Thor vs Superman

Started by quanchi112453 pages
quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by h1a8
A bullet is to fast for the eye to follow, Spider-man is, Wolverine has been, etc.

No one is disputing that Thor has superspeed or super reflexes. He just don't have enough of them to prevent himself from being comboed to ko by a SUPERMAN.

Please, give us a few examples of Superman's combo to ko. If you can't then it's a fantasy of yours.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The slimmest possible. Thor's magic advantage and Superman's speed advantage make this a very good fight but I'm a Superman fan so I say Supes ftw. 😛
To each his own I guess. I just don't see Superman beating him based on Thor being bloodlusted and not holding back.
Originally posted by Juntai
Without getting into the vs Thor part of the debate, this is a tough call to make given the forum rules like this;

[b]For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Certainly applies to a ridiculous amount of Superman's showings as well, since we know he can and does these things. Particularly against non-speedsters. [/B]

It's still a rare tactic like say Thor's godblast. Both still have these tactics in their arsenals but I doubt either side argue speed or Thor's godblast determining the majority.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Back in the day Supes would have beaten Thor. But after recent fights Thor can take faster than sound punches long enough to initiate a kill shot which in Supes case will definitely be a kill shot.

Spire Senior Member
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
So in others words, his consistently displayed combat speed is negated because Mongoose was beat by him and he got someone who was too fast for Spidey? Even in your failed attempts at using sarcasm do you display your ignorance, poor grasp of the english language and failing reading skills. Awesome!

...and Daredevil, both Mongoose encounters, Gamora and Wolverine.

Also, it wasn't sarcasm.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

thor had mongoose dead to rights before releasing him, then beat him down after he acted all squeirrely

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by the ninjak
Back in the day Supes would have beaten Thor. But after recent fights Thor can take faster than sound punches long enough to initiate a kill shot which in Supes case will definitely be a kill shot.

Honestly?

Classic Thor vs. Superman is an even worse match up for Superman. Thor displayed a wider array of powers and abilities (multiple times as to avoid single use and therefore not viable tactics) that would mess up Clark.

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by Spire
...and Daredevil, both Mongoose encounters, Gamora and Wolverine.

Woops, couple of problems there. Mongoose, Gamora and Wolverine were all tagged! And unfortunately the online 5 pages long vs comics are not admissable as evidence on the forum. Hot damn, those pesky rules!

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Spire
...and Daredevil, both Mongoose encounters, Gamora and Wolverine.

Also, it wasn't sarcasm.

And against all those opponents, Thor overwhelmed them utterly with his power.

Guess you're citing them for the proposition that speed vs Thor is useless. Thus Thor overwhelms Supes with power. *shrug*

Hey, to each his own.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Spire
...and Daredevil, both Mongoose encounters, Gamora and Wolverine.

Also, it wasn't sarcasm.

Again, those aren't Thor's top speed/reaction feats so what's your point?

I guess this means Superman's low showings/lower speed feats etc. can be brought into the equation since you seem so intent on doing the same to Thor.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

I think it's funny because judging from the last few pages, most of the people arguing for Thor have posted scans proving his various skills and abilities that others have dismissed or claimed he didn't have whereas some of the Superman supporters either resort to PIS fueled scans, lowballing Thor, or generally dodge the issues at hand.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, those aren't Thor's top speed/reaction feats so what's your point?

I guess this means Superman's low showings/lower speed feats etc. can be brought into the equation since you seem so intent on doing the same to Thor.

Superman isn't faster than a bullet if we go by those. "Oh noez!"

Kris Blaze Restricted

I also wonder why people insist on using incidents where Thor is successful in hitting his opponents. Seems like a poor tactic to try and display his poor speed by showing incidents where he lands hits on people who try to blitz him.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ Psst. They're secretly trying to argue for Thor. Don't tell anyone!

Badabing Gym rat

I say it's a tie...sneer

JakeTheBank Return of the King

It's messed up cause I give Superman credit where credit is due, and as much as I prefer Thor's chances over Superman in a fight, I don't spout bullshit like "Thor omniblasts Superman ftw" or "He drains him of his life force" or "Thor Godblasts him" or "Thor Anti-Forces him into a red sun".

And yet, I keep hearing this same old "combo to ko" insanity.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I also wonder why people insist on using incidents where Thor is successful in hitting his opponents. Seems like a poor tactic to try and display his poor speed by showing incidents where he lands hits on people who try to blitz him.
which opponents have legitimately speedblitzed thor? ( all I remember is gladiator, and he was successful)

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Translation: "I was being facetious, which nobody here recognized as being purely facetious (as everybody is now rebutting the use of it) but hey, forgive me for it."

On that, next time don't be facetious.

Quit acting like you were arguing with me when the only thing you were doing was arguing past me because you didn't bother reading the context behind my statement and who, or what, I was responding to, k?

Nobody being. . .you? You're the only one that responded to me, because you were jumping at a chance to attack me in some form. lol.

I quoted the statement I was arguing of yours, presented an opposing view, you defended vehemently for a whole page, and then finally concluded that what I quoted wasn't your stance on what you believe would happen. If that's arguing past you- cool.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ Try looking at how many people reacted negatively when Mongoose was mentioned, k? Being oblivious is excusable... just not when I actually point it out to you.

It is "cool." Because you didn't bother to understand who, or what I was responding to and didn't take the hint over a few pages that you were posting utterly inapposite arguments- cool. 👆

Originally posted by Badabing
I say it's a tie...sneer
You contend with the combo to ko principle. Tread lightly, Badabing... tread lightly. uhuh

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Starscream M
which opponents have legitimately speedblitzed thor? ( all I remember is gladiator, and he was successful)

This is why I'm on the fence about your participation as a judge. You don't read shit properly uhuh

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I also wonder why people insist on using incidents where Thor is successful in hitting his opponents. Seems like a poor tactic to try and display his poor speed by showing incidents where he lands hits on people who try to blitz him.

By -reading- my post we learn that I reference to incidents where peolpe have attempted to speedblitz him. This is confirmed by my use of the word "try" as it stands in conjunction with "lands hits on". Basically, I am saying that Thor hit someone who was not successful in blitzing him. This is what "lands hits on people who try blitz him" mean. Now, when you reply by asking which opponents legitimately speedblitzed him, you do not only completely miss the point, but bring up someone that is of no relevance. You see, your comment has nothing to do with mine.

Spire, being a super-genius, brought up incidents where Thor hit people who attempted to overcome him using their speed. Thus, he only brought up failed blitzes. You're the only one who brought up the successful blitz. Brought on by a future Gladiator using a distraction in conjunction with his own speed.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Try looking at how many people reacted negatively when Mongoose was mentioned, k? Being oblivious is excusable... just not when I actually point it out to you.

It is. Because you didn't bother to understand who, or what I was responding to and didn't take the hint over a few pages that you were posting utterly inapposite arguments- cool. 👆You contend with the combo to ko principle.


They weren't responding to me, but the guy that mentioned it above me, being why they started quoting. I posted the scans and the shifty smiley simply because I was playing devils advocate. You jumped at the chance to attack me.

I wouldn't really entertain debating H1 as much as I don't entertain debating Quanchi or Carver.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Thor has obviously had an upgrade recently. Supes has a weakness to magic on a level that one strike from Thor would hurt like anyone normal person..... Jeez loki would just turn him into a frog ....................................SUPERFROG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!