RotS Mace Windu VS RotS Count Dooku

I didn't read the entire thread, but didn't Mace Windu beat DARTH SIDIOUS? A > B > C?

Yeah but Sidious was technically pretty lacking with a lightsaber, having no real practise with the weapon for over a decade according to Gideon. He was essentially very powerful in the Force, and relatively speaking not very skilled with a lightsaber, maximising the advantages Windu gains through Vaapad and Shatterpoint.

S = Shatterpoint
V = Vaapad
L = Lightsaber Skill
D = Dark Side Power

The higher L is, the lower S is.
The higher D is, the higher V is.
Ergo, the higher D is with respect to L, the higher S + V is.
The higher L is with respect to D, the lower S + V is.

Dooku's D with respect to L is much lower than it is for Sidious, and as such S + V would be much lower against him than it would be against Sidious.

Originally posted by Balmung
Yeah but Sidious was technically pretty lacking with a lightsaber, having no real practise with the weapon for over a decade according to Gideon. He was essentially very powerful in the Force, and relatively speaking not very skilled with a lightsaber, maximising the advantages Windu gains through Vaapad and Shatterpoint.

Sidious stood up to Yoda in lightsaber combat.

Yoda himself was very much like Sidious; powerful in the Force, out of practise with the lightsaber.

I may consider dropping the blanket ban on you, Nebaris. So far, you haven't been acting infantile or retarded, but mature and intelligent. Keep it up and REX may not ban you, and you will take your place in our society.

Fail me and you shall pay the price.

Originally posted by Gideon
I may consider dropping the blanket ban on you, Nebaris. So far, you haven't been acting infantile or retarded, but mature and intelligent. Keep it up and REX may not ban you, and you will take your place in our society.

Fail me and you shall pay the price.

Who are you talking to? No me: I don't even know a thing about Revan other than that he was a powerful sith a great tactician that invaded the republic, lost his memory and became good...

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Who are you talking to? No me: I don't even know a thing about Revan other than that he was a powerful sith a great tactician that invaded the republic, lost his memory and became good...

Nebaris = Balmung. A former outcast and someone whom we were on the verge of excising from the very history of the world! For some reason, he's acting more civilized rather than a loser (like resident fatties Blaxican or Faunus).

I believe Mace would be victorious. Dooku could probably have taken him a little earlier in his career (Apparently, he did) but at this point, I think Mace exceeds him in swordplay.

Originally posted by Forum Ninja
I believe Mace would be victorious. Dooku could probably have taken him a little earlier in his career (Apparently, he did) but at this point, I think Mace exceeds him in swordplay.

Seconded.

The problem is, OOU, how gay it is that Windu -- who is no Yoda -- could defeat both leaders of the Confederacy. Weakens your villains, in my opinions.

It's quite embarrassing for the villains, I tell you that much.

Originally posted by Forum Ninja
It's quite embarrassing for the villains, I tell you that much.

Don't watch TCW. Kit Fisto defeats General Grievous.

Defeats ? Like fair and square ?

Yep.

But, Ki-Adi-Mundi had such a difficult time with him, even with other Jedi backing him up ... And I thought that Obi was the only one (not in the top tier) who could beat him thanks to his über Soresu.

I'm confused.

It shouldn't be nonsensical. Different opponents react differently with each other. The geography is different, the emotions are different, the styles are different, etc.

I could go on, nitpick and sling out a thousand different things that contribute to a battle being different each time with varying opponents.

Originally posted by Gideon
Don't watch TCW. Kit Fisto defeats General Grievous.

Kit got lucky, Grievous must have had a techno-cold or something.

When doesn't he have a techno cold? The prick coughs all the time.

Regardless, Kit had enough skill to defeat him. It's canon and I don't think it's luck.

I'd attribute Kenobi's victory against Grievous in ROTS to be closer towards luck.

Originally posted by Genesis
When doesn't he have a techno cold? The prick coughs all the time.

Regardless, Kit had enough skill to defeat him. It's canon and I don't think it's luck.

I'd attribute Kenobi's victory against Grievous in ROTS to be closer towards luck.

Doesn't Grievous have that cough because Mace smashed his chest via Force Push, or something along thsoe lines.