Thor vs Superman

Started by vince_slice453 pages

Current fight between Surfer and Thor doesn't mean much, since Surfer is being a pacifist again and the only thing he's doing is talking to Thor. Not much has happened anyways. Surfer Blitzes Thor and slams him into mars, and then Thor hammer strikes him.

The difference is as far as I can tell is Surfer is being a pacifist, while Thor is getting blood lusted. The fight should be better judged next issue when Surfer actually decides to fight back, instead of reason.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Trounce, maybe not, but embarrass yes.
Blazes past Surfer like he's a statue
Surfer Watches helplessly
Hurts Big G and Surfer

Begging
Gives Norinn the business

Seriously get real with these descriptions, they wre full of so much leading and exxageration its not even funny. Heck I wouldn't even expect this from Rage.

- In the first scan thor zooms right past a surfer who thought Thor was charging for him....that's all. Thor was apparently moving to a different target than what surfer thought and it caught him off guard. This has absolutely no relation to the fight, no relation to the question of superiority between Thor and surfer, and is not an embarrassment in any sense of the word. Seriously going by this loose definition of the word, I might as well go and say Surfer embarrassed thor when he hit him with his board on earth and thor couldnt react cause he was a statue to the board...smh

- second scan is just the follow up to surfer being caught off guard about the target...still has nothing to do with the fight, superiority of thor over surfer, and sure as he'll doesn't prove that current Thor is at some mythical new power level as fools like carver seem to be suggesting.

- in that scan he hurt the big g not surfer. Surfer charged him and slammed him into the ground so hard he hurt himself." Thor was helpless" to stop surfer from charging him against his will cause he was a statue to surfers board blitz....see how that works both ways?

- Surfer is not begging, he is trying to reason with Thor like he does with pretty much everybody. This is not a new characteristic of surfer. Him trying to reason with his opponents ( many times to his own detriment) is old news. He did against beta Ray bill, hulk many times, wonder man etc

- the final scan is the only scan where Thor does anything and hits surfer when surfer is busyn rying to talk to him. The last scan is really the only scan that could qualify as embarrassing, but surfer has been hit enough times during his attempts to talk his opponents out of fighting for it not to really be that damaging anymore. T
he fight hasn't even really started up yet and hopefully it will next issue.

Let's wait for that to happen and not beginn projecting things onto the scans that aren't really there.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Seriously get real with these descriptions, they wre full of so much leading and exxageration its not even funny. Heck I wouldn't even expect this from Rage.

- In the first scan thor zooms right past a surfer who thought Thor was charging for him....that's all. Thor was apparently moving to a different target than what surfer thought and it caught him off guard. This has absolutely no relation to the fight, no relation to the question of superiority between Thor and surfer, and is not an embarrassment in any sense of the word. Seriously going by this loose definition of the word, I might as well go and say Surfer embarrassed thor when he hit him with his board on earth and thor couldnt react cause he was a statue to the board...smh

- second scan is just the follow up to surfer being caught off guard about the target...still has nothing to do with the fight, superiority of thor over surfer, and sure as he'll doesn't prove that current Thor is at some mythical new power level as fools like carver seem to be suggesting.

- in that scan he hurt the big g not surfer. Surfer charged him and slammed him into the ground so hard he hurt himself." Thor was helpless" to stop surfer from charging him against his will cause he was a statue to surfers board blitz....see how that works both ways?

- Surfer is not begging, he is trying to reason with Thor like he does with pretty much everybody. This is not a new characteristic of surfer. Him trying to reason with his opponents ( many times to his own detriment) is old news. He did against beta Ray bill, hulk many times, wonder man etc

- the final scan is the only scan where Thor does anything and hits surfer when surfer is busyn rying to talk to him. The last scan is really the only scan that could qualify as embarrassing, but surfer has been hit enough times during his attempts to talk his opponents out of fighting for it not to really be that damaging anymore. T
he fight hasn't even really started up yet and hopefully it will next issue.

Let's wait for that to happen and not beginn projecting things onto the scans that aren't really there.

Good points.

And thinking about it, Bill could have replicated every single "feat" Thor did, as long as Surfer isn't really attacking him.. Yes, including hurting Galactus, as he has an equivalent feat in Stormbringer: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill, only he caused less damage because he didn't full stop charge Big G, but hit him with a conventional hammer swing that dented his helmet.

Thor is not bloodlusted. That is just Matt Fraction's horrible portrayal of his character.

Also, I'm glad Surfer is apparently going to fight back. Watching him being totally humiliated wasn't fun, a fight will be better.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not seeing an amp at all from this version of Hulk. If Thor beats him... more power to him. Doesnt make sense though. Thor has had trouble and actually have a loss on panel against Savage Hulk but yet he is pounding on this version of Hulk and you dont see anything wrong with that? Come on buddy. HULK has ALWAYS been a fight for Thor, no matter how pissed he was and Thor failed at dropping him but we have this version of Hulk not even swinging his fist. Common sense to me.

I like both Gladiator and Hulk AND Thor... I see no reason on hiding any hyperbole statements from either if I was the one to hold on to statements like you say I do.

Bi- Beast and Wendigo received an amp which was shown on panel. Bi- Beast stated how powerful the amp made him. They dont have to toss planets to prove that they are amped... statements is good enough SOMETIMES when we cant find any other source and when the characters were only used during one run. Kind of like Warrior Madness Thor. Would we have ever known what strength level Warrior Madness takes you at without a STATEMENT telling us what levels it took an Asgardian at. Just like we would have never known how strong Kurse was without a STATEMENT telling us how much more stronger he was than Thor.

Common sense should tell you otherwise. If all the other worthy receive an amp and their powers are magnified so are hulks. Thor has trouble with savage when he stoops down to hulk's level. Dont even pretend that im not right. Thor used a single bolt of lighting to drop hulk. he can do that whenever he wants. This time around he's just cutting loose, using lighting already on his hammer, hitting hulk like he's supposed 2. If he's not swinging his fist its because he's being battered. Hulk's shown that problem before that if u hit him to hard to fast he doesnt take it as well like when he has time to recover. There nothing crazy about this.

Yeah I know u like Thor. But u clearly like hulk more. Thats not a problem cuz we all have our favorites but you overestimate hulk. Hulk is not low skyfather lol. There is no evidence of this. The beating from Zeus should be enough to tell u.

Thats very different. Kurse demonstrated his superior strength to Thor's. When Thor put on the belt of power the fight evened again. Bi-beast and wendigo were clearly not at that level. They were pathetic. We've never seen true warrior madness so until proven otherwise thats whats supposed to happen. Thats why we can assume that its true. The 100X stronger thing for wendigo and bi-beast is obviously bull.

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So, if I was writing a Superman/Thor crossover..

Assuming a four issue format, the first issue I'd have Thor knock out Superman with one punch. The second issue, I'd have Thor throw his hammer at Supes, Supes race around for three or four panels keeping ahead of it, and leading it back to Thor having him get KOed with his own hammer.. Third issue, Superman states he's using super speed, charges Thor, and gets knocked away with the hammer.. Tries a full blitz again, with after images and everything, and Thor pwns him. Cliffhanger ending with Thor about to kill Superman.. Fourth and final issue, Batman makes the save, casually dodges all of his attacks, batkicks a tossed hammer away, and knocks Thor down with a punch. Thor goes into Fraction mode and charges up the Godblast, and Superman intercepts it, deflecting it with his heat vision. Then Supes and Thor spend the rest of the issue just having a test of strength until it runs out of panels, and the story ends..

Then all I have to do is sell all my assets so I have enough money to ensure both DC and Marvel reference the event using Superman and Thors name, and maybe even have Naruto manga make a reference, and than I can sit back and enjoy the fallout from my crossover.. 😄

I'm sure the reasonable comic book folk will just discard my crossover as rubbish (All 1% of them)... 😈

Originally posted by cdtm
So, if I was writing a Superman/Thor crossover..

Assuming a four issue format, the first issue I'd have Thor knock out Superman with one punch. The second issue, I'd have Thor throw his hammer at Supes, Supes race around for three or four panels keeping ahead of it, and leading it back to Thor having him get KOed with his own hammer.. Third issue, Superman states he's using super speed, charges Thor, and gets knocked away with the hammer.. Tries a full blitz again, with after images and everything, and Thor pwns him. Cliffhanger ending with Thor about to kill Superman.. Fourth and final issue, Batman makes the save, casually dodges all of his attacks, batkicks a tossed hammer away, and knocks Thor down with a punch. Thor goes into Fraction mode and charges up the Godblast, and Superman intercepts it, deflecting it with his heat vision. Then Supes and Thor spend the rest of the issue just having a test of strength until it runs out of panels, and the story ends..

Then all I have to do is sell all my assets so I have enough money to ensure both DC and Marvel reference the event using Superman and Thors name, and maybe even have Naruto manga make a reference, and than I can sit back and enjoy the fallout from my crossover.. 😄

I'm sure the reasonable comic book folk will just discard my crossover as rubbish (All 1% of them)... 😈

So how would you do a Naruto and Thor fight?

Originally posted by vince_slice
Current fight between Surfer and Thor doesn't mean much, since Surfer is being a pacifist again and the only thing he's doing is talking to Thor. Not much has happened anyways. Surfer Blitzes Thor and slams him into mars, and then Thor hammer strikes him.

The difference is as far as I can tell is Surfer is being a pacifist, while Thor is getting blood lusted. The fight should be better judged next issue when Surfer actually decides to fight back, instead of reason.

Norrin looks pissed...

looks like he got a whiff of what thor was cookin. and it was not pleasant.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Current fight between Surfer and Thor doesn't mean much, since Surfer is being a pacifist again and the only thing he's doing is talking to Thor. Not much has happened anyways. Surfer Blitzes Thor and slams him into mars, and then Thor hammer strikes him.

The difference is as far as I can tell is Surfer is being a pacifist, while Thor is getting blood lusted. The fight should be better judged next issue when Surfer actually decides to fight back, instead of reason.

good. If Thor and Surfer are going to go at it Norrin should at least fight back instead of doing the pacifist crap.

i want to see rage's/damborgson's face if the next panel is thor's legs charred off above the knee.

If the next panel is Thor unscathed, I don't want to see their faces.

I hope Thor doesn't no sell it..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If the next panel is Thor unscathed, I don't want to see their faces.

Yeah, that's what you call burying your opponent.

So lets hope not.

Didnt someone already post the next panel and Thor was ok afterwards? Its in the character ownage thread. He no sold it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If the next panel is Thor unscathed, I don't want to see their faces.
Originally posted by carver9
Didnt someone already post the next panel and Thor was ok afterwards? Its in the character ownage thread. He no sold it.

Crap..

A good Norrin blast should be >>> Savage Hulk or Hercules punch, both of which hurt Thor.

Orion suffered from the same problem against Superman..

Originally posted by cdtm
Crap..

A good Norrin blast should be >>> Savage Hulk or Hercules punch, both of which hurt Thor.

Orion suffered from the same problem against Superman..

Why should Surfer blast be more powerful than a punch from Hulk or Hercules? Two different types of attacks buddy.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If the next panel is Thor unscathed, I don't want to see their faces.
we already know that he will be fine, plot kills all suspense.