GL Hal Jordan vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Larceny
24 hours doesn't equate to infinite. Also, a 24 hour charge also means the ring does in fact need to be charged, which was my point the entire time.

So yes, you were wrong.... again.

No you were wrong. You were trying to say the rings need to be charged mid battle.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOne taken. The rings charges may well have to do with how much time is left. Becuz when they are "5%" does this impede what they are capable of doing? NOpe. YOu see when something is truly at 5% of it's original power, then that limits what it can do. I've never seen a ring low on charge not being able to do what it always has. 5% would indicate it was only at 5% capacity, which is NOT the case. 😄

I swear i remember a GL saying he barley had enough energy left to keep him alive in space, and it had nothing to do with time,

Remember when the GL corps first started, kilowog came to the rescue and gathered them together, he asked what their power levels were, when replies came forth, someone had alot of power left and a remark was made that they did not participate in the battle and did not do anything.....which would support my theory on the rings charge?

It has been shown on-panel where a GL used 70 % of his ring's energy in one attack alone.

Therefore it can be said that the rings have a limited amount of power they can use before having to be recharged, that's not based on time, but amount of power used.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Surfer has a long history of beating opponents who manipulate energy in a similar way to Green Lanterns. He has been shown to both be able to manipulate this energy himself as well as phase through it, he did it against Quasar for instance.

Check out this page for some examples:
http://www.geocities.com/bruno_nojunk/type-energy_manipulation-14.html

Not to mention Hal >>>> Qusar.

The things you mentioned have also been done by Hal.

Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]Surfer has a long history of beating opponents who manipulate energy in a similar way to Green Lanterns. He has been shown to both be able to manipulate this energy himself as well as phase through it, he did it against Quasar for instance.

Green Lantern has a long history of beating opponents who manipulate energy in a similar way to Silver Surfer. He has been shown to both be able to manipulate this energy himself as well as phase through it, as he did against Sinestro for instance.

unfortunately, none of that matters as Hal/GL cannot operate at the speeds Surfer does. nor is Hal/GL as durable, powerful or capable of distance attacks as Surfer is.

what would happen to Hal if Surfer started to siphon the Oan energies from his ring, whilst simultaneously opening a blackhole behind him?

what could Hal do to Surfer?
come on, a GL is never going to beat Surfer.

Your biased is incredible. 😐

Originally posted by janus77
give me a reasonable scenario. I can't think of one, thus 10/10.
you wanna laugh at it, go ahead, but it's sounding awful hollow to me.

and yes Surfer is faster. he's >= Flash in terms of speed. you wanna show me when GLs have out sped Superman, nevermind Flash?

Surfer's 100s of times faster, 100x stronger, 100s of times more durable, has 100,000x greater range (actually there should be more noughts in that, as he can attack/kill from a light year away!) and can do anything a GL can, whatever he wants to do with the Power Cosmic and, more importantly, it doesn't require will power to sustain it or empower it...

that's a surprise to me, scan?

Surfer's CA gives him the ability to see across galaxies, tracking even a 'mote of dust'...

but still ... how is a GL going to beat Surfer?

Originally posted by janus77
that's a surprise to me, scan?

Surfer's CA gives him the ability to see across galaxies, tracking even a 'mote of dust'...

but still ... how is a GL going to beat Surfer?

By mocking him about using cosmic power to track random motes of dust until he dies of shame.

Or squish his head with giant ****ing tweezers.

nah, UniLord already tried both those techniques... Surfer's cosmic glaze protects him from mockery 😕.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
More impressive than Holding big bangs? NOT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No you were wrong. You were trying to say the rings need to be charged mid battle.

Quote anywhere in my post where I even hinted such an idea? You made a false claim, I corrected you. All power rings with the exception of Kyle's require charging. 🙂

Originally posted by Larceny
Quote anywhere in my post where I even hinted such an idea? You made a false claim, I corrected you. All power rings with the exception of Kyle's require charging. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So surfer can beat an army of GL constructs that are all from hals imagination. ANd he just happens to imagine an army of green silver surfers. LMAO.

I don't know what's wrong with some people's arguments. When it comes to versatility the GL's have Surfer beat by a long way. The only advantage Surfer has is his superspeed, with it he could potentially defeat Hal but that's no guarantee.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So surfer can beat an army of GL constructs that are all from hals imagination. ANd he just happens to imagine an army of green silver surfers. LMAO.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
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So... Hal gets prep, and magic for this fight?

Kyle once made an army of constructs in a few moments srug

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Kyle once made an army of constructs in a few moments srug

I assume that's what nvr was talking about (since he's probably going to change it right after he reads your post).

That would also fall under prep... wouldn't it?

Originally posted by Kutulu
It has been shown on-panel where a GL used 70 % of his ring's energy in one attack alone.

Therefore it can be said that the rings have a limited amount of power they can use before having to be recharged, that's not based on time, but amount of power used.

I am thankfull i am not the only one who noticed this, if this is the way the power levels are goiong to be, i dont see GL's doing so good on these boards(which stinks because they are some of my favorite characters)

I am thinking that feats that require no more concentration than normal...ie flying,auto shields, blocking radiation heat,cold, detection etc can be done for 24 hours
Battle and high end feats will drain the power levels quicker

This might be a good topic for a new thread in the comic section? or in a GL thread already there?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Hal did too... when he got granted a wish... and then he re-created the GL corps.

I assume that's what nvr was talking about (since he's probably going to change it right after he reads your post).

That would also fall under prep... wouldn't it?