GL Hal Jordan vs Silver Surfer

Started by celeyhyga1781 pages

Using supernovas to diminish Surfer's durability is almost like using the casket of ancient winters on Ymir. He'll smile while being buffeted by its forces and even play around in it(surfing) a little.

Originally posted by emu
Holy Superman Abhi, a supernova is gas 😬

Exactly

Going by the argument presented here Superman has tanked 50 supernovas. And the surfer dude in the video tanked a stick of dynamite.

If you guys are happy with that. I have no problem with it. 😆
Because apparently for you is the same thing.

And I still haven't seen Surfer tanking a super nova.

And lol at a nova being = to a supernova.

Logic is just being thrown out of the window.

Whoever accepts that this scans mean that Surfer tanked a Nova it also means that they will believe the surfer in the video tanked a dynamite stick or that Superman just tanked 50 supernovas. 👆

If so please just say it.

"The video shows a normal guy tanking a dynamite stick" 😂

Has surfer ever point blank tanked a supernova? Just wondering.

Because if he's on the outer fringes, he is not even getting close to 1% of 1% of 1% of that energy level.

The farther out you are from the point of origin of an explosion, the less of the pie you take up.

Literally, think of it as a pie chart. With the diameter of the explosion at the distance that you took it from being the pie, and your surface area being the percentage of the pie being taken up.

So you can literally be very close to an explosion, and still only feel 1% or less of its energy. E.G. Let's say you are so close to a large explosion that when it touches you, its only the size of a small apartment. Well more than a hundred of your surface area can easily fit within the space of an apartment sized explosion, so you are getting less than 1% of that energy from that distance.

Of course, if the author says you are feeling the full force of something, (even if you are far enough away that it would be wrong), then that should take some precedence imo.

Originally posted by emu
Going by their argument Surfer tanks by default, cause surfing negates the forces 😂

...yes. That's what Surfing means. The board is propelled by the force of the blast. He is NOT with standing it with his body.

Why can't you read accurately?

Originally posted by panthergod
...yes. That's what Surfing means. The board is propelled by the force of the blast. He is NOT with standing it with his body.

Why can't you read accurately?

For the last time panthergod and Rao, this is not a wave, and the explosion is not a stick of dynamite.

The explosion has a 2d surface. It's completely flat, has the properties of a wave, and behaves like water.
Surfer rides on top of the explosion, therefore doesn't endure the effects, cause dynamite and water=Marvel scans.
That's your argument...

Panthergod and Rao have been completely unraveled by a
surfboard 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
Abhi, you just said he probably could survive a supernova, why? What feats make you think that?

Based on the writers stating it.
Originally posted by emu
Going by their argument Surfer tanks by default, cause surfing negates the forces 😂
Originally posted by emu
Holy Superman Abhi, a supernova is gas 😬

WTF? You think a supernova is just a cloud of gases?

Originally posted by emu
For the last time panthergod and Rao, this is not a wave, and the explosion is not a stick of dynamite.

The explosion has a 2d surface. It's completely flat, has the properties of a wave, and behaves like water.
Surfer rides on top of the explosion, therefore doesn't endure the effects, cause dynamite and water=Marvel scans.
That's your argument...

Panthergod and Rao have been completely unraveled by a
surfboard 👆

Oh dear lord!

You just don't get it. What ever scans are being presented here to claim that Surfer can tank a super nova is nothing but surfer riding the shockwaves of the supernova NOT tanking a supernova explosion do you get it?

You trying to pass that as proof that Surfer can tank a supernova is just silly because it will be the equivalent of me saying that the surfer on the video can tank a dynamite stick.

Now you get it?

If you keep claiming that the scans presented in here are the equivalent of Silver Surfer tanking a supernova then that means you also subscribe to the idea that the surfer on the video tanked a dynamite stick.

Now you get it?

So, do you stick by your claim that the scans presented mean that Surfer can tank a supernova?

This is one of the reasons why I don't debate anymore. Repeating a concept over and over again is time and energy consuming.

Originally posted by emu
For the last time panthergod and Rao, this is not a wave, and the explosion is not a stick of dynamite.

The explosion has a 2d surface. It's completely flat, has the properties of a wave, and behaves like water.
Surfer rides on top of the explosion, therefore doesn't endure the effects, cause dynamite and water=Marvel scans.
That's your argument...

Panthergod and Rao have been completely unraveled by a
surfboard 👆

One more thing as I didn't answer properly your point

the explosion shown on the video is not 2D but 3D (if you want me I can explain that to you)
And Maybe you haven't noticed but the video is shown as an analogy of what surfer is doing and it perfectly fits with what surfer is doing as is a 3D explosion

I am just using the video and trying to give you an easier explaination to what surfer is doing so you can understand it, because apparently for you the scans presented means he can tank a supernova.

Now if you really want to see someone tanking a supernova see the scans of GL presented in here or see the Superman scan where he tanked the electromagnetic field equivalent of 50 supernovas. They were not riding the forces of the Supernova they actually stand there and opposed the forces of the Supernovas. Let that sink in you head for a while.

Do you have a scan of Surfer actually doing that? Because all that it has been presented only point at surfer being skilled enough surfer to ride the "waves" of a nova or a supernova, not actually having the durability to oppose the force of a nova much less a supernova.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on the writers stating it.
WTF? You think a supernova is just a cloud of gases?
C'mon Abhi lol.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
One more thing as I didn't answer properly your point

the explosion shown on the video is not 2D but 3D (if you want me I can explain that to you)
And Maybe you haven't noticed but the video is shown as an analogy of what surfer is doing and it perfectly fits with what surfer is doing as is a 3D explosion

I am just using the video and trying to give you an easier explaination to what surfer is doing so you can understand it, because apparently for you the scans presented means he can tank a supernova.

Now if you really want to see someone tanking a supernova see the scans of GL presented in here or see the Superman scan where he tanked the electromagnetic field equivalent of 50 supernovas. They were not riding the forces of the Supernova they actually stand there and opposed the forces of the Supernovas. Let that sink in you head for a while.

Do you have a scan of Surfer actually doing that? Because all that it has been presented only point at surfer being skilled enough surfer to ride the "waves" of a nova or a supernova, not actually having the durability to oppose the force of a nova much less a supernova.

Im not talking about your utoob clip, Im talking about what Surfer is surfing.
You brought waves and dynamite and all kinds of shit in here 😐
I'll go right back to the begining, then I'll let guys better than me handle it if there's life still left in this thread.
If you want Surfer to stand still, act like a GL and tank a supernova explosion face first, then no, he hasn't tanked a supernova.
If you mean tanking a supernova by surfing the explosion, then yes, he has.
CC made perfect sense, I get where he's coming from, but you and panthergod are shocking 👆

Originally posted by emu
Im not talking about your utoob clip, Im talking about what Surfer is surfing.
You brought waves and dynamite and all kinds of shit in here 😐
I'll go right back to the begining, then I'll let guys better than me handle it if there's life still left in this thread.
If you want Surfer to stand still, act like a GL and tank a supernova explosion face first, then no, he hasn't tanked a supernova.
If you mean tanking a supernova by surfing the explosion, then yes, he has.
CC made perfect sense, I get where he's coming from, but you and panthergod are shocking 👆

Ok I guess we partially agree. I don't see the riding the waves as an indication of tanking a supernova but we don't always have to agree on everything. Plus not really want to take the thread into that direction any longer.

I usually address point by point like many in here do, but lately I haven't feel like it and I know that not answering point by point it usually leads to just walls of text jumping from one point to another so I apologize if my idea wasn't presented in a more clear manner.

Now I will just kick back and read the debates again. Thank you for reading my posts while I was heavily medicated and high 🙂 true story. Most of the post I made in here were done while I was heavily medicated on dilauded and benadryl so it was really hard for me to put the ideas together 😄

Originally posted by emu
C'mon Abhi lol.

What is your point?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ok I guess we partially agree. I don't see the riding the waves as an indication of tanking a supernova but we don't always have to agree on everything. Plus not really want to take the thread into that direction any longer.

I usually address point by point like many in here do, but lately I haven't feel like it and I know that not answering point by point it usually leads to just walls of text jumping from one point to another so I apologize if my idea wasn't presented in a more clear manner.

Now I will just kick back and read the debates again. Thank you for reading my posts while I was heavily medicated and high 🙂 true story. Most of the post I made in here were done while I was heavily medicated on dilauded and benadryl so it was really hard for me to put the ideas together 😄

Always respect, regardless of tone 👆

Originally posted by emu
For the last time panthergod and Rao, this is not a wave, and the explosion is not a stick of dynamite.

The explosion has a 2d surface. It's completely flat, has the properties of a wave, and behaves like water.
Surfer rides on top of the explosion, therefore doesn't endure the effects, cause dynamite and water=Marvel scans.
That's your argument...

Panthergod and Rao have been completely unraveled by a
surfboard 👆


You are officially illiterate.

Do you know what the term analogy means? Lets see just how incapable you are of comprehending 50 year old children's stories.

And no, nothing you said changes my point. Riding a shockwave with the board does NOT mean he tanked The blast any more than a normal surfer tanks a wave. The MEDIUM is irrelevant. Energy/gas shockwave or water, the board is being PUSHED by kinetic energy.

Comic books are THIS difficult for you? How old are you?

You're talking about waves.
Hence your hangups on Surfer surfing.

I'm talking about an explosion.
Hence my hangups on these analogies.

It's not hard to understand panthergod!
Are YOU illiterate?

The effects of an explosion (i.e. what hits you) is a wave.

Energy travels in a wave.

Rao got it, and he's high 😂

Haha I get it as well, and I've seen the posts above.

Nothing in my post contradicts....well, anyone, really!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The effects of an explosion (i.e. what hits you) is a wave.

Energy travels in a wave.

If the wave is a supernova, I agree. If the ocean wave analogy is used to describe what surfer surfed, I don't agree in the slightest.
If there were less analogies used and more feats on panel, I wouldn't need to be so illiterate.