comic too. It's not hard to remember that part.

Thor- 1
Superman- 1

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okay that I have no doubt he got knocked out I mean if its official and marvel and dc agree supes can beat thor thats end of debate i guess, but since youve read that issue educate me here did the hammer seem to have any magical effect on supes like weakened from the blow like more than if say hulk punched him?

This blow knocked him out of a few panels. This hurt more than anything Hulk has done to him:

Again if Thor can hurt a being like Galactus:

Kill a being who was practically on par with other Skyfathers:

And Kill Durok who single handedly handed Surfer and Thor their asses on different occasions without using his hammer)He summoned a godblast while holding Durok:

Supes won't survive one of those.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Supes got knocked out of a few panels in that comic too. It's not hard to remember that part.

Thor- 1
Superman- 1

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Just because he's not in a panel or two in a comic that was composed of such a massive amount of characters doesn't mean jack. They never showed him being knocked out by Thor, but they DID show Thor being knocked out by Supes.
Shit, for all you know he could have decided to do his Super spin and cut a hole through the planet to save Taiwan from a tidal wave.
Get the **** out here and quit making shit up.

Originally posted by Juntai
Just because he's not in a panel or two in a comic that was composed of such a massive amount of characters doesn't mean jack. They never showed him being knocked out by Thor, but they DID show Thor being knocked out by Supes.
Shit, for all you know he could have decided to do his Super spin and cut a hole through the planet to save Taiwan from a tidal wave.
Get the **** out here and quit making shit up.

Busiek didn't want him to shown knocked out, Not DC's flagship character. 🙂

Where was he for those few panels?

I can tell you... Knocked the f()ck out. 🙂

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Busiek didn't want him to shown knocked out, Not DC's flagship character. 🙂

Where was he for those few panels?

I can tell you... Knocked the f()ck out. 🙂

You mean Busiek, who was a Marvel, specifically .. an . . .Avengers writer at the time?

Originally posted by Juntai
You mean Busiek, who was a Marvel, specifically .. an . . .Avengers writer at the time?

Correct. You get a thumbs up. 👆

Yeah, because that makes sense.

And Batman is the flagship character, and has been pretty much forever. His title has sold more comics than any other in history.. and it's spawned more comics than any other comic in history... Though Superman is A central figure, but there's a reason Batman is known as "the worlds favorite". Shit, go through the last few years at the Diamond counts,between Batman's own titles, and Batman/Superman... the last few years alone he has been 5 of the top ten.

okay okay I stick to my original thoughts then whoever strikes first and strikes hard no mercy wins!

Thor would beat superman into ground beef, damn I hungry. Thor powers, ability dwarfs that of Superman in every way, because superman has supersonic speed that gives him the victory or an edge, bullsh**. Thor can see people at great speeds people who are faster than light itself and react to them, it would a great battle no doubt about it would buy five books in a heart beat if it;s done well. In all case it won't happen DC won't let their flagship lose even though thor is more powerful than superman they rather have tie than a defeat. And to me thats way dislike I DC they can't be man enough to say yes, yes superman can lose to silver surfer, Thor, hulk, etc. If marvel can do it so can DC.

BTW. Thor 7/10

Originally posted by K3VIL
Are you dumb or you like to look like a dumb guy?
h1a8 means 1years and 8months old?
Cause that's the only explanation for this.
You're still arguing no sense things and the thing that surprise me the most is that there's still someone that believes you.
Thor's GodForce it's his supreme attack, he uses it only against the strongest foes, see to stop the Juggernaut for a few.The GodForce is powered by the life force of Thor that's why he can't always use it.
Superman punching him at 1% of lightspeed, YES, 1% he cannot achieve full lightspeed, would knock him unconscious or at least throw him far above from his standing position, but you're still forgetting that Thor's speed without Mjolnir isn't 200 Mph, he's fast as the lightning, and so are his reflexes, it means he can counterattack Superman, he's not the Hulk or Rhino.
Thor has taken the Destroyer eyebeams and survive it.You sounds me kinda fanboy

No i'm not dumb. You don't keep up with current Marvel. "He don't!" I repeat, "He don't have the God force anymore!" Read the latest marvel encyclopedia for yourself. Also Thor isn't that fast fanboy. He can run at about 100mph (look it up) (this is the speed of his limbs) thus he is not as fast as lightning. Writers have him blocking lasers and stuff are in the wrong since this would require him to move at least 99% the speed of light or have spider or jedi sense (preconceived notions).
His durability is a 5 out of 7 in many encyclopedias and cards. Writers (especially in the old days) are many times wrong (they want to sell comics). They go against what the actual encyclopedia or cards say. Hulk is a 6 in durability and he cannot survive a near miss of a nuclear attack (this fact is from Marvel). Thor isn't more durable than Hulk. This is inconsistent and contradictory. Thus I use only exact power ratings, science, logic, and common sense and not faulty money hungry writing.

"No i'm not dumb. You don't keep up with current Marvel. "He don't!" I repeat, "He don't have the God force anymore!" Read the latest marvel encyclopedia for yourself"

Sure he has. He cant use it because hes currently in comic limbo.

"This is inconsistent and contradictory. Thus I use only exact power ratings, science, logic, and common sense and not faulty money hungry writing."

I dont get it. Why are you using handbooks then, that always show up being contraditory with the comics?

Originally posted by h1a8
No i'm not dumb. You don't keep up with current Marvel. "He don't!" I repeat, "He don't have the God force anymore!" Read the latest marvel encyclopedia for yourself. Also Thor isn't that fast fanboy. He can run at about 100mph (look it up) (this is the speed of his limbs) thus he is not as fast as lightning. Writers have him blocking lasers and stuff are in the wrong since this would require him to move at least 99% the speed of light or have spider or jedi sense (preconceived notions).
His durability is a 5 out of 7 in many encyclopedias and cards. Writers (especially in the old days) are many times wrong (they want to sell comics). They go against what the actual encyclopedia or cards say. Hulk is a 6 in durability and he cannot survive a near miss of a nuclear attack (this fact is from Marvel). Thor isn't more durable than Hulk. This is inconsistent and contradictory. Thus I use only exact power ratings, science, logic, and common sense and not faulty money hungry writing.

11) INVULNERABILITY: The following are historical examples of incredibly devastating forces that has been used against Thor. Thor has survived each of these highly Lethal attacks, and most of the time have come out unscathed. A) Thor has been on the receiving end of Zeus and Blitziana's LIGHTNING bolts. B) Thor withstood a barrage of ARTILLARY fire with ease, and a Heat Seeking Missile- see Thor#480, and Thor-#247; C) and in the J. Kirby's days Thor used to test his invulnerability by having a Cobalt Bomb explode next to him. D) Kang’s Dissolution blast to the EXTREME did not fell Thor-Avengers-#143, and in Avengers-#295 Mechanosaurus struck Thor with a Megahertz Artillery fire that would easily destroy any vehicle to pieces- with no visible effect on Thor (Note: even bullets from a powerful sub-machine gun can’t hope to accomplish the same amount of penetration or destruction that could a Megahertz artillery attack by Mechnanosaurus). In Avengers-#5-pg 20- it explicitly stated that nothing, not even an ATOMIC BLAST could injure Thor, or his hammer. E) Thor resisted the full power of the Man from Saturn’s Graviton ray-Thor-#255. F) Thor withstood the Thermal Man's HEAT blast that could melt Tanks instantly, also, Thor was insensitive to the Lava Man's attack- see Avengers #5. In addition, Thor withstood a direct hit by Firelord’s Cosmic Flame with absolutely no dire visible effect on him- Thor-#306, and Ghost Rider’s Flame proved to be totally ineffectual against Thor, as well- Avengers-#214, and when the Planet Ego raised his internal heat temperature to the EXTREME, it had no affect on Thor-See Thor-#133. G) Thor was unaffected by an Alien Freeze Ray-Avengers-#14 (vol.1). H) In terms of indescribable sheer Magical, and Cosmic power, for instance, Thor was just temporarily stunned by Ego’s pulsating energy attack that would, physically, have rendered AN ENTIRE RACE UNCOUNSCIOUS- Thor-#133. In addition, Thor withstood blast by Odin-Thor-#241, by the Celestials-Thor-#300, and by a space Armada-Avengers-Annual#7. However, the three most impressive testimony events that showed Thor's invulnerability, however, was when he, almost, took a direct hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion Thor felt from space to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Also, Thor resisted the weight of Multitude of Planets-Thor Annual-#9, and the Gravity of a Neutron Star-Thor-#282. The other event took place when Thor paid an uninvited visit to ATUM in the Sun's core. If you think that this wasn’t enough, Thor has survive incredible physical punishment by the likes of the Destroyer, Durok, the Mangog, Surtur- Thor-#351, by the Devourer-Marvel Two In One-#23, The Thermal Man, Terminus, the 300,000 ft. tall Rhun god when he swatted Thor aside-Thor#220, and the Celestial- The One Above All- when he not only swatted Thor aside, but did hurled at him unnumbered tons of delicate machinery at him with no significant adverse effect on Thor-See Thor-#288.
10) SPEED: A) Thor could throw the hammer at the speed of light. See Thor#140, Thor#274; and, or can swing the hammer at TWICE the speed of light- Journey Into Mystery#102. B) In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. C) Also, Thor could appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). D) In addition, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happen when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes). E) In the early issues of Journey Into Mystery, there were instances that Thor used Super-Human speed, physically speaking-that is. However, it’s impossible to measure his speed based on those depictions. However, in Marvel Team-up#26, it gives a slight more accurate description on Thor’s Super-Human speed, and you could make a similar case in Invaders-#33, where Thor (with his hammer) deflected artillery bullets fired at him by moving his ENITRE LEFT ARM at super-Human speed. Specifically, in Marvel Team Up-#26, the writer makes it fundamentally clear that Thor can move almost faster than mere MORTAL eyes can follow, and in Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that according to her was beyond comprehension. Thor stated that he was swift as the very lightning itself. G) Finally, the High Evolutionary using Thor’s DNA, did create a real Super-Speedster in Zefra. Question is, does Thor possess similar potential to that of Zefra due to his own unique DNA? After all, Thor’s DNA is quite different than that of mortals- Avengers-#14 (vol.1)

Thor in one of his last appearences, shooting GodForce to stop Loki's army and kill Durok the Destroyer

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supes takes this 8/10 times.
Supes IS FASTER...he is.
Supes is STRONGER.
Supes is more durable.
Supes can pick up Mjolnir.

Now, Supes may be Thor's superior physically, but I must give Thor his credit. Mjolnir is a MAGIC hammer so it can hurt Supes, and is by far Thors best chance. With the Hammer...Thor has a chance..without..Supes wins.


Faster?Yes, not much faster.Thor's reflexes grant him to react and dodge objects while traveling by Mjolnir which can propel him at lightspeed X3.
Stronger?Prove it, cause Thor has feats which put him on Superman's level.Check it out
More durable?See the link above.
Can pick up Mjolnir?
Going by the "canon" of AVENGERS/JLA, Supes couldn't gave back Mjolnir to Thor, he couldn't even move it, he's not worth of it.

I think that Thor and Supes, physically are about equal.

Both have ridiculous invulnerability.

Both have super-strength capable of moving planets.

Supes is marginally faster.

BUT>>>>>>>>

The battle isn't just about strength, speed and toughness.

It's also about skill and experience.

Thor has both of these in more abundance than Supes.

When you add a magic hammer...

I say Thor 6-7/10.

Thor will beat superman into submission.

I keep hearing about Thors speed.

I need to see some scans of him actually using superspeed of any kind.

Anybody?