Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seriously, some people don't understand what 10/10 means in versus fights. It's a huge claim to make for someone, and it's usually only claim I only make for fights where it's inevocably a damn stomp. No one is their right mind should think that Superman gets that much of a majority against someone who has years of feats on his level.It's ignorance at it's best.
Can you lose to a statue? Even if the statue has good feats?
Originally posted by h1a8
Can you lose to a statue? Even if the statue has good feats?
So basically, you're implying that Superman is fighting to his absolute best of his ability while in character while Thor would be doing the same and in the process Superman completely overwhelms him in the process?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? Much as I may disagree with it, I could even understand how and why someone thinks that Superman gets a solid 6 or even 7 over Thor based on arguements. 10 out of 10 though? That's utter crap.
In all honesty many here argue as what will be shown in a comic.
And you are right Superman would not win 10/10 over Thor in a comic.
But this is a different animal. Superman based off what he is capable of is capable of knocking Thor out cold everytime. Superman can knock the hammer away anytime he want's too.
Out of respect I would say Superman 7/10.
Originally posted by h1a8
In all honesty many here argue as what will be shown in a comic.
And you are right Superman would not win 10/10 over Thor in a comic.But this is a different animal. Superman based off what he is capable of is capable of knocking Thor out cold everytime. Superman can knock the hammer away anytime he want's too.
Out of respect I would say Superman 7/10.
I understand the difference between forum fights and comic fights, and I'm sure alot of fellow posters do as well.
Based on what Thor is capable of, he can continiously lay down a barrage of omnidirectional blasts, and if Mjolnir somehow gets knocked aside, it flies back to his hand when he wills it to, probably catching Superman back in the process.
I mean, if you honestly and truly think that Superman takes it 10 out of 10 times, more power to you. I think that's a completely misguided view on the fight and how it would really go, but that's your opinion. Now if you think that in all honesty Superman wins 7 out of 10 times, that's something I don't find insanely unacceptable.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I understand the difference between forum fights and comic fights, and I'm sure alot of fellow posters do as well.Based on what Thor is capable of, he can continiously lay down a barrage of omnidirectional blasts, and if Mjolnir somehow gets knocked aside, it flies back to his hand when he wills it to, probably catching Superman back in the process.
I mean, if you honestly and truly think that Superman takes it 10 out of 10 times, more power to you. I think that's a completely misguided view on the fight and how it would really go, but that's your opinion. Now if you think that in all honesty Superman wins 7 out of 10 times, that's something I don't find insanely unacceptable.
The problem is with all of Thor's powers he really won't get a chance to use any (let alone think straight). Thor can't will the hammer anywhere if he is getting stunned. Superman is not going to just sit there and let Thor get his hammer back.
Superman 7/10
Originally posted by h1a8Why won't he? He'd beaten Gladiator before? Glads is basically superman for all intents and purposes. If you read comics which you don't you'd realize this. You are basically telling us how you want the fight to go in your scenario which has nothing based on anything from the comics themselves.
The problem is with all of Thor's powers he really won't get a chance to use any (let alone think straight). Thor can't will the hammer anywhere if he is getting stunned. Superman is not going to just sit there and let Thor get his hammer back.Superman 7/10
Only thing is, Thor has willed the hammer back before under circumstance of being wailed on. And it's been described multiple times as Mjolnir passing though virtually any obstacle or opposing force to return to its master. Superman doesn't have a viable powerset such as high end magic or magnetism to prevent Mjolnir from returning if Thor wants it back.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Only thing is, Thor has willed the hammer back before under circumstance of being wailed on. And it's been described multiple times as Mjolnir passing though virtually any obstacle or opposing force to return to its master. Superman doesn't have a viable powerset such as high end magic or magnetism to prevent Mjolnir from returning if Thor wants it back.
Thor has never willed his hammer back when being wailed on. In all instances Thor had time, opportunity, and clear mind when willing his hammer back.
Originally posted by h1a8from the top of my head i remember he willed it back while he was in mortal form, choking in space in the thanos w/ig fight.
Thor has never willed his hammer back when being wailed on. In all instances Thor had time, opportunity, and clear mind when willing his hammer back.
Originally posted by psycho gundamThat's when being thrown, not when getting it knocked away.
iirc, thanos opened a portal in front of mjolnir's flight path, it later opened up a portal of it's own to return to him.
I agree and know that Mjolnir can do this, still based off will though. The problem is that Thor won't be able to catch the hammer due to be stunned, even if we do entertain that Thor's hammer can come back when stunned.
Originally posted by h1a8Can you back up your claim?
choking and being stunned are two different things. Superman is not going to choke Thor (that would be funny).
Originally posted by h1a8If Superman is in the way he gets blasted by it though.
That's when being thrown, not when getting it knocked away.I agree and know that Mjolnir can do this, still based off will though. The problem is that Thor won't be able to catch the hammer due to be stunned, even if we do entertain that Thor's hammer can come back when stunned.