There. I voted for Dooku.
Truth is, I don't think his chances of defeating Mace are all that high, thanks in full to Vaapad and the shatterpoint ability. But if people are saying Obi-Wan has a fairly significant chance of pulling off a win against Windu, I fail to see why Dooku - a far more skilled and powerful opponent - wouldn't have a shot.
Originally posted by Faunus
There. I voted for Dooku.Truth is, I don't think his chances of defeating Mace are all that high, thanks in full to Vaapad and the shatterpoint ability. But if people are saying Obi-Wan has a fairly significant chance of pulling off a win against Windu, I fail to see why Dooku - a far more skilled and powerful opponent - wouldn't have a shot.
well the argument for Obi-Wan having a shot against Mace is being a smarter fighter. and the fact that if he can hold off Anakin for so long, then why not Mace. Anakin being a More Powerful Sith Lord than Dooku was.
But your right Dooku defo has more than just a shot at Mace. He manhandled Sora Bulq while taking out Tholme with a Force Push, and then finishing Bulq with Force Lightning.
Mace had trouble against Bulq on his own.
Force Lightning not only gives Dooku the edge without Sabers, but even gives him a chance against Mace with a Saber.
and in dueling Dookus no slouch, being the unrivalled master of Makashi, the best blade to blade combat form from forms 1-6 at least.
and please stop with this Force Crush nonesense.. Mace is NOT going to Force Crush Dooku!!! Obi-Wan also uses Force Crush against Durge... so what??? whats the big deal?? when someone uses it agianst another Force User then ill be impressed...
but so far the only ones whom seemed to manhandle other Force users just using the Force are Dooku and Anakin. Anakin against Ventress, and Dooku against Obi-Wan and Ventress.
So the chances of Mace manhandling Dooku with the Force by doing something like a Force Crush on him is very slim, and there is no evidence anywhere to suggest he could.
Originally posted by Gideon
You're breaking rules and being generally annoying. This will likely get you banned, and then you can go tell daddy that you were booted off of an online forum because you refused to listen to the rules. Given that the military focuses on extreme discipline and obedience, perhaps it will prepare you for your supposed deployment to Iraq.So, stow it soldier and do as commanded.
As I said, go wine to someone else about it, cupcake.
And I don't think that my dad would care about some nerd giving me lip on a forum, actually I think it's an irony that I protect the very freedom for you to sit on your rear in your mom's basement and act like your Miss Thang to me over a computer.
I don't take orders from little girls, unless you want to show me how your gonna get me to stow it. 😉
Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
As I said, go wine to someone else about it, cupcake.And I don't think that my dad would care about some nerd giving me lip on a forum, actually I think it's an irony that I protect the very freedom for you to sit on your rear in your mom's basement and act like your Miss Thang to me over a computer.
I don't take orders from little girls, unless you want to show me how your gonna get me to stow it. 😉
😆
Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
As I said, go wine to someone else about it, cupcake.
I try to not drink wine when I eat my cupcakes. Perhaps you meant 'whine'?
And I don't think that my dad would care about some nerd giving me lip on a forum,
Nerd? First, you misspell a simple word and then bust out dated insults? If you're going to do some verbal sparring, Corporal, try to be original.
actually I think it's an irony that I protect the very freedom for you to sit on your rear in your mom's basement and act like your Miss Thang to me over a computer.
Mom's living room, actually, and please understand that the way I act on the internet is the same way I act face-to-face. And how exactly are you protecting my rights? Breaking rules on a forum, acting like the poster child for the Special Olympics, and then trying to save face by throwing up dated, useless banter?
I don't take orders from little girls, unless you want to show me how your gonna get me to stow it. 😉
Girls? Nerd? Oh, dear Lord. Perhaps Sarcasm: 101 or Introduction to Banter ought to be included in your basic training, soldier?
Originally posted by Gideon
I try to not drink wine when I eat my cupcakes. Perhaps you meant 'whine'?
LOL...
Nerd? First, you misspell a simple word and then bust out dated insults? If you're going to do some verbal sparring, Corporal, try to be original.
Did you actually sniff with indignation in real life when you said that? 😆
Mom's living room, actually, and please understand that the way I act on the internet is the same way I act face-to-face. And how exactly are you protecting my rights? Breaking rules on a forum, acting like the poster child for the Special Olympics, and then trying to save face by throwing up dated, useless banter?
First, I don't care about your rules, you need to get a life - and a girlfriend.
And as far as being a mongoloid goes, your doing a far better job than I ever could, I mean, you actually talk like a geek and a goober all at once. 😄
Girls? Nerd? Oh, dear Lord. Perhaps Sarcasm: 101 or Introduction to Banter ought to be included in your basic training, soldier?
That's it, flap around and act like a girl. LOL!
Why don't you join and find out? If you have the kahonas that is. wink3
I think you'd rather hang around on your computer all day and act like you have a testosterone deficiency. hysterical
Originally posted by Gideon
Given your arguments, Faunus, I have but one question: is it your testimony that Windu would likely not defeat Sidious in a rematch? Because it is the general consensus (by even myself) that he could. You seem to imply that Dooku is capable of eliminating Windu in an all out fight with the Force, but if that were the case, so would Sidious, since he's more powerful than Dooku himself.
well Lucas confirms in the ROTS audio commentary that Sidious was faking being weak with his Force Lightning. add this to the fact that from the scene Mace was struggling to hold on to his lightsaber and was forced to let go with one hand just before Sidious stopped(stopped because he was pretending to be weak in front of Anakin).
also add this to the ROTS novel stating how Mace's blade was being forced back to his own face, and he was really struggling to hold on and also Mace felt this was beyond Vapaad!!
putting this together confirms Mace would most likely be overpowered by Sidious's lightning if there was no Anakin there. and that Sidious would most likely win in an all out fight. Therfore the argument that Mace beat Sidious so would beat Dooku does not apply.
Although it does show Mace would most likely have the advantage in Saber dueling as Mace won the Saber duel agianst Sidious fair and Square.
Originally posted by Gideon
You're breaking rules and being generally annoying. This will likely get you banned, and then you can go tell daddy that you were booted off of an online forum because you refused to listen to the rules. Given that the military focuses on extreme discipline and obedience, perhaps it will prepare you for your supposed deployment to Iraq.So, stow it soldier and do as commanded.
I just read this. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH