I can't believe the ignorance displayed in this thread. First of all, anyone saying that the power gem doesn't do anything? Um, explain then why the Champion was able to destroy a planet with the power gem, but lose to She-hulk without it? Sure, it means nothing...
Thor with the Power Gem >> Superman strength
Thanos has never lost a physical fight
Thanos has WAY fewer losses than Darkseid has.
Thanos has taken energy blasts from Tyrant, Omega (Galactus/Thanos clone), Beyonder, Odin and many more and survived.
Thanos Mind raped the Beyonder and left him/her sitting in it's own stupidity.
He has accomplished more than Darkseid in his career as well, not only securing the vaunted Infinity Gauntlet, but the Heart of the Universe Itself.
He has made a fool of Mephisto, he has Saved and nearly destroyed the Universe.
I respect Darkseid, but he has worse defeats than Thanos has ever dreamed of.
One last check....
Darkseid = loses to Superman
Thanos = pwns Thor and Thing at the same time, and pwns Surfer every time...
Originally posted by jadervasonA fair question.
How could Thanos avoid the Omegas?
If that doesn't work, Thanos is notoriously one of the most durable characters of all time, barring uber elites such as Galactus and above level.
In any event, I don't think Darkseid's OE effect would work on Thanos.
IF, and the very low possibility that it might, the OE did at it's highest level work on Thanos, then Darkseid should win. But more often than not, I suspect Thanos will win due to Darkseid's poor recent showings.
Overall though, I think they are very close
They're definitely very close. I don't think either could utilize any method against the other without a significant struggle. Problem is, Darkseid's been something of a laughing boy and Thanos has had his moments of emo-dom.
In my opinion, one of them would LOSE this fight. The other would not have "won."
Originally posted by jadervasonThanos is much higher on the food chain here. Darkseid is at top tier status nowadays. He couldnt beat Thanos once out of 10.
They're definitely very close. I don't think either could utilize any method against the other without a significant struggle. Problem is, Darkseid's been something of a laughing boy and Thanos has had his moments of emo-dom.In my opinion, one of them would LOSE this fight. The other would not have "won."
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I can't believe the ignorance displayed in this thread. First of all, anyone saying that the power gem doesn't do anything? Um, explain then why the Champion was able to destroy a planet with the power gem, but lose to She-hulk without it? Sure, it means nothing...Thor with the Power Gem >> Superman strength
Thanos has never lost a physical fight
Thanos has WAY fewer losses than Darkseid has.Thanos has taken energy blasts from Tyrant, Omega (Galactus/Thanos clone), Beyonder, Odin and many more and survived.
Thanos Mind raped the Beyonder and left him/her sitting in it's own stupidity.
He has accomplished more than Darkseid in his career as well, not only securing the vaunted Infinity Gauntlet, but the Heart of the Universe Itself.
He has made a fool of Mephisto, he has Saved and nearly destroyed the Universe.
I respect Darkseid, but he has worse defeats than Thanos has ever dreamed of.
One last check....
Darkseid = loses to Superman
Thanos = pwns Thor and Thing at the same time, and pwns Surfer every time...
Thor with the PG would be approaching Superman strength. He didn't do anything that is out of Superman's strength range. Now did he?
Thanos also has no feats that compare to Darksied's high end feats. Thanos lost to Odin. He lost to Tyrant and he had a power up. He got bitched by Galactus. He was getting his ass beat by Thor. He got bitched by Morg. He was made to bleed by gamora and wolverine. He got hurt in a black hole.
Last I checked, surfer was an idiot who fought like an idiot around thanos, and thor fights like and idiot most of the time.
Originally posted by fangirl101Yes he went through the likes of Dr Strange,Maxam,the Silver Surfer,and the I Watch. Superman cant even beat up two bumbling idiots by the names of Kalibak and Mantis.
Thor with the PG would be approaching Superman strength. He didn't do anything that is out of Superman's strength range. Now did he?Thanos also has no feats that compare to Darksied's high end feats. Thanos lost to Odin. He lost to Tyrant and he had a power up. He got bitched by Galactus. He was getting his ass beat by Thor. He got bitched by Morg. He was made to bleed by gamora and wolverine. He got hurt in a black hole.
Last I checked, surfer was an idiot who fought like an idiot around thanos, and thor fights like and idiot most of the time.
Name these feats that Thanos cant touch. Then Ill start talking about Darkseid's low feats. Surfer doesnt fight like an idiot he just isnt in Thanos league and if you read marvel you would be aware of this. Surfer was oneshotted by Odin and crushed by Tyrant. How did Thanos do in those two fights? Better me thinks.
Name the high feats.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombDarkseid has....two losses against Superman.Thanos has never lost a physical fightHe's also never fought anyone with Superman lvl strength.....
[quote]Thanos has WAY fewer losses than Darkseid has.
Thanos has taken energy blasts from Tyrant, Omega (Galactus/Thanos clone), Beyonder, Odin and many more and survived.Lol, he fought Tyrant with an orb, Omega was shit and had no impressive feats, the Beyonder he fought was helluva pathetic and Odin was completely owning him(btw Odin may not even be as powerful as many claim, ton of his so called feats appear to be narrative hyperbole.)You need to try and make friends with "context", you don't seem to know him very well.
Thanos Mind raped the Beyonder and left him/her sitting in it's own stupidity.Yes, an incarnation of the Beyonder that didn't do anything, to suggest he/she was even above herald level.....
He has accomplished more than Darkseid in his career as well, not only securing the vaunted Infinity Gauntlet, but the Heart of the Universe Itself.Wow how impressive! Feats that have no relevance to a standard Kmc versus match...
He has made a fool of Mephisto, he has Saved and nearly destroyed the Universe.Lulz, everyone from my mentally handicapped uncle has made a fool of Mephisto.....
I respect Darkseid, but he has worse defeats than Thanos has ever dreamed of.Ko-sinez he lost 2 teh Sooperman!
One last check....Lulz at this analogy. Do yourself a favor and read up on Darkseid for yourself, you don't know jackshit about him.......
Darkseid = loses to Superman
Thanos = pwns Thor and Thing at the same time, and pwns Surfer every time... [/B]
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomYet Superman has been beaten down by Kalibak. He has also been raped by Doomsday and Henshaw with his rings. He hasnt beaten Orion on his own. He has never shown dominance over Black Adam. There are lots of characters Superman struggles and outright loses against that Thanos would outright beat down.
He's also never fought anyone with Superman lvl strength.....
Darkseid has....two losses against Superman.Lol, he fought Tyrant with an orb, Omega was shit and had no impressive feats, the Beyonder he fought was helluva pathetic and Odin was completely owning him(btw Odin may not even be as powerful as many claim, ton of his so called feats appear to be narrative hyperbole.)You need to try and make friends with "context", you don't seem to know him very well.
Yes, an incarnation of the Beyonder that didn't do anything, to suggest he/she was even above herald level.....
Wow how impressive! Feats that have no relevance to a standard Kmc versus match...
Lulz, everyone from my mentally handicapped uncle has made a fool of Mephisto.....
Ko-sinez he lost 2 teh Sooperman!
Lulz at this analogy. Do yourself a favor and read up on Darkseid for yourself, you don't know jackshit about him.......
Thanos has tussled with Hulk and Drax. Hulk has enough strength feats to out him up there with Superman. He also fought Thor who had the power gem who amped himself far more than a regular Superman.
Ok if you could prove Superman can dominate Orion,Black Adam,or virtually any other top tier in the dcu universe the youd have a point. He couldnt even beat down WW with a sunamp the same way he beat down Darkseid.
A beyonder described as having infinite power. The only way anyone beat this being is through mind attacks. Thanos actually hurt her physically.
Again just because the truth hurts and Darkseid is no more than a top tier dont cry foul to me. he cant even beat Superman on his own anymore. Lets go over Darkseid battles. He was losing and being dominated by Raker(he cut off his omega powers easily with his ring),Superman raped him once,with help raped him again,fled from Superman,heart ripped out by Orion,raped in battle by Doomsday,oneshotted by the Spectre.
Odin>>>>Darkseid. Darkseid couldnt last very long here. So downplay him in anger if you want because Thanos is way beyond a top tier which is where classic Darkseid ended up at. 🙂
Omega was more impressive than Sivva who was beaten by two beings and easily. Look how many characters took out Omega. LOL.
Thanos>Darkseid=Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112And yet Thanos has never shown any physical feats that match Superman's best. Way to to misread me Quan. First of all, powered up Kalibak(which you failed to mention) was in no way a weak character. I find it hilarious how you try to make baseless assumption's, on how a certain characters performance would be a low one. There was nothing to suggest that Kalibak being able to best Supes, is black card on his behalf. Hell you probably can't prove that Thanos is stronger(physically) than Kalibak, without providing some kind of lame abc logic analogy. Like "Ds is a weakling, therefor anything powered or beaten by him can lose to Thanos as well"...like always
Yet Superman has been beaten down by Kalibak. He has also been raped by Doomsday and Henshaw with his rings. He hasnt beaten Orion on his own. He has never shown dominance over Black Adam. There are lots of characters Superman struggles and outright loses against that Thanos would outright beat down.
Thanos has tussled with Hulk and Drax. Hulk has enough strength feats to out him up there with Superman. He also fought Thor who had the power gem who amped himself far more than a regular Superman.Base strength Hulk is [b]nowhere near Superman physically, so don't try to play it off like really is. And Thanos needed tech to save his ass against Thor, who was at best a transcendent leveler. Also Thor didn't beat anyone with Supes level of physical strength. I love how you'll name out Thanos's high showings, as if they're his average, and discredit Supes and Ds's whenever there mentioned. You usually reference one of their lowest showings to prove how inferior they are, in a attempt to demean and flat out ignore evidence. Any respectful debator could play that game, of course they wouldn't want to be viewed as bias and hypocritical........
Ok if you could prove Superman can dominate Orion,Black Adam,or virtually any other top tier in the dcu universe the youd have a point. He couldnt even beat down WW with a sunamp the same way he beat down Darkseid.That's because those characters are that damn powerful.😬
A beyonder described as having infinite power. The only way anyone beat this being is through mind attacks. Thanos actually hurt her physically.Wow infinite powerz! Well that statement is completely contradicted by accurate on panel feats. I guess if we can take laughable statements over true on panel feats, then we can validate Sentry being able to stalemate Galactus, just because it makes Quanchi happy. 🙂
Again just because the truth hurts and Darkseid is no more than a top tier dont cry foul to me.Well smart one I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. dur
he cant even beat Superman on his own anymore. Lets go over Darkseid battles. He was losing and being dominated by Raker(he cut off his omega powers easily with his ring),Superman raped him once,with help raped him again,fled from Superman,heart ripped out by Orion,raped in battle by Doomsday,oneshotted by the Spectre.Why do you feel the need to repeat of these feats? They've been shot down and debunked, yet within a day or 2 you'll go back to referencing them. Do you have alzheimer's or something, because you seem to forget that those arguments are invalid pieces of crap.
Odin>>>>Darkseid. Darkseid couldnt last very long here. So downplay him in anger if you want because Thanos is way beyond a top tier which is where classic Darkseid ended up at. 🙂Odin doesn't impress me(and the reason why is something I'm saving for a thread I'm making), though I do believe he can eat Thanos for lunch....which he did.....But of course because he's Thanos and he withstood Odins blast for about a few minutes, it's the most impressive feat since Sentry stalemated Galactus.... 🙄
Omega was more impressive than Sivva who was beaten by two beings and easily. Look how many characters took out Omega. LOL.What does Sivva have to do with anything?
Darkseid>Thanos>Superman.Yes I agree.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomI'm sorry, I don't respond to ignorant fanboys. Type with some level of human intelligence and I *may* respond to you. And by human, I should clarify that I mean of adult intellect level.
He's also never fought anyone with Superman lvl strength.....
Darkseid has....two losses against Superman.Lol, he fought Tyrant with an orb, Omega was shit and had no impressive feats, the Beyonder he fought was helluva pathetic and Odin was completely owning him(btw Odin may not even be as powerful as many claim, ton of his so called feats appear to be narrative hyperbole.)You need to try and make friends with "context", you don't seem to know him very well.
Yes, an incarnation of the Beyonder that didn't do anything, to suggest he/she was even above herald level.....
Wow how impressive! Feats that have no relevance to a standard Kmc versus match...
Lulz, everyone from my mentally handicapped uncle has made a fool of Mephisto.....
Ko-sinez he lost 2 teh Sooperman!
Lulz at this analogy. Do yourself a favor and read up on Darkseid for yourself, you don't know jackshit about him.......
Originally posted by fangirl101No, he would be past Superman level strength. Superman fought Thor in JLA/Avengers, and they fought a physical fight. And actually, Thor used less of his powers than Superman, which is why he lost. Yet Superman even said that Thor was the single toughest opponent he'd ever fought. Thor isn't as strong as Superman, that's why he barely lost a physical battle. With the Power Gem, he is far past Superman's strength level.
Thor with the PG would be approaching Superman strength.
He didn't do anything that is out of Superman's strength range. Now did he?Yes he did, he stalemated Thanos physically, something Thor had never done prior. Superman man-handles Darkseid physically, while Thanos can hold his own against VERY amped Thor. Again, the Power gem allowed The Champion to Obliterate a planet. Without the gem he lost to She-hulk.
I've given examples. Why don't you return the favor and give me a feat that is impressive from Darkseid.
Thanos also has no feats that compare to Darksied's high end feats.
Thanos lost to Odin.So would Darkseid. And Considering that Odin and beings like Seth that have blown up galaxies with their fights, that is not a bad Showing. Thanos didn't lose that bad either, as he was going to keep fighting before Warlock, Bill and Sif broke it up.
He lost to Tyrant and he had a power up.Tyrant was around Galactus level at the time, and Thanos didn't really lose, he actually just wanted to see what he could do.
He got bitched by Galactus.So would Darkseid. Darkseid couldn't even erase Galactus with his OE, Galactus basically laughed at him.
He was getting his ass beat by Thor.No he wasn't, they were equal in physical combat, and he grew tired of it and put Thor in a block of pure force. Know the material before posting posting like a fanboy please.
He got bitched by Morg.No he didn't, he could have killed Morg and decided not to. What comic did you read?
He was made to bleed by gamora and wolverine.Ah, for once you are right. However, Darkseid was made to bleed by Batman. So your point is laughable.
He got hurt in a black hole.No he didn't, his ship was destroyed but he was completely fine.
Last I checked, surfer was an idiot who fought like an idiot around thanos, and thor fights like and idiot most of the time.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomUhm all of these characters are from separate universes. I can tell you though that Kalibak and from his appearances that he isnt a major and competent threat. Darkseid is usually disappointed in him and knows he lacks intelligence and Orions warrior skills. Orion defeated Kalibak easily. Mantis gave up with the mere sight of Orion. Just because kalibak was powered up in one story it doesnt prove another writer honors that powerup especailly with how he was viewed in this comic. Did ya read it?
And yet Thanos has never shown any physical feats that match Superman's best. Way to to misread me Quan. First of all, powered up Kalibak(which you failed to mention) was in no way a weak character. I find it hilarious how you try to make baseless assumption's, on how a certain characters performance would be a low one. There was nothing to suggest that Kalibak being able to best Supes, is black card on his behalf. Hell you probably can't prove that Thanos is stronger(physically) than Kalibak, without providing some kind of lame abc logic analogy. Like "Ds is a weakling, therefor anything powered or beaten by him can lose to Thanos as well"...like alwaysBase strength Hulk is [b]nowhere
near Superman physically, so don't try to play it off like really is. And Thanos needed tech to save his ass against Thor, who was at best a transcendent leveler. Also Thor didn't beat anyone with Supes level of physical strength. I love how you'll name out Thanos's high showings, as if they're his average, and discredit Supes and Ds's whenever there mentioned. You usually reference one of their lowest showings to prove how inferior they are, in a attempt to demean and flat out ignore evidence. Any respectful debator could play that game, of course they wouldn't want to be viewed as bias and hypocritical........That's because those characters are that damn powerful.😬
Wow infinite powerz! Well that statement is completely contradicted by accurate on panel feats. I guess if we can take laughable statements over true on panel feats, then we can validate Sentry being able to stalemate Galactus, just because it makes Quanchi happy. 🙂
Well smart one I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. dur
Why do you feel the need to repeat of these feats? They've been shot down and debunked, yet within a day or 2 you'll go back to referencing them. Do you have alzheimer's or something, because you seem to forget that those arguments are invalid pieces of crap.
Odin doesn't impress me(and the reason why is something I'm saving for a thread I'm making), though I do believe he can eat Thanos for lunch....which he did.....But of course because he's Thanos and he withstood Odins blast for about a few minutes, it's the most impressive feat since Sentry stalemated Galactus.... 🙄
What does Sivva have to do with anything?
Yes I agree. [/B]
I never said Ds is a weakling, he is however a top tier nowadays. Precrisis days are a long time ago and things have changed drastically. If you noticed you were the only one who gave Darkseid a win against Thor and Superman in a thread every laughed at because it was pure spite. And you wonder why some call you a fanboy.
Hulk has feats in the same league as Supermans. Hulk can get stronger as well and he really has no limit so dont play it off like Superman is so much stronger because he isnt.
Thor beat Durok the demolishes ass wit his bare hands. He was hammerless. He also beat Mangog. Thor also beat Doomsday in the canon crossover jla/avengers. This is after hunter and prey. 💃
Sivva has to do with the fact that you mentioned Omega as not being that impressive, Sivva was a joke who was dealt with easily by Superman and Orion. Sivaa was less impressive than Omega.
These feats havent been debunked. Go ahead and ignore what I post yet still respond to me even though you have nothing.
You say Thanos needed tech to save his ass against Thor. Darkseid needed jimmy olsen to save his ass from a top tier. Look at what Thor did in that story arc and then look at Superman and tell me whose more powerful.
You say Odin beat Thanos' ass. Well Superman beat the shit out of Darkseid in apokolips now to actuall say i quit. Thanos didnt quit against a much more powerful opponent. Doomsday raped Darkseid in 2 panels or so. Doomsday isnt all that impressive either. Odin>Doomsday. Thor whipped Doomsdays ass in jal/avengers and its canon bro. 🙂
Thanos easily beats very strong,powerful opponents and yet you act like he has no lifting feats. Neither does Darkseid. Except Thanos trounces top tiers while Darkseid needs help to defeat some.
Again I would like to hear you name some of Darkseids high feats that puts him in the league with Thanos. The floor is yours back up your case or dont bother responding.