Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Woops, couple of problems there. Mongoose, Gamora and Wolverine were all tagged! And unfortunately the online 5 pages long vs comics are not admissable as evidence on the forum. Hot damn, those pesky rules!
👆 sidestep.
It's not about "Did Thor hit them?" or "Did Thor win?"
Originally posted by JuntaiLook again. And you jumped at the chance to be facetious (and beforehand to intercede in my rebuttal of h1a8's statements in an utterly inapposite manner). Your prerogative. Free country.
They weren't responding to me, but the guy that mentioned it above me, being why they started quoting. I posted the scans and the shifty smiley simply because I was playing devils advocate. You jumped at the chance to attack me.I wouldn't really entertain debating H1 as much as I don't entertain debating Quanchi or Carver.
"Debating" does presume engaging in a thoughtful discourse. At best, I was refuting h1a8. Tomato, tomatoe.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankExactly.
I think it's funny because judging from the last few pages, most of the people arguing for Thor have posted scans proving his various skills and abilities that others have dismissed or claimed he didn't have whereas some of the Superman supporters either resort to PIS fueled scans, lowballing Thor, or generally dodge the issues at hand.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Well, he wasn't fast enough to stop all the bullets being fired simultaneously in multiple directions. I am only playing by Spire's rules who seems intent on attacking low feats for Thor. You know I can play the low balling game. I made it famous in the first place. I don't usually try to go there anymore until someone draws first blood.
Superman isn't faster than a bullet if we go by those. "Oh noez!"
Originally posted by Starscream MHow was he successful?
which opponents have legitimately speedblitzed thor? ( all I remember is gladiator, and he was successful)
Originally posted by OneDumbG0ohno
^ Try looking at how many people reacted negatively when Mongoose was mentioned, k? Being oblivious is excusable... just not when I actually point it out to you.It is "cool." Because you didn't bother to understand who, or what I was responding to and didn't take the hint over a few pages that you were posting utterly inapposite arguments- cool. 👆You contend with the combo to ko principle. Tread lightly, Badabing... tread lightly. uhuh
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I think a problem with this thread and others is the following:
Some members post as if what they would do if they were the character or had the powerset that character did instead of debating on what the character itself would do. I understand that the forum setting is different from a comic book setting, but character/personality is still a factor here. Characters can function at their very best while still doing so in character. Some people can't understand that, though.
Originally posted by Kris Blazemy mistake....I meant to say which opponents legitimately TRIED to speedblitz thor
This is why I'm on the fence about your participation as a judge. You don't read shit properly uhuhBy -reading- my post we learn that I reference to incidents where peolpe have attempted to speedblitz him. This is confirmed by my use of the word "try" as it stands in conjunction with "lands hits on". Basically, I am saying that Thor hit someone who was not successful in blitzing him. This is what "lands hits on people who try blitz him" mean. Now, when you reply by asking which opponents legitimately speedblitzed him, you do not only completely miss the point, but bring up someone that is of no relevance. You see, your comment has nothing to do with mine.
Spire, being a super-genius, brought up incidents where Thor hit people who attempted to overcome him using their speed. Thus, he only brought up failed blitzes. You're the only one who brought up the successful blitz. Brought on by a future Gladiator using a distraction in conjunction with his own speed.
my point was, that out of the one incident where there was a legitimate attempt at speedblitzing thor, it worked.
someone merely being fast and attacking thor would not equal an attempt to speedblitz him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
my mistake....I meant to say which opponents legitimately TRIED to speedblitz thormy point was, that out of the one incident where there was a legitimate attempt at speedblitzing thor, it worked.
someone merely being fast and attacking thor would not equal an attempt to speedblitz him.
It was not the first time, it was only moderately successful and it was only successful due to a restriction that does not apply to Thor now.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthats a interesting point
I think a problem with this thread and others is the following:Some members post as if what they would do if they were the character or had the powerset that character did instead of debating on what the character itself would do. I understand that the forum setting is different from a comic book setting, but character/personality is still a factor here. Characters can function at their very best while still doing so in character. Some people can't understand that, though.
ask yourself:
how many times have thor fought to his max potential?
how many times have Superman fought to his max potential?
they're not equal in that respect.
Originally posted by Kris Blazewolverine could try to overwhelm thor with his speed...but it would not be a speedblitz. there's a threshold of speed you have to attain before it becomes a legit speedblitz. Not many characters can perform legit speedblitzes...superman, flash come to mind.
Trying to overwhelm someone with your speed is an attempt at blitzing them. Need I educate you on what "blitz" actually stems from and so on? 😐It was not the first time, it was only moderately successful and it was only successful due to a restriction that does not apply to Thor now.
Thor has a slugger's heart. Thing is, he almost always ends up using his mystic abilities after slugging it out first. Can Superman KO Thor before he gets all "godly"? I'm pretty sure Supes can. He definitely has the power and speed to do so. Can Thor survive a physical blitz before he starts whipping out his magic? He's definitely shown tremendous durability in the past.
I'm going with Thor 6.5/10
Originally posted by Starscream MHe threw something at Thor, thor felt an obligation to protect the innocents involved all while he was still in shock at Glads' cold actions towards him.
he overwhelmed thor with his speed.
When he came back into the fight and quit holding back he beat Glads very quickly.
Originally posted by psycho gundamYes, when I lost my hard drive I asked batdude to give me a little more time. He said no problem. It will still occur and won't be too far off.
stray thought: is the quan/batdude battlezone still happening?
Originally posted by Starscream M
wolverine could try to overwhelm thor with his speed...but it would not be a speedblitz. there's a threshold of speed you have to attain before it becomes a legit speedblitz. Not many characters can perform legit speedblitzes...superman, flash come to mind.
Super-ultra-mega wrong.
It would be an attempted, and failed as we saw, speedblitz by Wolverine. A regular human can speedblitz another one. It happens many times in MMA fights and so on.