Thor vs Superman

Started by Fifthchild453 pages
Originally posted by Damborgson
Common sense should tell you otherwise. If all the other worthy receive an amp and their powers are magnified so are hulks.

All the other Worthy are a lot less physically powerful than Thor. Getting a hammer is supposed to give you "the power of Thor". While I dont totally rule out the idea that Worthy Hulk got a powerup beyond having a hammer equivalent to Mjolnir, given the fact that he is the only one of the Worthy (Juggernaut being depowered) who was roughly physically equal to Thor beforehand I think its perfectly possible that he didnt.

^ I think the argument that Worthy Hulk in Fear Itself isn't much more noticeably powerful than current Hulk going by way of feats is the same argument that Gammafied Thor in World War Hulks wasn't much more noticeably powerful than current Thor going by way of feats.

The Worthy and Gammafied amps were both considerable amps to other characters (Worthy Thing wrecking Rulk and Gammafied Cho manifesting reality-warping powers), but Worthy Hulk and Gammafied Thor definitely have not done anything to suggest they received just as proportionate an upgrade.

It's not an unfair observation to make.

It will be interesting to see who wins the fight betwen Thor and Hulk tomorrow in FI#5...Go Thor 😈

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
It will be interesting to see who wins the fight betwen Thor and Hulk tomorrow in FI#5...Go Thor 😈
If a true uncorrupted Hulk fought an uncorrupted Thor and there had to be a clear winner I'd want Hulk to win.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
All the other Worthy are a lot less physically powerful than Thor. Getting a hammer is supposed to give you "the power of Thor". While I dont totally rule out the idea that Worthy Hulk got a powerup beyond having a hammer equivalent to Mjolnir, given the fact that he is the only one of the Worthy (Juggernaut being depowered) who was roughly physically equal to Thor beforehand I think its perfectly possible that he didnt.
Those are not hammers that give u the power of Thor. They are very different. But anyways I think its fairly obvious that the worthy received power ups. To think all would get a power up and not hulk is ridiculous and a porr excuse for covering hulk if he is beaten. There is no reason for him to not have been given an amp while all the others have is what im saying. Just look at the thing.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Those are not hammers that give u the power of Thor. They are very different. But anyways I think its fairly obvious that the worthy received power ups. To think all would get a power up and not hulk is ridiculous and a porr excuse for covering hulk if he is beaten. There is no reason for him to not have been given an amp while all the others have is what im saying. Just look at the thing.

I basically havent read anything of FI yet other than scans on the net but from everything ive seen the hammers are basically Mjolnirs. At least thats how i took it. If thats the case then it could make perfect sense that Hulk doesnt get a physical powerup while everyone else does. Is he more powerful than before? Yes - hes got a magic hammer that can do cool shit. Is he any stronger or more durable than before? Not necessarily.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
It will be interesting to see who wins the fight betwen Thor and Hulk tomorrow in FI#5...Go Thor 😈

Spoilers and some scans are out there now...

So, now that Thor beat

Spoiler:
Worthy Hulk and Amped Thing in a 2v1....
what do you think Surfer's fate is going to be in their fight....

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
So, now that Thor beat
Spoiler:
Worthy Hulk and Amped Thing in a 2v1....
what do you think Surfer's fate is going to be in their fight....
In Thor's mind he could never really beat worthy Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In Thor's mind he could never really beat worthy Hulk.
Nah, that's in Fraction's mind. Besides, he just did. After beating Angrir no less.

Thor's already beaten Hulk before, anyway.

Either way, the comment, whether we read too much into it (which we shouldn't as Fraction isn't subtle) or take it straight up doesn't bother me; Thor's feats and battles against the Hulk speak for themselves. And it's not like it would be the first time that someone said they couldn't perform a feat or defeat someone and then do just that.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's already beaten Hulk before, anyway.

And it's not like it would be the first time that someone said they couldn't perform a feat or defeat someone and then do just that.

👆

Exactly. Despite what Fraction has Thor say (which is tremendously out of character by the way),

Spoiler:
Thor still goes on and beats Hulk.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Nah, that's in Fraction's mind. Besides, he just did. After beating Angrir no less.
Bfring isn't a win in Thor's mind. Thor also passes out right after it. Even though knocking him off the planet is impressive passing out from it right after isn't so much.

To me what was impressive is how Thor mortally wounded worthy Thing with one hammer toss.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bfring isn't a win in Thor's mind. Thor also passes out right after it. Even though knocking him off the planet is impressive passing out from it right after isn't so much.

To me what was impressive is how Thor mortally wounded worthy Thing with one hammer toss.

What's with this "In Thor's Mind stuff"... I don't care what Fraction (who has been portraying Thor horridly in terms of the way he speaks since he's taken it on) has Thor say. Honestly, Thor just whooped up on Thing, and then went on to beat Hulk. That's all that matters. I don't care what Fraction Thor might think, I care what happens on panel.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
What's with this "In Thor's Mind stuff"... I don't care what Fraction (who has been portraying Thor horridly in terms of the way he speaks since he's taken it on) has Thor say. Honestly, Thor just whooped up on Thing, and then went on to beat Hulk. That's all that matters. I don't care what Fraction Thor might think, I care what happens on panel.
Bfring is a win on the battleboards but a fight to the finish in the same comic Thor admits he can't beat the Hulk which history backs up.

Thor also saying to be continued while fainting also speaks volumes. In a no holds barred fight to the finish where bfr isn't an option and one guy falls Hulk will win. Even Thor himself admits it and Hulk's own powers highly favor a battle to the finish far more so than Thor's.

Without Thor's dialogue, would you feel the same way about the events which unfolded, though?

Unless Thor does something he normally doesn't against Hulk. Why does Thor refer to him as Banner? Could it be because Thor could have let Hulk die in the past, but carried him to safety? Thor never tries to kill Hulk; which is odd because it makes you wonder why he was so quick to impale Ben....

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Without Thor's dialogue, would you feel the same way about the events which unfolded, though?
Probably not but a bfr was never a legit win in my mind out of two characters anyways save against huge groups/juggernaut type characters. If Hulk is shown conscious next issue I also think it speaks mountains of what the Hulk can tank as opposed to Thor.

Worthy Hulk got KO and just woke up before reentering earths atmosphere, that's what I got from it. Thor saying he could never beat the hulk is contradiction on the highest level, Thor has beaten a regular Hulk in the past, that statement doesn't makes any sense.

If anything Thor has shown he can take on two amp bricks and held his own and then some.

Who gives a shit? Thor will probably be thrown a bone in the next issue. I just hope Fraction doesn't pussy out and have Thor get beat down by Surfer because his gravely injured.

Thor didn't just battle field remove the Hulk. He went toe to toe, and overpowered him.

Still, I'm more than certain the population of Italy will hang on to that line, ignoring what Thor just accomplished.