Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Yes.

I never compared it to Kryptonite. But you admit a magical attack does hurt him more than a pure physical one right?

With Thor you're getting a combination of both.

Magic bypasses Superman's protective field so yes it is more potent than a physical attack.

Thor is a notorious brawler and because of that he will get hammered very quickly. The Odinson is at a distinct speed disadvantage as well as strength.

By the time Thor would try to use the versatility of Mjolnir, it will be too late.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Magic bypasses Superman's protective field so yes it is more potent than a physical attack.

Thor is a notorious brawler and because of that he will get hammered very quickly. The Odinson is at a distinct speed disadvantage as well as strength.

By the time Thor would try to use the versatility of Mjolnir, it will be too late.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. Thor at his best is too much for Superman. When he goes all out he is a different animal entirely and too powerful for Superman to be able to deal with.

This is a ridiculous argument.

When Thor goes "All out" what will Superman be doing? Becoming more passive?

Clark has the Odinson overwhelmed.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This is a ridiculous argument.

When Thor goes "All out" what will Superman be doing? Becoming more passive?

Clark has the Odinson overwhelmed.

Give an example of the claim you made earlier about him owning bricks in moments.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on which Superman/brick encounters ?

I'll give you better than that.

Superman vs Imperiex probes.

A punch that can destroy an Imperiex probe would KO the Blonde Whore.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I'll give you better than that.

Superman vs Imperiex probes.

A punch that can destroy an Imperiex probe would KO the Blonde Whore.

In the same arc Darkseid overpowered Superman.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Magic bypasses Superman's protective field so yes it is more potent than a physical attack.

So yes the physical strength of a high herald wielding a magical invulnerable weapon is a huge threat to Superman.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thor is a notorious brawler and because of that he will get hammered very quickly. The Odinson is at a distinct speed disadvantage as well as strength.

No.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
By the time Thor would try to use the versatility of Mjolnir, it will be too late.

So let me get this straight. Superman is fighting out of character and speed blitzing from the start, whilst Thor is just being dumb and swinging a fist at Superman?

Don't think so!

Even in a brawl Mjolnir will be a distinct advantage for Thor, a weapon that can be wielded at incredible speeds.

Not to mention it's very much in character for Thor to throw Mjolnir at his opponent from the onset. And Mjolnir can travel multiple times the speed of light and lock down on it's target and follow it until it hits.

In fact even Surfer can not outrun or outmaneuver Mjolnir. So yeah it's not in character at all for Thor to just go up to a Speedster Brick and take a punch and lose.

And you seem to be seriously overstating Superman's strength advantage.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

A punch that can destroy an Imperiex probe would KO the Blonde Whore.

Superman would be very lucky if all a Godblast did was KO him.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So yes the physical strength of a high herald wielding a magical invulnerable weapon is a huge threat to Superman.

No.

So let me get this straight. Superman is fighting out of character and speed blitzing from the start, whilst Thor is just being dumb and swinging a fist at Superman?

Don't think so!

Even in a brawl Mjolnir will be a distinct advantage for Thor, a weapon that can be wielded at incredible speeds.

Not to mention it's very much in character for Thor to throw Mjolnir at his opponent from the onset. And Mjolnir can travel multiple times the speed of light and lock down on it's target and follow it until it hits.

In fact even Surfer can not outrun or outmaneuver Mjolnir. So yeah it's not in character at all for Thor to just go up to a Speedster Brick and take a punch and lose.

And you seem to be seriously overstating Superman's strength advantage.

1. Thor the Brawler- You think my description of Thor as a "Brawler" is a mischaracterization. Respectfully, that makes absolutely no sense given the decades of Thor's canon. The Odinson brawls first and uses Mjolnir as a blunt object. If that fails, he then begins to use the hammer's other abilities.

How many fights do you want me to cite to prove this?

2. Speedblitz- The speed advantage is enough that it doesn't require a blitz from the onset. Thor's history against speed is not good at all.

3. Strength- SUPERMAN IS A TIER STRONGER THAN THOR. That is an undeniable fact.

A fight between Superman and Thor most likely resembles his battle against Count Nefaria.

Wow, this is 417 pages?

Nothing to say about the match itself just amazed by how long it is.

Lots of interesting points/debates when we are not trying to rip each other apart tho.

The magical weakness is a huge advantage for Thor. Couple that with his fighting experience edge and his reflexes and this is his fight.

Lol, so 400+ pages and are "experts" are still debating what their favorite character does in character...

????@experts

Originally posted by quanchi112
The magical weakness is a huge advantage for Thor. Couple that with his fighting experience edge and his reflexes and this is his fight.

You are overstating the "Magical weakness" to a ridiculous extent.

Superman has defeated numerous magic based foes to prove this.

House of El Stand Unblemished in the Sun.

Superman wins this. Far too fast and strong with
Better maneuverability.

Thor's weakness is the lack of Mjolnir. Mjolnir could be knocked away, made to drop (when Thor gets rocked), so if Thor misses a throw.

Thor is more versatile but Versatility is a really disadvantage against a speedster. It slows the combatant down even further (it takes more time to think of which power to employ).

Finally, the speed deficit makes this a stomp but the freeze breath ability makes this completely unfair.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. Thor at his best is too much for Superman. When he goes all out he is a different animal entirely and too powerful for Superman to be able to deal with.

Thor tries to punch it out with Supes: loses.
Thor fights smart with Mjolnir: wins.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Thor tries to punch it out with Supes: loses.
Thor fights smart with Mjolnir: wins.

Superman is too fast for Thor. Thor would be a statue. There is no fighting smart when you don't get much chances to make an action. Plus fighting smart implies 'time to think'. Thor has no time to think or be creative.

Superman, knowing Thor's power is in Mjolnir, can simply knocked the hammer away or hit Thor hard enough to cause him to drop it. Then commence to keeping Thor from the hammer. That's if Superman doesn't want to ko Thor right away.