Thor vs Superman

Started by Phantom Zone453 pages
Phantom Zone Junior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
lol.

You call that an example? First off, hitting the ground isn't going to slow down Superman like it did Balder. Second, he didn't defeat him in combat, he plot deviced him. And do I really need to mention how Balder only swung once, then just stood there the rest of that entire non-fight?

He wasnt standing there. For starters before Thor hit the ground for the first time Balder was about to swing his sword.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor saw her telegraph and the blast wasn't light speed. Prove me wrong!

It was energy attack so I would expect the speed to be similar. Again even if you know somebody is going to do something you still need to have fast reflexes. Daredevil knows when people are about to shoot but if he had normal reflexes he would still get shot.

Originally posted by Juntai
Thor "KOing" Doomsday is extrapolating, and quite unprovable.

Are you serious?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He wasnt standing there. For starters before Thor hit the ground for the first time Balder was about to swing his sword.
Funny how the faster guy didn't get his attack off before the guy who admits he's slower did. Also funny that Thor refered to the pie as a missle, obviously indicating a more elaborate speech.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Creshosk
Funny how the faster guy didn't get his attack off before the guy who admits he's slower did.

Which indicates that Thor could till cope with his speed.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Also funny that Thor refered to the pie as a missle, obviously indicating a more elaborate speech.

.....I dont know about that. You refering to the lightspeed thing?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Are you serious?
Quite serious. Can you prove otherwise?

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
Quite serious. Can you prove otherwise?

Well where was he? Where did DD go?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Which indicates that Thor could till cope with his speed.
Or its an obvious oversite of elaborate hyperbole.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
.....I dont know about that. You refering to the lightspeed thing?
I'm still refering to the lightspeed pie blocking thing. as I really don't buy that that's how fast the pie was let to fly.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well where was he? Where did DD go?
Obviously you're replying to my question with more questions because you can't prove it. It's not something to prove on my end, I'm not the one extrapolating, claiming he was unconscious. Just as said in the post you replied to.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Creshosk
Or its an obvious oversite of elaborate hyperbole.
I'm still refering to the lightspeed pie blocking thing. as I really don't buy that that's how fast the pie was let to fly.

To tell you the truth considering that Thor can lift billions of tons and that pie weighed next nothing...maybe it was. Furthermore when Superman blitzes we dont always know how fast hes going but we know hes going very fast.

Originally posted by Juntai
Obviously you're replying to my question with more questions because you can't prove it. It's not something to prove on my end, I'm not the one extrapolating, claiming he was unconscious. Just as said in the post you replied to.

Thats exactly my point. If DD gets hit and hes not seen again what reasons are there for him not being seen?

1. He was scared.
2. He was fed up
3. He decided to go to the toliet

Considering that DD is a psycho the only logical conlcusion is that he was Koed.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Creshosk
Or its an obvious oversite of elaborate hyperbole.
I'm still refering to the lightspeed pie blocking thing. as I really don't buy that that's how fast the pie was let to fly.
True, nothing suggested the pie was lightspeed, just the block. Also was likely hyperbole as well.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Thats exactly my point. If DD gets hit and hes not seen again what reasons are there for him not being seen?

1. He was scared.
2. He was fed up
3. He decided to go to the toliet

Considering that DD is a psycho the only logical conlcusion is that he was Koed.

The point is, it's extrapolating. It needs to be proven he was KOed, not the other way.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
True, nothing suggested the pie was lightspeed, just the block. Also was likely hyperbole as well.

Maybe that Thor can lift billions of tons and the pie weighs next to nothing. 😐

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Maybe that Thor can lift billions of tons and the pie weighs next to nothing. 😐
Nothing in the scan said anything about the pie moving at lightspeed, only that it was blocked at lightspeed.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing in the scan said anything about the pie moving at lightspeed, only that it was blocked at lightspeed.

Ok fair enough.

Originally posted by Juntai
The point is, it's extrapolating. It needs to be proven he was KOed, not the other way.

Actually its not its common sense. DD is a psycho he only stops fighting if hes KOed or killed, therefore he must have been Koed.

Juntai Divine Vengeance
Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Actually its not its common sense. DD is a psycho he only stops fighting if hes KOed or killed, therefore he must have been Koed.
The point is, it's extrapolating.

You can try to reason it to yourself all you want, but you can't prove it.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
You can try to reason it to yourself all you want, but you can't prove it.

Right so basically that means unless something is proven 100 precent you dont act on it? Yes you do because you know that eventhough you are not 100 precent sure you are PROBABLY correct.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right so basically that means unless something is proven 100 precent you dont act on it?
Tell you what, I'll consider the idea of Doomsday getting KOed, that may or may not have happened OFF PANEL.

As soon as you consider the truth in Thor's claim that Superman is mightier than anyone in Asgard and the 9 worlds, that happened ON PANEL.

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
Tell you what, I'll consider the idea of Doomsday getting KOed, that may or may not have happened OFF PANEL.

As soon as you consider the truth in Thor's claim that Superman is mightier than anyone in Asgard and the 9 worlds, that happened ON PANEL.

Well no because thats obvoulsy not true. What so Superman is more powerful than Beyonder? Well im not sure where Beyonder is now but im pretty sure there are beings on marvel earth more powerful than Superman....Dreaming Celestial? So I wont consider it but I do know thats its common sense to think DD was Koed. Please answer the question.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right so basically that means unless something is proven 100 precent you dont act on it? Yes you do because you know that eventhough you are not 100 precent sure you are PROBABLY correct.
Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well no because thats obvoulsy not true. What so Superman is more powerful than Beyonder? Well im not sure where Beyonder is now but im pretty sure there are beings on marvel earth more powerful than Superman....Dreaming Celestial? So I wont consider it but I do know thats its common sense to think DD was Koed. Please answer the question.
Beyonder is dead, Celestials aren't of the 9 worlds.

And it's extrapolating, I already told you.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
To tell you the truth considering that Thor can lift billions of tons and that pie weighed next nothing...maybe it was.
Then you should be able to trow a piece of paper Extraemly fast shouldn't you? Go ahead and crumple up a piece of paper and see how fast you can throw it. Should be able to throw it what 90 mph in a comparitive ratio?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Furthermore when Superman blitzes we dont always know how fast hes going but we know hes going very fast.
We know what he's capable of, you know that flying to the moon of saturn in 4 minutes, flying from the sun in one, etc. Yeah yeah travel speed. Point is if he can travel that path at multiples of light speed then it shouldn't be too hard to travel the distance to thor even with a flying fist punch. Should he?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats exactly my point. If DD gets hit and hes not seen again what reasons are there for him not being seen?
That thor's still battling him off panel? I mean we only see one hit. But Thor didn't rush to Superman's aid did he? Superman keeps getting blasted until vision shows up to help him. Did thor Whack Doomsday and then go "Tis a fine time for a nap." or something?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
1. He was scared.
2. He was fed up
3. He decided to go to the toliet

Considering that DD is a psycho the only logical conlcusion is that he was Koed.

False dilemma. Where's thor go? We didn't see him agian, did he get KO'd too? Did he suddenly get scared? Did he get fed up? Did he decide to go to the toilet?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

But I am humored by you not taking on panel evidence seriously, while adding your own scenes into another where no evidence is given.

Also that you'll take Thor's word for it, that it was lightspeed, and not Thor's word, that he's mightier than any in the 9 worlds.