Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by Badabing
The point is Freddy currently has the powers of Shazam as in Captain Marvel and Billy is currently on the rock as the Wizard Shazam. There's always been a distinction between the Wizard and his champion.

Nitpicking and semantics aside, this is [b]current versions, as of 04/12/2008, of both characters. Let's get back to the topic. Thanks. [/B]

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=461941&highlight=title%3A%28Jimmy+Olsen%29

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That is similar to this thread.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The way I see it, you're both right to a degree. When the difference in the character's powerlevel is vast, like in this case current Thor (w/Odin Force, apparently) and classic Thor, it's better to use the one the original poster intended, and not the current one. The same goes if a poster bumps Jimmy Olsen vs Foggy Nelson or such. But when there's threads such as Batman vs Wolverine/Iron Fist and the like, if a person bumps the thread, it's usually self-explinatory that current versions of the characters that should be used.

that would be fine if the other character has no upgrades of his own. again, its biased to use classic thor and then pull out superman's latest showings. obviously, classic thor wouldnt have a prayer against the current man of steel

Edit.

Originally posted by Juntai
(Current) THOR vs Superman

Mar 14th, 2005 03:18 PM

I doubt he meant Odinforce Thor. The first three quarters of the thread don't have Odinforce in mind at all. Why should it change now? It's nearly a completely different character, certainly a different intepretation than the thread creator had in mind. Or anyone previously debating in the thread had in mind. And should have it's own thread, if anything.

It was me that actually started the (Current versions) THOR vs Superman with the fight to be at the Bonneville Salt Flats. To the death.

I made the specific distinction of (Current) characters because the thread of 2005 wasn't set up using those current forms which are very much different.

But then Bada merged my thread into the old one 🙁 . Which in my biased opinion should have stood on it's own.

If the forum was 20+ years old and there was a Superman vs ????? thread or a Spider-Man vs ????? thread started in the early 80's, would we still be using Pre Crisis Superman or Symbiote Spidey in todays debate? No.

Current versions is how the threads work unless a specific version is indicated.

I asked you all to stay on topic. These are current depictions of the characters. Please debate the topic and stop spamming up the thread. Thanks.

Originally posted by Badabing
I asked you all to stay on topic. These are current depictions of the characters. Please debate the topic and stop spamming up the thread. Thanks.

Originally posted by h1a8
of course. but not in a comic though.

This is just plain stupid so superman can beat an upper level skyfather like Odin? Complete nonsense

When will this eva stop? Superman can now beat evryone. From silver surfer to thanos to thor with the odin force to even odin himself. We should just make him a skyfather and be done with it because there is no amount of reason or logic that can change the minds of some people regarding superman. This ultimate fanboyism has got to stop.

Superman The current one cannot defeat Odin, Silver Surfer, Thanos, Or anyone higher then that, but he really isn't that far below them. If anything I do believe that if he was pre-crisis, Prime, or 1Mil he probably could have been tied with them

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman The current one cannot defeat Odin, Silver Surfer, Thanos, Or anyone higher then that, but he really isn't that far below them. If anything I do believe that if he was pre-crisis, Prime, or 1Mil he probably could have been tied with them

Not far below surfer maybe
Not far below thanos bigger maybe
Not far below thor with odin force HUGE MAYBE( based on the fact that we are still discovering what he can do)
NOT far below ODIN is just palin foolish

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman The current one cannot defeat Odin, Silver Surfer, Thanos, Or anyone higher then that, but he really isn't that far below them. If anything I do believe that if he was pre-crisis, Prime, or 1Mil he probably could have been tied with them

You do realize that Odin is far above guys like Surfer, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do realize that Odin is far above guys like Surfer, right?

http://www.comicvine.com/dc-power-rankings/42222/

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No of course I don't. Thats why I said Superman Pre-Crisis, Superman Prime(Gold) and Superman 1 mill. If you look at the Dc power ranking it has Superman on a higher tier then Odin. ALTHOUGH it's not official. It's something to consider

http://www.comicvine.com/dc-power-rankings/42222/

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No of course I don't. Thats why I said Superman Pre-Crisis, Superman Prime(Gold) and Superman 1 mill. If you look at the Dc power ranking it has Superman on a higher tier then Odin. ALTHOUGH it's not official. It's something to consider

http://www.comicvine.com/dc-power-rankings/42222/

So if I were to make a list and place Rick Jones above Superman, that would be something to consider?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Are you serious with this? 😐

Originally posted by Avlon
Agreed. That and the ridiculous power assumption.

This is a resurrected Thor, how do we know if his classic abilites all apply? On top of that, just because he has the Odin power in him, it doesn't mean he automatically gets all of Odins feats.

That would be like someone debating that a the last 2 Ion's can share feats, or that Green Lanterns feats are all interchangeable since they all get the same training...

👆

It would be an assumption if he were actually new to the power. Considering he's possessed the power for about 5 years, I believe we have an accurate gauge of his power.

Um.... because he still possess Mjolnir.

Who said anything about him having Odin's feats? I only pointed out that the Odin Power gives him the ability to amp his physical attributes. Something he has and can do.

Hmm..... and you speak of desperation.

Originally posted by Avlon
I started nothing.

Thor supporters brought it up out of desperation and I in turn responded.

Then it became an Thor/Odin amalgam vs Superman thread.

I simply debated what was brought up.

Please get your facts straight, both in what your accusations are and in the thread.

That, and stop making up imaginary boosts and amps with an unproven version of Thor. 🙂

Was it not you that the continually said if it were current Thor it'd be a better fight but with Classic it was a massacre?

No, actually we didn't. Or at least I didn't.

Again, ignore the fact that Thor's used the power to amp his physical abilities. Why don't you just read up on the character?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
...maybe