Originally posted by batdude123Yet he has to react to flying at those speeds otherwise he would run into everything so he has to be able to react to them.
More than I can say for Thor who doesn't have ONE speedblitz feat in his career.Exactly.... with MJOLNIR. He has to use the hammer as a catapult to get him to those uber speeds. His travelling speeds have absolutely no bearing on this fight, considering it's about actual combat speed.
People don't speed blitz in every fight. Thor/Gladiator fights have been brawls. Gladiator didn't speed blitz Thor in any encounter. Silver Surfer has never speed blitzed Thor in any encounter. In fact, SS has never speedblitzed any meta human opponent he's ever come up against. I don't know what's so hard to understand that they weren't using speed against him. You're simply saying that because they CAN do this or they CAN do that with their speed that they DID do that to Thor in a fight with him (which was never shown). That is a whole other level of flawed logic that I really don't want to explore. ❌
Thor being stated faster than the lightning he commands is a hyperbolic statement. Superman's also said that his reflexes make lightning seem like it's moving in slow motion to him. If you want any real bearing on Thor's combat speed feats, then read some books of his. On average, he's nowhere near as fast as Superman is in a fight. On average, he's around the speed of sound with reflexes about Quicksilver level.
Thor then finds that the energy that is siphoned away is just as quickly restored. Then, all of a sudden the fighting ground around them starts to change. What is that you're asking yourself? TORQUASM-VO!!!! Yeah that's right, I said it. Superman procedes to pound Thor on his mental play ground where he is essentially God. He can use it to do pretty much w/e he wants. That includes access to Thor's own power set, and the ability to take any amount of punishment with no damage.
Speed blitz to T-Vo thrashing ftw!!! Kthx bye...
Next Glads was stated as having the speed advanatage and was using it in there fights to get more hits in so he was in essentially SPEEDBLITZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but it wasn't anything Thor couldn't see and at least somewhat react to.
Thor then completely takes the Solar Power from Superman(Dr. POlaris did it to Superman) like he took away Mags magnetic powers before then he commences to Soul Suck/BFR/Kick the crap out of/or Godblast a weakened Superman for the win 😱
Originally posted by NewjakCan Thor drain a locked source?Thor then completely takes the Solar Power from Superman(Dr. POlaris did it to Superman) like he took away Mags magnetic powers before then he commences to Soul Suck/BFR/Kick the crap out of/or Godblast a weakened Superman for the win 😱
And Polaris didn't drain Superman. He stopped Supes from absorbing energy in a small area. And Supes was not fighting back at the time.
Originally posted by snoopdoggActually Superman was weakened in that comic and later on Spiderman tried to beat on Supes where Supes goes to punch Spider-man thinks a complete essay before stopping just before Sipder-man gets hit because Clark knows it will kill Peter but even though the punch never touches him Spiderman still gets hit with the force of a hurricane sending him flying backwards.
That's a typical statement. But it's not true. Venom took it to Superman....
Spider-man never knew what hit him. So there was a reason why Clark got trashed by Venom becuase DC didn't let it be a the full-powered version.
Originally posted by Newjak
Yet he has to react to flying at those speeds otherwise he would run into everything so he has to be able to react to them.Next Glads was stated as having the speed advanatage and was using it in there fights to get more hits in so he was in essentially SPEEDBLITZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but it wasn't anything Thor couldn't see and at least somewhat react to.Thor then completely takes the Solar Power from Superman(Dr. POlaris did it to Superman) like he took away Mags magnetic powers before then he commences to Soul Suck/BFR/Kick the crap out of/or Godblast a weakened Superman for the win 😱
Him not running into anything is a technicality. It says nothing about his reflexes.
That's not speedblitzing. That's called using speed as an advantage. There is a difference.
And then figures out it was all a ruse thanks to TORQUASM-VO!!! 😱 😛
Originally posted by snoopdoggThor can lock unto energy sources break the connection and drain them converting them for his own use 😉
Can Thor drain a locked source?And Polaris didn't drain Superman. He stopped Supes from absorbing energy in a small area. And Supes was not fighting back at the time.
Originally posted by Newjak
No but Slade has outmanuvered Superman where Supes had a hard time following.Batman has cuaght Superman off guard before
and you don't think that's PIS?
dude, you're one of my fav posters, but you're definitely showing some signs of Thor fanboyism in this thread with some of the arguments you've made.
Originally posted by NewjakAs far as I know it's never been proven that Supes was weakened at the time. Unless you can prove me wrong.
Actually Superman was weakened in that comic and later on Spiderman tried to beat on Supes where Supes goes to punch Spider-man thinks a complete essay before stopping just before Sipder-man gets hit because Clark knows it will kill Peter but even though the punch never touches him Spiderman still gets hit with the force of a hurricane sending him flying backwards.Spider-man never knew what hit him. So there was a reason why Clark got trashed by Venom becuase DC didn't let it be a the full-powered version.
Originally posted by batdude123You can't speed blitz someone who can react to you. that is why Glads didn't he couldn't but he did have an advanage in speed which was shown meaning he was using his speed 😉
Him not running into anything is a technicality. It says nothing about his reflexes.That's not speedblitzing. That's called using speed as an advantage. There is a difference.
And then figures out it was all a ruse thanks to TORQUASM-VO!!! 😱 😛
Doesn't T-VO require the person's will to be greater then the other's and since Thor has great willpower to say Superman's mighty attack works isn't completely true. Besides Thor has already mind wiped Superman into thinking he is Thor's sidekick
Originally posted by masterbrucePoint shouldn't everyone of Thor's low showings be PIS as well 😉
and you don't think that's PIS?dude, you're one of my fav posters, but you're definitely showing some signs of Thor fanboyism in this thread with some of the arguments you've made.
Snoop: Thor has broken the connection between Cyttorak and Juggernaut for a limited amount of time becuase he locked on and decided to use the Hammer so long as someone is using energy to fuel their power Thor can locate and drain it plus Cain's energy source greater than Superman's
I'm sure there is some reason that Superman was weaker when he fought Venom I think maybe sickness K-nite I'm not sure but later on in the comic he was healthy and was backto his normal self being able to kill Spiderman in one punch before Spiderman could even move.
Originally posted by Newjak
Therefore he fought Gladiator(a lightspeeder) who was stated as using his speed on Thor but he Thor could react to him therefore wouldn't that mean Thor could react to Superman(another lightspeeder)
ummm, fighting Gladiator wouldn't be a lowshowing for Thor.
A low showing means losing to someone who has no right of beating you. (ie Firelord losing to Spiderman)
If Thor has lost to Namor, that would be a PIS low showing.
Originally posted by masterbruceThats what I mean that is a good showing for Thor and since it isn't a low showing shouldn't that be used since it isn't a low showing?
ummm, fighting Gladiator wouldn't be a lowshowing for Thor.A low showing means losing to someone who has no right of beating you. (ie Firelord losing to Spiderman)
If Thor has lost to Namor, that would be a PIS low showing.
And what we know about that fight is a known and documtented lightspeeder in Glads was shown and stated using his speed on Thor and Thor was able to react therefore he should be able to react to another lightspeeder in Superman
