Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by Newjak
Well there is the whole he's not so good against magic

I understand

i know he's not good against magic, hence the fubar... but the guy just has this... this aura, this 'i can't give up' sorta thing going on... im not saying thor doesnt, im just saying, that with superman its something a little bit extra imo...

yes the hammer will hurt like hell, as will the lightning and everything else... i just think supes can give as good as he gets...

on a good day, and with the hammer, thor could very easily take it... but overrall, i gotta give it to supes 6/10... 😬

I like Thor easily.

Originally posted by pr1983
i know he's not good against magic, hence the fubar... but the guy just has this... this aura, this 'i can't give up' sorta thing going on... im not saying thor doesnt, im just saying, that with superman its something a little bit extra imo...

yes the hammer will hurt like hell, as will the lightning and everything else... i just think supes can give as good as he gets...

on a good day, and with the hammer, thor could very easily take it... but overrall, i gotta give it to supes 6/10... 😬

I don't sompletely agree with it but we do agree on some things it would be close in a H2H fight

Originally posted by bigbran
Damn!
Why wouldn't he go back in time, so he wouldn't have to sacrifice it? 😛
Was it in a Thor comic?

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and i'm pretty sure it WAS a thor comic. a quick google might turn it up. i may be wrong about the issue numbers, but it WAS quite a while ago.

and nj -- thor was within ATUM'S world in the sun. he wasn't really 'in the sun', if you catch my meaning. thor has never been shown to be able to survive within a star. 🙂

Originally posted by pr1983
let me ask, if you (or anyone, this is an open-ended question) were writing marvel v dc, and they told you to do superman v thor, how would you write it?

To be fair to both parties, it would have to be a two-part fight.
In the first half, it would be more/less fisticuffs (+ hammer as club), with the win to Superman. Even if you don't wanna give him the speedblitz advantage (and IMO, I think he Should have it), Supes still has two advantages over Thor: without having to spin anything or incant anything, Superman deploys flight and energy projection much more quickly than Thor can.

Superman wins. They make an uneasy truce, realizing there may be some Common Foe behind this. Story goes on for a bit.

Later on (for whatever PIS reason), they fight again, only this time, Thor knows what he's up against, whereas Superman doesn't fully know yet what to expect from the hammer. Using energy-absorbing, interdimensional whatnot or whatever, Thor keeps Superman at bay while weakening him.

The Common Foe makes some stupid PIS move, and the two heroes join forces once more.

Common Foe is eventually defeated.

Fight Score is now 1 to 1. Last panel of the comic: Thor makes some comment about how he and Superman now fully understand and respect each other's power, while Superman winks through the fourth wall at the readers.book

someone has prolly done this, but . . . how would everyone compare them in stats?

1. strength
2. speed
3. endurance
4. 'energy abilities'
5. ability to exploit the others' weakness (some see thor's speed as a weakness)

any other appropriate traits i may have missed can be added.

might also consider each individual's single greatest feat of strength and single greatest feat of over-all power. (thor's hurling jormungand and blasting exitar's brain dome come to mind immediately, but he may have others . . .)

Originally posted by Mindship
To be fair to both parties, it would have to be a two-part fight.
In the first half, it would be more/less fisticuffs (+ hammer as club), with the win to Superman. Even if you don't wanna give him the speedblitz advantage (and IMO, I think he Should have it), Supes still has two advantages over Thor: without having to spin anything or incant anything, Superman deploys flight and energy projection much more quickly than Thor can.

Superman wins. They make an uneasy truce, realizing there may be some Common Foe behind this. Story goes on for a bit.

Later on (for whatever PIS reason), they fight again, only this time, Thor knows what he's up against, whereas Superman doesn't fully know yet what to expect from the hammer. Using energy-absorbing, interdimensional whatnot or whatever, Thor keeps Superman at bay while weakening him.

The Common Foe makes some stupid PIS move, and the two heroes join forces once more.

Common Foe is eventually defeated.

Fight Score is now 1 to 1. Last panel of the comic: Thor makes some comment about how he and Superman now fully understand and respect each other's power, while Superman winks through the fourth wall at the readers.

nice. i keep telling you you gotta hang around here more! 🙂

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Originally posted by leonidas
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and i'm pretty sure it WAS a thor comic. a quick google might turn it up. i may be wrong about the issue numbers, but it WAS quite a while ago.

and nj -- thor was within ATUM'S world in the sun. he wasn't really 'in the sun', if you catch my meaning. thor has never been shown to be able to survive within a star. 🙂

Gladiator speed

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-gladiator.html

Speed: Supersonic
Flight Speed: Warp speed

Conclusion: fast travel speed does not mean fast fighting speed

Originally posted by leonidas
someone has prolly done this, but . . . how would everyone compare them in stats?

1. strength
2. speed
3. endurance
4. 'energy abilities'
5. ability to exploit the others' weakness (some see thor's speed as a weakness)

any other appropriate traits i may have missed can be added.

might also consider each individual's single greatest feat of strength and single greatest feat of over-all power. (thor's hurling jormungand and blasting exitar's brain dome come to mind immediately, but he may have others . . .)

Originally posted by masterbruce
Gladiator speed

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-gladiator.html

Speed: Supersonic
Flight Speed: Warp speed

Conclusion: fast travel speed does not mean fast fighting speed

Originally posted by Newjak
I understand 😛

I don't sompletely agree with it but we do agree on some things it would be close in a H2H fight

most definately...

Originally posted by Mindship
To be fair to both parties, it would have to be a two-part fight.
In the first half, it would be more/less fisticuffs (+ hammer as club), with the win to Superman. Even if you don't wanna give him the speedblitz advantage (and IMO, I think he Should have it), Supes still has two advantages over Thor: without having to spin anything or incant anything, Superman deploys flight and energy projection much more quickly than Thor can.

Superman wins. They make an uneasy truce, realizing there may be some Common Foe behind this. Story goes on for a bit.

Later on (for whatever PIS reason), they fight again, only this time, Thor knows what he's up against, whereas Superman doesn't fully know yet what to expect from the hammer. Using energy-absorbing, interdimensional whatnot or whatever, Thor keeps Superman at bay while weakening him.

The Common Foe makes some stupid PIS move, and the two heroes join forces once more.

Common Foe is eventually defeated.

Fight Score is now 1 to 1. Last panel of the comic: Thor makes some comment about how he and Superman now fully understand and respect each other's power, while Superman winks through the fourth wall at the readers.book

damn good... 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
someone has prolly done this, but . . . how would everyone compare them in stats?

1. strength
2. speed
3. endurance
4. 'energy abilities'
5. ability to exploit the others' weakness (some see thor's speed as a weakness)

any other appropriate traits i may have missed can be added.

might also consider each individual's single greatest feat of strength and single greatest feat of over-all power. (thor's hurling jormungand and blasting exitar's brain dome come to mind immediately, but he may have others . . .)

1. Supes (about even if Thor has the hammer, damn grammar mistakes)
2. Superman
3. Thor (Supes' weakness to magic is the main thing)
4. Not sure... Thor's are more varied, but Superman is packing some power with that hv...
5. Thor

Originally posted by Mindship
[B]To be fair to both parties, it would have to be a two-part fight.
In the first half, it would be more/less fisticuffs (+ hammer as club), with the win to Superman. Even if you don't wanna give him the speedblitz advantage (and IMO, I think he Should have it), Supes still has two advantages over Thor: without having to spin anything or incant anything, Superman deploys flight and energy projection much more quickly than Thor can.

Superman Flight:
Fly under his own power via manipulating gravitons around his body and through tk.
Thor Flight:
Via Mjolnir, but he can do it very quickly and can manouver while in mid flight with ease, used as he is to tremendous speed.

Wanna gave Supes the edge on flight?It's not enough.Thor can deploy energy blasts of various kind with ease, the hammer is like an extension of his body, it's not a 9mm gun to recharge.

1. strength - supes
2. speed - supes
3. endurance - tie?
4. 'energy abilities' - supes uses a lot more energy attact
5. ability to exploit the others' weakness (some see thor's speed as a weakness) - tie. Thor has the magical advantage while Superman can use the speed advantage.

Originally posted by leonidas
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and i'm pretty sure it WAS a thor comic. a quick google might turn it up. i may be wrong about the issue numbers, but it WAS quite a while ago.

and nj -- thor was within ATUM'S world in the sun. he wasn't really 'in the sun', if you catch my meaning. thor has never been shown to be able to survive within a star. 🙂

To answer the question, you are about to ask... his clothes were magical...

Originally posted by bigbran
Damn, now I'm going to have to look for it...

To answer the question, you are about to ask... his clothes were magical...

now show the preceding page . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
now show the preceding page . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by bigbran
When he got transported?
I'll have to get it, wait.

Originally posted by pr1983
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he can do all this while getting pummelled by superman's fists, heat vision and cold/wind breath?

Bizzaro is atleast as strong as Thor....

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ah somebody finally mentioned the freeze breath of Superman. It's a underrated power he has. In the latest Action Comics he froze and contained Bizarro with his freeze breath.

Bizzaro is atleast as strong as Thor....