Some parents really need to whoop their kids' ass.

Originally posted by Phucked Up
No, what is presumptuous is him saying that you're automatically a bad parent if you spank your child. He has no facts to back his statement up. Until he is a father or has had a heavy hand in raising one, he won't know exactly what he's talking about.

I have had a heavy hand in raising one.

So what was that word you said before? The one beginning with P? Pre...presu...something.

I actually said bad parents MIGHT need to raise their hands, good parents do not. What I said, whilst not covering all bases, was factually true. Bad parents do resort to spankings and beatings, good parents CAN raise their kids well without ever laying a hand.

I never said those were the only outcomes, but it's factually true.

Yoo wan' shilleh wid dat?

-AC

Originally posted by Mairuzu
My little brothers and sisters don't get disciplined and they run a muck

Same here. When I was younger if I stole, swore, hit my cousins or whatever I got a skelp or a thick ear. Didn't do me any real harm, and I've grown up alright.
My brothers though weren't psychically disciplined because at the time it was seen as wrong to hit your kids and they really lack respect for anything, and my youngest sister throws temper tantrums over the slightest thing.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really. He has about the same right to make that claim as does a father of 5 children. They both would have to back it up with more than "their experience" and that backing it up would beat any "my experience".

How does that claim hold any credibility when he has never raised a child? You can punish your child with a spanking and not be a bad parent. My parents have proved this and many other parents I know have done so as well.

There's a thin line between busting their ass for doing something bad and abusing them. My parent's never abused me, but they did believe in punishing me when I was being a stupid little shit.

Read my post before you dig yourself a deeper hole, please.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I have had a heavy hand in raising one.

So what was that word you said before? The one beginning with P? Pre...presu...something.

I actually said bad parents MIGHT need to raise their hands, good parents do not. What I said, whilst not covering all bases, was factually true. Bad parents do resort to spankings and beatings, good parents CAN raise their kids well without ever laying a hand.

I never said those were the only outcomes, but it's factually true.

Yoo wan' shilleh wid dat?

-AC

Good parents CAN raise their kids perfectly well, with resorting to a spanking every know and then, bad parents CAN raise their kids wrong without ever raising a hand. This is also factually true.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Read my post before you dig yourself a deeper hole, please.

-AC

dur I was typing that before you posted, get your Huggies out of a wad. dur

Shhhhhh.

From one kind of spanking to another, all in good fun. Both kinds.

Originally posted by Phucked Up
Good parents CAN raise their kids perfectly well, with resorting to a spanking every know and then, bad parents CAN raise their kids wrong without ever raising a hand. This is also factually true.

Yes, and what's your point? I never denied other variables, just highlighted the two I most agree with and have experienced.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Shhhhhh.

From one kind of spanking to another, all in good fun. Both kinds.

-AC

Remember, it's not nice to spank, hypocrite.

Spoiler:
Unless she's (adult) tied to my bed. haermm

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I actually said bad parents MIGHT need to raise their hands, good parents do not. What I said, whilst not covering all bases, was factually true. Bad parents do resort to spankings and beatings, good parents CAN raise their kids well without ever laying a hand.

-AC

Bull. I don't care if the child's mother was immaculately conceived and the child's father wears a white collar and carries a bible to work on Sundays, all children, regardless of upbringing, are going to act like little shits every now and again. To say that "to spank a child is evidence of bad parenting" is nothing short of lunacy. ALL children, will act up in their life time. It's all a matter of degree of how you have to handle it. Sometimes a "time out", like so many Dr. Phils and Oprahs would like us to use, wont work.

Originally posted by Phucked Up
How does that claim hold any credibility when he has never raised a child?

Because he has a brain that can emulate information and reasonably deduct what is correct and what is incorrect. If anything at all, a parent might have more right to say what is right or wrong for their kid. But they still have to prove their point. "I know, cause I have experience" just NEVER cuts it.

Originally posted by Impediment
Bull. I don't care if the child's mother was immaculately conceived and the child's father wears a white collar and carries a bible to work on Sundays, all children, regardless of upbringing, are going to act like little shits every now and again.

Go on.

Originally posted by Impediment
To say that "to spank a child is evidence of bad parenting" is nothing short of lunacy. [b]ALL children, will act up in their life time. It's all a matter of degree of how you have to handle it. Sometimes a "time out", like so many Dr. Phils and Oprahs would like us to use, wont work. [/B]

I said it can be, never said it factually always was.

Please everyone, read.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Bad parents do resort to spankings and beatings, good parents CAN raise their kids well without ever laying a hand.

-AC

Okay, kitten. Please elaborate. 🙂

Bad parents do resort to spankings and beatings, do they not? That's a bad parent to me, and every bad parent I've ever known, and heard of, has done something along those lines.

However, oh there's a "However". Where did I say "All parents that spank are bad parents"?

Oh come on, gotta do better than that.

-AC

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, sir. What I meant was, what I gathered from your previous statement is that any parent who lays a hand on their child is Satan, and only "perfect" parents never have to swat their kids.

He got a point. He said "Shitty parents might..."

Not that all bad parents do, nor that there are no good parents that do.

The key words are:

"what I gathered from your previous statement is...".

What you GATHERED from it. See?

-AC

yeah ac, you actually didnt say that parents who spank their kids are bad, but you sure implied the **** out of it.

So answer me this question:

You said that "a bad parent will have to lay a hand on their child, whereas a good parent will not have to."

Why? Where is the logic that a good parent, no matter what their parenting tactics are, will never have to swat their child?

Everything is clarified nicely now, and people can stop extracting things I didn't say.

It's all part of the plan. Lovely stuff.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The key words are:

"what I gathered from your previous statement is...".

What you GATHERED from it. See?

-AC

So answer me this question:

You said that "a bad parent will have to lay a hand on their child, whereas a good parent will not have to."

Why? Where is the logic that a good parent, no matter what their parenting tactics are, will never have to swat their child?