Originally posted by Larceny
What the hell? The Odin Power doesn't have anything to do with Mjolnir.
Who said anything about that?
Originally posted by Larceny
it is, he didn't get an upgrade, he got a downgrade. He's possessed the Odin Power for years.
We all know he got a downgrade from RKT... what does this have to do with the debate exactly? He still doesn't have any real feats with it.
Originally posted by Larceny
the hell are you talking about?
Your ridiculous "one shot Doomsday" assumption/scenario.
Originally posted by Larceny
is everyones else's. There isn't a single poster in this thread that claimed Thor was as fast or even in the same realm of speed as Superman. Only that he's shown himself capable of reacting to attacks and characters that operate on similar levels as Superman.I never used the example. 😐
Good, then we are in agreement that Thor is a statue from Superman's point of view. Not a good position to be in when in battle.
Originally posted by Avlon
Who said anything about that?We all know he got a downgrade from RKT... what does this have to do with the debate exactly? He still doesn't have any real feats with it.
Your ridiculous "one shot Doomsday" assumption/scenario.
Good, then we are in agreement that Thor is a statue from Superman's point of view. Not a good position to be in when in battle.
You did.
"There hasn't been enough time to see if he kept some of those crazy old powers."
Nothing, but you made a statement about him receiving an upgrade.
Avlon, the more you pot the more obvious it becomes that you really have no knowledge on Thor. Your assessment may have been correct if we were to ignore the last 5 or 6 years of Thor's history.
Assumption? That's exactly what the comic depicted.
Luckily this isn't a race or Extreme Makeover Home edition.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this is still going.....that comic is worthless, and regular superman vs regular thor is a fight not regular superman vs thor with a skyfather's powers + hit own. let it die.
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I totally agree but you have to convince the superman fans, the ones that thinks that he is god. Hell I go as far to say that current thor might could stomp thanos, he did one shot destroyer that was controlled by an asgardian. Destroyer>>thanos.
Current Thor one shot superman just like captain marvel has done so numerous of times.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistWhat has the scan of Superman blitzing FTL have anything to do with my baseball analogy? That analogy was used to prove that SS can't necessarily duck, dodge a superman punch. The scan clearly shows Superman blitzing (which is specific and not inferred like SS traveling speed is).
Actually... I know it was you that used the baseball logic to try and prove something before. It was in the Surfer vs Superman thread.
I believe you said that just because hitters can hit a 90 mph fastball, that doesn't mean they can block, or dodge slower punches.
You're almost never right though.
Just an arrogant person who makes about as much sense as Spidey-Dude.And still... that doesn't prove you know anything of Odin.
Originally posted by Larceny
As Goober pointed out. This is not evidence of an FTL speed blitz. Translating this into fighting speeds is asinine.
Then I guess Thor has no evidence of being able to stop Superman's speed blitz either since he didn't specifically stop Gladiator's or anyone elses physical speedblitz attack.
Originally posted by h1a8Was that a serious question?
What has the scan of Superman blitzing FTL have anything to do with my baseball analogy? That analogy was used to prove that SS can't necessarily duck, dodge a superman punch. The scan clearly shows Superman blitzing (which is specific and not inferred like SS traveling speed is).I admit I'm wrong sometimes but more than 90% of the time I'm right.
Most here will say that they're right all the time. At least I have sense.
Sure thing. And who says they are right all the time? No one comes to memory. However, you just gave a high percentage...
You have nothing to measure it up to, other than your own arrogance.
Still haven't seen a single scan of Superman clearly blitzing at FTL speeds. And how many pages ago has it been asked by Darthgoober, now? Something like that might give credence to a substantial speed advantage over classic Thor.
Still doesn't make a lick of difference against Odinforce Thor.
Odinforce Thor 9/10 stomp.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0We already posted where he used it. All you had to do was look it up. Superman clearly ued it against a magician which Amped himself which scans were posted of. Superman also Speedblitz Imperiax while using Heat vision with the Speedblitz
Still haven't seen a single scan of Superman clearly blitzing at FTL speeds. And how many pages ago has it been asked by Darthgoober, now? Something like that might give credence to a substantial speed advantage over classic Thor.Still doesn't make a lick of difference against Odinforce Thor.
Odinforce Thor 9/10 stomp.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
We already posted where he used it. All you had to do was look it up. Superman clearly ued it against a magician which Amped himself which scans were posted of. Superman also Speedblitz Imperiax while using Heat vision with the Speedblitz
Again, not clear evidence that Superman can combat as super speeds. We've gone through this already, and we've gotten "OMG!!!! Superman builtz a chity in like freakkin secondz!!!!".
Originally posted by Larceny
Again, not clear evidence that Superman can combat as super speeds. We've gone through this already, and we've gotten "OMG!!!! Superman builtz a chity in like freakkin secondz!!!!".
Originally posted by Larceny
Again, not clear evidence that Superman can combat as super speeds. We've gone through this already, and we've gotten "OMG!!!! Superman builtz a chity in like freakkin secondz!!!!".
Originally posted by batdude123
Right... because it's totally reasonable to say that even though he can build an entire city at FTL speeds, he can't throw fists at that same speed. Am I right?Logic ftw.
Originally posted by TetragrammatonTo be fair he didn't actually build a city from scratch just spruced what looked like part of one that was already there 😛
As to the scan itself if Thor blocking Surfer's blurred attack is ambiguis because no numbers are given then so is Superman's city building feat. Basically he just did that while the Bizarro Zombies watched. How long dd that really take seconds, minutes, hours no time was given so I'm going to say it took him hours. 😛
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistGood stuff. Now I get it.You may have a point there. I give you credit Slipster. You earned my respect. I don't know why I didn't get the connection at first.
Was that a serious question?
I bet you think Superman is blitzing at lightspeed because the guy blocked his HV (which travels at lightspeed apparently)... but couldn't block his punches... right?
Which would go back to the baseball analogy you used in the same page I believe that you used those scans in originally...
Use your math, science, and every other talent you have to figure out the connection. It's not hard at all.
Anyway I feel when two people are debating they should first debate whether feats can infer other feats. Some people play both sides of the fence (As I might have) to make their characters win in the debate. I feel that not all feats can infer other feats (some can though). What do you think?
I'm not really arrogant. I was just being stupid and a little funny (purposely). I wasn't serious nor meant what I've said in any way. Everyone feels they are right most of the time. I feel this way because I have only found myself to be wrong (or proven wrong) rarely. I'm pretty sure that I make halfway decent points though.
Sure thing. And who says they are right all the time? No one comes to memory. However, you just gave a high percentage...
You have nothing to measure it up to, other than your own arrogance.