Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by carver9
Why not?

Savage Hulk ripped through secondary Adamantium like tissue paper and Current Hulk is significantly stronger than him. Then lets not include the fact that Hulk recently crushed someones head that tanked attacks from both Surfer AND Merged Hulk... he 2 paneled him. Didnt Savage Hulk rip through the Destroyer armor before or was that a "what if"? Cant remember. I dont think King Thor could destroy a planet with his foot or sink the eastern seaboard just by taking a normal step.

Only confrontation between Hulk/DA that I can think of is Hulk fighting Maestro after he'd animated the armor. We might be talking about two different instances, though.

Vibranium/steel > secondary adamantium. That fact that Cap's shield's only been affected by out of this world powers (Thanos + IG, Owen Reece's matter manip, and Doom + Beyonder's power) speaks to how strong Thor was at that point. That's a level that I can't say Hulk should be able to match at this point, particularly given the fact that he couldn't even phase Zeus.

Given what King Thor was able to do, I don't see why he couldn't replicate Hulk's feats. He's got so damn impressive battle feats, just not the non-battle ones that writers like to use to fluff characters.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Why dont u answer this for me? all characters who have received a hammer(juggernaut, titania, grey gargoyle, etc..) have had their abilities amped to a large extent. The thing gained a huge amount of power, grey gargoyle, all of them are above what they were without the hammers. But u think the hulk is somehow weaker? ur logic is astounding.

YOU never particularly cared about feats my friend. 🙂 hyperbole is more than enough to satisfy you. But now that thor is beating on a hulk who clrealy recieved some form of power increase like the others ur asking for fts? lol. If hulk wins then yeah feel free to pm the hell out of me. When he loses feel free to hide behind excuses.

If Hulk is unable to amp, no matter what type of artifact he has, then he ISNT Hulk. I have seen nothing from this Hulk that physically puts him even on Savage Hulk level.

Of course Grey Gargoyle and the others received amps but without amping his strength, Hulk isnt Hulk. That is what makes Hulk, his amping abilities that increase his strength AND his durability. I am not seeing any of that from this version of Hulk. Current Hulk is ripping through top tiers like candy... I cant tell you what that Hulk is capable of.

It was a nice showing of Thor killing thing though (even though it was a sneak attack).

I dont hide behind hyperbole statements because if that was the case, Gladiator would be>>>>>>everyone in Marvel since he have a hyperbole statement claiming him as the most powerful being in the universe.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Only confrontation between Hulk/DA that I can think of is Hulk fighting Maestro after he'd animated the armor. We might be talking about two different instances, though.

Vibranium/steel > secondary adamantium. That fact that Cap's shield's only been affected by out of this world powers (Thanos + IG, Owen Reece's matter manip, and Doom + Beyonder's power) speaks to how strong Thor was at that point. That's a level that I can't say Hulk should be able to match at this point, particularly given the fact that he couldn't even phase Zeus.

Given what King Thor was able to do, I don't see why he couldn't replicate Hulk's feats. He's got so damn impressive battle feats, just not the non-battle ones that writers like to use to fluff characters.

Edit: i stand corrected. My apologies carver 😉

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt say he was going to outright kill him. To me it sound as if Thor is giving him an option to get the hell on or die.

Because we all know what a killer Space Jesus is?

Thor will kick around friends if he has to, but since when does he kill them? He didn't even want to kill Voidtry after he killed his own brother and brought his home down around his ears..

Originally posted by Harbinger
Only confrontation between Hulk/DA that I can think of is Hulk fighting Maestro after he'd animated the armor. We might be talking about two different instances, though.

Vibranium/steel > secondary adamantium. That fact that Cap's shield's only been affected by out of this world powers (Thanos + IG, Owen Reece's matter manip, and Doom + Beyonder's power) speaks to how strong Thor was at that point. That's a level that I can't say Hulk should be able to match at this point, particularly given the fact that he couldn't even phase Zeus.

Given what King Thor was able to do, I don't see why he couldn't replicate Hulk's feats. He's got so damn impressive battle feats, just not the non-battle ones that writers like to use to fluff characters.

Naah, I'm talking about Savage Hulk fight against the Destroyer. They fought twice to my knowledge.

I agree that Vibranium is more durable than secondary adamantium but you missed my point.

He did phase Zeus. After that he just couldnt land a lick on Zeus. Zeus H2H skills has no comparison.

Seeing what current Hulk can do, I dont see why Hulk couldnt replicate KT fts. It goes both ways.

Originally posted by Damborgson
dont waste ur time. Once u being to put logic into the situation he'l just ignore u.

Edit: i stand corrected. My apologies carver 😉

I have never ignored any of your posts.

Originally posted by carver9
If Hulk is unable to amp, no matter what type of artifact he has, then he ISNT Hulk. I have seen nothing from this Hulk that physically puts him even on Savage Hulk level.

Of course Grey Gargoyle and the others received amps but without amping his strength, Hulk isnt Hulk. That is what makes Hulk, his amping abilities that increase his strength AND his durability. I am not seeing any of that from this version of Hulk. Current Hulk is ripping through top tiers like candy... I cant tell you what that Hulk is capable of.

It was a nice showing of Thor killing thing though (even though it was a sneak attack).

I dont hide behind hyperbole statements because if that was the case, Gladiator would be>>>>>>everyone in Marvel since he have a hyperbole statement claiming him as the most powerful being in the universe.

Like i said until theres some concrete proof that says he cant amp an assumption that he cant is just an excuse for him getting his a%& handed to him. U sure cant. Nothing he has done puts him on this low skyfather level that u have him at.

I actually hope they make it so the thing is revived or something. To soon to lose another FF4 member. That was just Thor using his powers wisely for once. Like surfer using his board on Thor and BRB.

Well of course u wouldnt pick THAT hyperbole statement. That would put him above hulk. 🙂 Im talking about "wendigo and bibeast are 100 times stronger" or whatever u said. Clearly hyperbole yet u say theres no reason to doubt it. yet there feats dont support it. Now we see a hulk that clearly got a huge power increase to his abilities like the other worthy did but ur asking for feats to prove it? doesnt add up. Ur just trying to find an excuse for hulk when/if he gets beaten to death.

its late. we can continue this tomorrow. or just PM or whatever. or just end it. dont really care.

Originally posted by carver9
I have never ignored any of your posts.

Yah, my problem with Current Thor isn't his showings (except for Angrir). It's the way he talks and treats friends.

Like I said, Thor would have NEVER killed Ben. And where is all the "Thor-speak" at? lol.

Instead of "Silver Bastard", it should be "Thou hadst interfered long enough, Surfer! Flee or face the Son of Odin!"...I miss old Thor 🙁

Originally posted by Damborgson
You have nothing that says he cant. Until stated otherwise its obvious that that being one of his powers is still there. If anything it was increased.

Like i said until theres some concrete proof that says he cant amp an assumption that he cant is just an excuse for him getting his a%& handed to him. U sure cant. Nothing he has done puts him on this low skyfather level that u have him at.

I actually hope they make it so the thing is revived or something. To soon to lose another FF4 member. That was just Thor using his powers wisely for once. Like surfer using his board on Thor and BRB.

Well of course u wouldnt pick THAT hyperbole statement. That would put him above hulk. 🙂 Im talking about "wendigo and bibeast are 100 times stronger" or whatever u said. Clearly hyperbole yet u say theres no reason to doubt it. yet there feats dont support it. Now we see a hulk that clearly got a huge power increase to his abilities like the other worthy did but ur asking for feats to prove it? doesnt add up. Ur just trying to find an excuse for hulk when/if he gets beaten to death.

its late. we can continue this tomorrow. or just PM or whatever. or just end it. dont really care.

I'm not seeing an amp at all from this version of Hulk. If Thor beats him... more power to him. Doesnt make sense though. Thor has had trouble and actually have a loss on panel against Savage Hulk but yet he is pounding on this version of Hulk and you dont see anything wrong with that? Come on buddy. HULK has ALWAYS been a fight for Thor, no matter how pissed he was and Thor failed at dropping him but we have this version of Hulk not even swinging his fist. Common sense to me.

I like both Gladiator and Hulk AND Thor... I see no reason on hiding any hyperbole statements from either if I was the one to hold on to statements like you say I do.

Bi- Beast and Wendigo received an amp which was shown on panel. Bi- Beast stated how powerful the amp made him. They dont have to toss planets to prove that they are amped... statements is good enough SOMETIMES when we cant find any other source and when the characters were only used during one run. Kind of like Warrior Madness Thor. Would we have ever known what strength level Warrior Madness takes you at without a STATEMENT telling us what levels it took an Asgardian at. Just like we would have never known how strong Kurse was without a STATEMENT telling us how much more stronger he was than Thor.

hehe cant believe this thread is still going. Anyhow thor ftw.

Harbringer... here is your scan involving Hulk strength vs Zeus face.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863061/Incredible_Hulks_622_007.jpg.html

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman wins.

111 > 102. 😈

the reason supes is ahead is casue this thread is ancient old, and the longer the thread the better the chance supes has to get more votes =).

its common knowledge that thor beats supes on theses boards 😄

Originally posted by zeel
the reason supes is ahead is casue this thread is ancient old, and the longer the thread the better the chance supes has to get more votes =).

its common knowledge that thor beats supes on theses boards 😄

Superman just got another vote. 😛

Thor did not trounce surfer. Jeez its amazing how people can allow there own biased perceptions completely skew what they read on panel. The fight hasn't really even gotten heated yet.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Thor did not trounce surfer. Jeez its amazing how people can allow there own biased perceptions completely skew what they read on panel. The fight hasn't really even gotten heated yet.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Thor did not trounce surfer. Jeez its amazing how people can allow there own biased perceptions completely skew what they read on panel. The fight hasn't really even gotten heated yet.

Hurts Big G and Surfer

Where does he hurt Surfer? It looks like Surfer charges him as he's dazed from colliding with Galactus.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hurts Big G and Surfer

Where does he hurt Surfer? It looks like Surfer charges him as he's dazed from colliding with Galactus.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Thor did not trounce surfer. Jeez its amazing how people can allow there own biased perceptions completely skew what they read on panel. The fight hasn't really even gotten heated yet.