Re: Re: Re: Re: Cops acquited after shooting ONE black man 50 times
Originally posted by KidRock
Lol you do know 2 of the 3 cops were black..right?And the cop that shot first..and shot 31 out of the 50 bullets..was black?
Or is it all just whitey controlling them?
Originally posted by inimalist
there is a phenomena in social psychology where people are quicker to associate black people with weapons. This is true of black observers as well. It is not only white people who hold the stereotype that blacks are dangerous.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cops acquited after shooting ONE black man 50 times
Originally posted by inimalist
So is there also a social phenomana where black and white people usually HEAR black people say "yo go get my gun as well?"
So people seem to both associate black people with guns now and also their minds make them think they are hearing things such as "yo get my gun" come from their mouths?
Are black people more prone to committing crime then? Or are we all just a bunch of paranoid bigots?
Originally posted by chithappens
It's just a really sad thing because it starts to seem so obvious that it makes you doubt it's true. Sometimes rappers don't speak in hyperbole.
Originally posted by chithappens
I think it's really hard not to feel as if there is a racial element to this. I don't want to go far into, but there is something wrong with the cops in New York. A couple of years back they shot an African immigrant because "mistook his wallet for a gun."
You know I think there are certain posters on this forum where if this were the 80s or 70s they would still be complaining if you brought up race. 😂
Lol they would see black people being hosed down by riot police in the 60s and they'd say some shit like "Nah man the police were just protecting themselves!!"
Originally posted by chithappens
Cops. I don't care what race the cops were.Black cops got stripes by beating on black folks even in the 70s
Correct. Racism doesnt just involve one race persecuting another but causing people of the same race to hate each other.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You know I think there are certain posters on this forum where if this were the 80s or 70s they would still be complaining if you brought up race. 😂Lol they would see black people being hosed down by riot police in the 60s and they'd say some shit like "Nah man the police were just protecting themselves!!"
no, they were just cooling them down. it gets pretty hot in georgia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cops acquited after shooting ONE black man 50 times
Originally posted by KidRock
So is there also a social phenomana where black and white people usually HEAR black people say "yo go get my gun as well?"So people seem to both associate black people with guns now and also their minds make them think they are hearing things such as "yo get my gun" come from their mouths?
oh, ok
so you just don't understand what people are upset about
nobody is saying the cops shouldn't have tried to arrest and check these guys for guns
its the unloading of 50 bullets into a car full of unarmed men who are no longer fleeing without ever trying to subdue them.
The reason race is brought into it is to try and understand why black people are more commonly (at least it seems in the media) the victim of such police "mistakes".
I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, show me some stuff that says police kill as many white people needlessly as blacks and I will be equally enraged, though I'll drop the race angle.
Oh, also, explain why minority groups with similar socio-economic status have similar problems in other countries with the police. Like natives in Canada? This is, of course, if race and ethnicity have nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by KidRock
Are black people more prone to committing crime then? Or are we all just a bunch of paranoid bigots?
it would actually be a very complex and self reinforcing loop of behaviour
Originally posted by inimalist
Oh, also, explain why minority groups with similar socio-economic status have similar problems in other countries with the police. Like natives in Canada? This is, of course, if race and ethnicity have nothing to do with it.
I will address this briefly. I'm not going to attempt to persuade people like KidRock who are skeptical of anything concerning race relations because no one is prejudice in modern society according them.
Editoral On The Sean Bell Verdict
That is a twisted logic deeply rooted in the America social fabric, dating back to the founding fathers and their crazy calculations about slaves being three-fifths of a human being. And in spite of Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods, and other successful Black individuals, by and large the masses of Black people, and Latino people, are perpetually viewed through this lens of not being quite human.
Inimalist has brought this up a few times earlier and I will address this again. No race is represented in a realistic light by the media. The people who make up the majority of the population in the U.S. live in rural areas. Those people are all forgotten. The concerns of those people never show up in mass media, until DA-DA-DA: presidential election time! They make all these promises to the blue collar workers of the Midwest, for example, and never follow up on it. And for three and half years, people in urban areas forget they existed, which is why Obama made the comments he made about people in rural areas not trusting the federal government: they feel they have no say in what goes on at all.
According to what we are exposed to on TV, people in rural areas are idiots who kiss their cousins. Now keep in mind I mean poor and rural, not rural with a ranch on 100 acres.
When it comes to the city it normally works like this:
Originally posted by chithappens
Your assumption about the inner city is true. In urban areas, white people generally live on the outskirts (although this is changing now because they are starting to buy out downtown projects for cheap so they can renovate and up the market value; this pushes all poor people outside the city - basically "white flight"😉.
The interesting thing here is that white people of urban areas are identified, by the media, as being generally upper-middle class, living the high life and all of that stuff; meanwhile, black people are identified by the ghetto, thug persona. Truthfully, a good amount of white people struggle just like everyone else, but this struggle is never given a real light. Politicians make promises and throw poor whites under the bus like everyone else. But then there is stuff that you can not really account for, like these things:
Philadelphia Mayor orders bomb on "black radicals"
A state police helicopter this evening dropped a bomb on a house occupied by an armed group after a 24-hour siege involving gun battles. A 90 -minute shootout this morning came after a week of growing tension between the city and the group, known as Move. Residents in the western Philadelphia neighborhood had complained about the group for years. The only known survivors from within the house were a woman and a child. The fire spread to 50 to 60 other houses in the neighborhood, said the Fire Commissioner, William Richmond. He declared the fire under control about 11:40 P.M.
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
I could continue naming things but on ALL levels of government, but at this point it is beating a dead horse. I just wanted to show some things that KMC members might not be aware of.
Everyone is getting screwed around but black people are having blatantly dumb, racist things done so, as a black man, I can't help but shake my head when a car with three black men is shot @ 50 times and every charge is dropped, no punishment is handed down (I did not go into police brutality because obviously certain people will just attack it and say this post is not valid but it happens way too often).
Obviously, there are those who do not view race as a factor when they make decisions, but certainly there is a problem with how things are carried out as a whole.
Originally posted by chithappens
I will address this briefly. I'm not going to attempt to persuade people like KidRock who are skeptical of anything concerning race relations because no one is prejudice in modern society according them.Editoral On The Sean Bell Verdict
Inimalist has brought this up a few times earlier and I will address this again. No race is represented in a realistic light by the media. The people who make up the majority of the population in the U.S. live in rural areas. Those people are all forgotten. The concerns of those people never show up in mass media, until DA-DA-DA: presidential election time! They make all these promises to the blue collar workers of the Midwest, for example, and never follow up on it. And for three and half years, people in urban areas forget they existed, which is why Obama made the comments he made about people in rural areas not trusting the federal government: they feel they have no say in what goes on at all.
According to what we are exposed to on TV, people in rural areas are idiots who kiss their cousins. Now keep in mind I mean poor and rural, not rural with a ranch on 100 acres.
When it comes to the city it normally works like this:
The interesting thing here is that white people of urban areas are identified, by the media, as being generally upper-middle class, living the high life and all of that stuff; meanwhile, black people are identified by the ghetto, thug persona. Truthfully, a good amount of white people struggle just like everyone else, but this struggle is never given a real light. Politicians make promises and throw poor whites under the bus like everyone else. But then there is stuff that you can not really account for, like these things:
Philadelphia Mayor orders bomb on "black radicals"
I could continue naming things but on ALL levels of government, but at this point it is beating a dead horse. I just wanted to show some things that KMC members might not be aware of.
Everyone is getting screwed around but black people are having blatantly dumb, racist things done so, as a black man, I can't help but shake my head when a car with three black men is shot @ 50 times and every charge is dropped, no punishment is handed down (I did not go into police brutality because obviously certain people will just attack it and say this post is not valid but it happens way too often).
Obviously, there are those who do not view race as a factor when they make decisions, but certainly there is a problem with how things are carried out as a whole.
I love points you are making and I think you have a very good mindset...
I have one problem, the majority of Americans do not live in rural areas.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I love points you are making and I think you have a very good mindset...I have one problem, the majority of Americans do not live in rural areas.
To cover this in complete context would have taken forever so let me add this: Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and that was before this current economic recession. The common American is not well represented and it gives everyone the idea that everyone is doing fine when in fact we are all a few steps from being out on the street.