Originally posted by Cosmic CubeYou dont think BlackBolt could harm Superman?
Sonic attacks? Superman is faster than sound. That won't affect him.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeSuperman used this technique more than once so bad writing is out the window son.
The truth is, there aren't any. Superman vibrating through attacks is the epitome of bad writing.
Thor stopped time 41 years ago and hasnt done it since.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeStopping time is cheesy and a few characters should only have that power.
I brought it up to stir the debate. Avalon brought up Superman vibrating through attacks. I brought up Thor doing something equally as cheesy.
Vibrating through attacks moving at great speeds isnt as cheesy.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
You dont think BlackBolt could harm Superman?Superman used this technique more than once so bad writing is out the window son.
Thor stopped time 41 years ago and hasnt done it since.
Blackbolt doesn't use sonic attacks.
That's the first time Superman ever vibrated through an attack. Can you provide any other instances of him vibrating through matter? He has been in worse predicaments, and failed to use the ability.
I can't be sure that he hasn't stopped time since then. Regardless, he did it, and he hasn't suffered a retcon.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Stopping time is cheesy and a few characters should only have that power.Vibrating through attacks moving at great speeds isnt as cheesy.
Superman vibrating through attacks is VERY cheesy. There's no way anyone short of a Skyfather could affect Superman if he could simply vibrate his body through an attack.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeMan Of Steele #110 he vibrated his body invisible Cosmic.(Trying to find my copy and scan it for you)
Blackbolt doesn't use sonic attacks.That's the first time Superman ever vibrated through an attack. Can you provide any other instances of him vibrating through matter? He has been in worse predicaments, and failed to use the ability.
I can't be sure that he hasn't stopped time since then. Regardless, he did it, and he hasn't suffered a retcon.
And on another case he vibrated his arms so fast it shattered Cyborg. (Avalon has the issue)
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Man Of Steele #110 he vibrated his body invisible Cosmic.(Trying to find my copy and scan it for you)And on another case he vibrated his arms so fast it shattered Cyborg. (Avalon has the issue)
That story was full of holes. Regardless, Superman hadn't vibrated through any attacks in MOS #110.
My point is, why acknowledge one character's ability that would make him potentially unbeatable, and disacknolwedge the other's?
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeBut he was still invisible.
That story was full of holes. Regardless, Superman hadn't vibrated through any attacks in MOS #110.
Originally posted by snoopdoggStopping time makes you Skyfather level. Vibrating though attacks does not. [/B][/QUOTE]
But he was still invisible.
QUOTE=4220788]Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
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My point is, why acknowledge one character's ability that would make him potentially unbeatable, and disacknolwedge the other's?
Opinion. Vibrating through attacks makes you unbeatable, as does stopping time.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
yeah he does but Skyfather level? Come on. Be real.
Did you ever see me say that it would make him Skyfather level? I said that no one short of a Skyfather level character would be able to affect him, and that's the truth. Never did I say that his power would be on par with a Skyfather's.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I was just saying that stopping time should be a power only a few characters should have like Galactus and Odin etc.
Opinion. There are quite a few characters in Marvel and DC who below Skyfather level, and are able to stop time, (Gamora, Dr. Strange, Hourman the Android, etc.)
In my opinion, no one should be able to vibrate through attacks. (It's terrible science, and it makes for cheesy fights.) But, what do our opinions matter?
<<That story was full of holes. Regardless, Superman hadn't vibrated through any attacks in MOS #110.
My point is, why acknowledge one character's ability that would make him potentially unbeatable, and disacknolwedge the other's?>>
a couple things:
1 - supe's has done it somewhat more recently . . . and yes, common sense dictates time SHOULD matter in this case. again - is this ability consistent with thor's established character? clearly not. has supes's used his superspeed to avoid attacks? has he vibrated to cause damage? many, many times. one instance is well within the range of a charater's accepted norms, the other case is not even close to the norm.
2 - i don't happen to believe supes was actually 'vibrating through' those attacks in that scan. he was moving at superspeed and dodging them - like he did the lightning dd shot at him. in the profile shot, we just can't see him moving from side to side.
and 3 - it wouldn't necessarily take skyfather level at all to hit/beat him - it would only take someone of comparable speed - capt marvel, ww, flash, manhunter - there are many beings of comparable speed who could logically counter supes's own speed. and i don't think anyone said he was immune to telepathy - just very resistant and made so by his own mental powers. magic would still affect him as well, and i'm thinking he probably couldn't vibrate through k-radiation . . . (i assume you meant that tongu-in-cheek?)