Thor vs Superman

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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by h1a8
Just because an entry is in a handbook doesn't mean it is false.
If someone offers evidence from a handbook then it is valid as long as it doesn't contradict comic evidence.

Where do you think we even get the term 'class 100' from?

Lastly,
If we are not to use real science either or assume writers didn't know how much stuff weighs and how much force it takes to accomplish a feat then who's to say that Thor, Hulk, etc. are class 100 beings?

You don't read the comics though you go entirely based on handbook entries. That's why you are usually wrong.
Originally posted by Starscream M
You said BRB BECOMES Thor. That's more than just having his physical properties.
He has the power of Thor, but he isn't Thor. Thor has always been the best thunder god out there. It's his birthright and he has a lot more experience and impressive combat showings/power than any other thunder god.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'm glad you're not judging any more tourney matches.
Who said he's not allowed to anymore?

Also, as promised:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'll just post the scans later.

And the focus on the Gardener fight is directly relevant to the original inquiry. Thor had access to the Odinpower before then. He didn't completely cut himself off from it.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Like I said, Thor was pissed.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

I'm glad you're not judging any more tourney matches.

What do you mean?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like I said, Thor was pissed.
A little bit more than that can be discerned from the what's said:

"Impossible! Thor hath beaten Ulik before -- but ne'er so quickly!"

"As though he's more powerful -- than e'er before!"

"-- is it as I fear?"

"Worse. With Odin's passing, the Odinforce slowly is becoming Thor's to command."

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A little bit more than that can be discerned from the what's said:

"Impossible! Thor hath beaten Ulik before -- but ne'er so quickly!"

"As though he's more powerful -- than e'er before!"

"-- is it as I fear?"

"Worse. With Odin's passing, the Odinforce slowly is becoming Thor's to command."

Yeah, it's obvious it was due to the odinpower. That's the impression most would come to anyways or so I would think.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A little bit more than that can be discerned from the what's said:

"Impossible! Thor hath beaten Ulik before -- but ne'er so quickly!"

"As though he's more powerful -- than e'er before!"

"-- is it as I fear?"

"Worse. With Odin's passing, the Odinforce slowly is becoming Thor's to command."


Yes, the trolls sure have a keen eye for ability.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor%20comics/Thor139-13.jpg

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ And that applies to Orikal how?

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ And that applies to Orikal how?

Thor had the Odinforce obviously.

I just don't think the transformation had begun yet. Beating Ulik quickly is something classic Thor is more than capable of, given his current rage-mode at the time.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ So be it. But Orikal seems to disagree and there are other instances past this before his encounter with the Gardener entity.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ So be it. But Orikal seems to disagree and there are other instances past this before his encounter with the Gardener entity.

Slowly becoming his.

Slow process.

Orikal was also wrong when he said that Odin did not live in any realm.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thor had the Odinforce obviously.

I just don't think the transformation had begun yet. Beating Ulik quickly is something classic Thor is more than capable of, given his current rage-mode at the time.

He's caopable of it but the scene is clearly showing us he's more powerful because of the odinforce.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Slowly becoming his.

Slow process.

Orikal was also wrong when he said that Odin did not live in any realm.

Which necessarily presumes it was Thor's.

See above.

Odin wasn't alive. So Orikal wasn't wrong.

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Which necessarily presumes it was Thor's.

See above.

Odin wasn't alive. So Orikal wasn't wrong.


Any realm?

Thor v3 just proved otherwise. He exists somewhere.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ Exist =/= live.

tideoftime Senior Member

Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Regular Thor gets owned by Superman.

Special edition, mail away with 4 UPC's, Odinforce Thor owns Superman.

There we go, now this doesn't have to turn into a thread with 45 pages about pure nothingness.

And 5 1/2 years later...

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
You see h1, this is where we always tend to bump heads.

I agree, he flew THROUGH saturn moon but thats not a moon or planet destroying feat, thats just superman flying through a moon which is basically a durability feat.

Superman destroying the shadow moon? 1st thing, the moon had the same mass as earth moon; it was an identical copy. 2nd, Superman had to accelerate his speed in order to do it (couldnt do it under his own strength). 3rd, he almost died from that feat that you keep bringing up.

Superman can punch and fly at the same time. It is still punching power. Either the shadow moon was far more durable than a normal moon or it was PIS since Superman busted through and split moons before without affect and even claimed to destroy planets with his blows.

I showed you binary hittting rogue into space. Hell, I can post a scan of gorgon almost duplicating the same feat (when he kicked wolverine) and gorgon (black bolts gorgon) is a class 90.
Show me them. I missed them. But what you understand is what Superman did exceeds merely hitting a normal being into space by an astronomical amount. He hit a being weighing 10x more so fast that AFTER entering space Lobo still had enough speed to go through several very thick and more durable than steel alien ship walls like tissue paper. I've found a lower estimate for the feat and it exceeds even hitting Lobo to the moon.

You must didnt read the comic that featured E2 Superman? That wasnt Supes that was altering reality; I dont want to ruin it for you but I'm going to say that someone very smart had a part in the altering reality feat. It'll be good for you to buy the comic to find out who but E2 Superman and mainstream Superman fight did nothing but destroy a building.
I believe I have the comic. Didn't read the whole thing but only that incident as well as a few others. I will read the whole thing and get back with you.

Cyclops has claimed that he can destroy planets with his blast. Do you believe him. Gladiator has been called the most powerful being in the universe. Do you believe that?

Its called hyperbole.

I agree. But if someone claim something that they already SHOWED, or a similar or even harder feat then it is the truth. Superman has feats that shows he can lift at least 50 Earth weights. It takes more force to move a planet at considerably more speed than to destroy it. But hyperbole is not hyperbole if it can be backed up.

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JakeTheBank Return of the King

Thor for a slight majority.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Thor one shots him with some red lightning.