Thanos vs Darkseid(the final time before final crisis)

Started by quanchi11220 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
one only has to look at the whole picture.

Superman used to lose to DS. All Precrisis stories are now canon.

That means that DS was at some point stronger than precrisis superman. who is now regular superman again. what ever.

superman was still losing to ds in superman batman until wonder woman showed up. at that point, ds was still far stronger as he withstood superman's assualt with no effect. and then ***** smacked superman out of the barn.

now superman and darksied only had one encounter where they fought with no outside interference what so ever. that was in apok now.

in death of the new gods, ds says, orion, he and superman are peers of sorts in the physical department.

superman has been growing in power. Superman simply is far stronger than a top tier. thus he is at least around thanos lvl in strength.

that would mean so is DS. since DS has other powers that dwarf thanos's other powers, he would win.

I look at the big picture you however dont seem to.

So at least you admit you cling to stories over 20 years old. Superman is still comparable to Orion,Black Adam,Henshaw,Hal Jordan,etc. He doesnt display any dominance over any of these characters yet you claim hes grown in power. He may have impressive feats but he is till relative to other dc top tiers when compared directly against them.

He was knocked senseless in dong the same series you referenced.

Superman wasnt losing to Darkseid he just had help with the omega beams. Superman also destroyed Darkseid when he was sunamped which was much worse than WW when she went one on one with a sunamped Superman. All you have are weak excuses as I pull out evidence to expose your biased views.

You are ignoring when darkseid in countdown 3 used Olsen to bail him out of a tussle with Superman. Smart use of his powers but it shows he cant beat him easily at all and he will use any advantage he has.

In apokolips now Superman actually made darkseid quit the battle. He was so utterly shamed. So what did he do when he got his source powers back. He turned tailed and ran from Superman dircetly following when he received his powers back. 😬

Again where is it that you get Superman is equal to Thanos in the physical department. You dont even reference anything that makes you feel this way just your biased views. What happened to Thanos that makes you feel this way? Back up what you say and dont just make biased statements with nothing backing it up. Thats why cpt space bomb wont even debate with you.

Just stating that Thanos has never met anyone like Superman is horrible debating. Draw a parallel for once or concede.

Km agrees and he made darkseids respect thread.

Your bias is bleeding through your posts.

Yeah most of the respect threads I make are characters that deserve more credit then they get. Doesn't mean I'm a huge fan of theirs.

Hell even Alpha Flight arn't my favorite characters

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah most of the respect threads I make are characters that deserve more credit then they get. Doesn't mean I'm a huge fan of theirs.

Hell even Alpha Flight arn't my favorite characters

I figured that, most on here still dont think I respect Darkseid but I do. He is in my top five favorite characters.

I used to think this matchup was much closer but nowadays think Thanos would win easily due to all of Darkseid's latest low showings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I look at the big picture you however dont seem to.

So at least you admit you cling to stories over 20 years old. Superman is still comparable to Orion,Black Adam,Henshaw,Hal Jordan,etc. He doesnt display any dominance over any of these characters yet you claim hes grown in power. He may have impressive feats but he is till relative to other dc top tiers when compared directly against them.

He was knocked senseless in dong the same series you referenced.

Superman wasnt losing to Darkseid he just had help with the omega beams. Superman also destroyed Darkseid when he was sunamped which was much worse than WW when she went one on one with a sunamped Superman. All you have are weak excuses as I pull out evidence to expose your biased views.

You are ignoring when darkseid in countdown 3 used Olsen to bail him out of a tussle with Superman. Smart use of his powers but it shows he cant beat him easily at all and he will use any advantage he has.

In apokolips now Superman actually made darkseid quit the battle. He was so utterly shamed. So what did he do when he got his source powers back. He turned tailed and ran from Superman dircetly following when he received his powers back. 😬

Again where is it that you get Superman is equal to Thanos in the physical department. You dont even reference anything that makes you feel this way just your biased views. What happened to Thanos that makes you feel this way? Back up what you say and dont just make biased statements with nothing backing it up. Thats why cpt space bomb wont even debate with you.

Just stating that Thanos has never met anyone like Superman is horrible debating. Draw a parallel for once or concede.

Km agrees and he made darkseids respect thread.

Your bias is bleeding through your posts.


i could care less what captain space bomb or what the hell ever will and wont' do. if he were worth my debate time, I would debate him. he's obviously as biased as you are. superman has greater strength feats than thanos, thus he is at least eqaul to thanos in that department. hell thanos uses energy fist many times when he knocks down a top tier.

ummm...doomsday never lifted anything but nobody is doubting his strength. he like thanos is judged on the characters that fell before him.

Originally posted by fangirl101
i could care less what captain space bomb or what the hell ever will and wont' do. if he were worth my debate time, I would debate him. he's obviously as biased as you are. superman has greater strength feats than thanos, thus he is at least eqaul to thanos in that department. hell thanos uses energy fist many times when he knocks down a top tier.
Double standard eh?

Ok Ill play along even though this is ridiculous.

Darkseid tries to use his omega beams to beat opponents all the time. So according to your theory he is quite weak. He needs strength feats. I want to see Darkseid strength feats or him beating someone senseless with his fists only as he usually relies on omega beams or blasts or shadow demons or his apokoliptian forces.

Darkseid has been beaten stupid by Supermans fists while he hasnt beaten Superman senseless in over 20 years.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ummm...doomsday never lifted anything but nobody is doubting his strength. he like thanos is judged on the characters that fell before him.
Again according to his logic you would be correct as he doesnt have any lifting feats at all. His logic works against him and doesnt make a whole lot of sense does it? It is plain to see but like I said I will play along as it amuses me to throw his logic right back at him and watch him squirm.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ummm...doomsday never lifted anything but nobody is doubting his strength. he like thanos is judged on the characters that fell before him.

and what are the lifting feats of the characters that fell before thanos? thor moved a magical snake? hulk held a mountain?

Superman pushed warworld and threw a ship the size of a moon.

Originally posted by fangirl101
and what are the lifting feats of the characters that fell before thanos? thor moved a magical snake? hulk held a mountain?

Superman pushed warworld and threw a ship the size of a moon.

This shows the vast ignorance that you display. Do you think thats all they have done? 😂

Again what lifting feats does Doomsday have? He beat Superman but doesnt have his lifting feats. 😂 This line of logic is really out there but back up your claim. Because unless a certain character has a lifting feat you dont consider them that strong.

What lifting feats does darkseid have?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This shows the vast ignorance that you display. Do you think thats all they have done? 😂

Again what lifting feats does Doomsday have? He beat Superman but doesnt have his lifting feats. 😂 This line of logic is really out there but back up your claim. Because unless a certain character has a lifting feat you dont consider them that strong.

What lifting feats does darkseid have?

and the point was missed.

Originally posted by fangirl101
and what are the lifting feats of the characters that fell before thanos? thor moved a magical snake? hulk held a mountain?

Superman pushed warworld and threw a ship the size of a moon.

thor not only killed the midgard sepent but also busted a whole in exitar the exterminator using pure strength. before that happened, the last thing mighty enough to create a wound in a celestial's armour was the odinsword.

and beating the hulk in personal combat every time they met is quite the feat, superman got killed by doomsday when they first met and only till recently doomsday was a nightmare opponent for superman.

and the nail in the coffin....."DON'T"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor not only killed the midgard sepent but also busted a whole in exitar the exterminator using pure strength. before that happened, the last thing mighty enough to create a wound in a celestial's armour was the odinsword.

and beating the hulk in personal combat every time they met is quite the feat, superman got killed by doomsday when they first met and only till recently doomsday was a nightmare opponent for superman.

and the nail in the coffin....."DON'T"

thor busted a hole in exitar with pure strength? no hammer or nothing? wow what a feat. LMAO.

beating the hulk in personal combat is that impressive huh? wow. then juggernaut is clearly thanos lvl in strength since hulk could never beat him. thanos never put energy around his hands when he fought the hulk huh? the hulk was at his enraged lvls when he fought thanos? was he? i need to know these things to make an accurate judgement. not that it matters, superman is still around thanos lvl in strength. DS on average is still a lil better than superman. thus DS and thanos in MY opinion strength wise are around the same lvl.

Originally posted by fangirl101
thor busted a hole in exitar with pure strength? no hammer or nothing? wow what a feat. LMAO.

beating the hulk in personal combat is that impressive huh? wow. then juggernaut is clearly thanos lvl in strength since hulk could never beat him. thanos never put energy around his hands when he fought the hulk huh? the hulk was at his enraged lvls when he fought thanos? was he? i need to know these things to make an accurate judgement. not that it matters, superman is still around thanos lvl in strength. DS on average is still a lil better than superman. thus DS and thanos in MY opinion strength wise are around the same lvl.

your ignorance was funny before but now it is pathetic.

"thor busted a hole in exitar with pure strength? no hammer or nothing? wow what a feat. LMAO. "

this is a new low.^

Originally posted by fangirl101
thor busted a hole in exitar with pure strength? no hammer or nothing? wow what a feat. LMAO.

beating the hulk in personal combat is that impressive huh? wow. then juggernaut is clearly thanos lvl in strength since hulk could never beat him. thanos never put energy around his hands when he fought the hulk huh? the hulk was at his enraged lvls when he fought thanos? was he? i need to know these things to make an accurate judgement. not that it matters, superman is still around thanos lvl in strength. DS on average is still a lil better than superman. thus DS and thanos in MY opinion strength wise are around the same lvl.

You make posters want to pull their hairs out

You dont back anything up that you claim and run together nonsensical jargon

Its a wonder why most ignore you

You also criticize thans while Darkseid rarely puts his dukes up and doesn even like to fight!

You are as bias as they come!

Originally posted by I love DC
You make posters want to pull their hairs out

You dont back anything up that you claim and run together nonsensical jargon

Its a wonder why most ignore you

You also criticize thans while Darkseid rarely puts his dukes up and doesn even like to fight!

You are as bias as they come!

thats why nvr was banned the first time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thats why nvr was banned the first time.
Who is nvr?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
your ignorance was funny before but now it is pathetic.

"thor busted a hole in exitar with pure strength? no hammer or nothing? wow what a feat. LMAO. "

this is a new low.^

a new low? i'm simply trying to see where the strength only feat comes in. please, did he hit the armor with his bare hands and crack it open? or did he wrap his hammer in the belt of strength. please elaborate on this strength only feat.

Originally posted by I love DC
You make posters want to pull their hairs out

You dont back anything up that you claim and run together nonsensical jargon

Its a wonder why most ignore you

You also criticize thans while Darkseid rarely puts his dukes up and doesn even like to fight!

You are as bias as they come!

orly? so then tell me, how is thor cracking open the celestial's armor a STRENGTH FEAT. show me the way. show me my faults.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thats why nvr was banned the first time.
someone got banned for ignoring logic? making posters want to pull thier hair out? critizing characters that they don't like? as biased as they come? I could name 10 posters right now who do that with one in particular. why aren't they banned? why did this never get banned then for the same thing that i've seen since i joined this board a couple of weeks ago?

Originally posted by fangirl101
orly? so then tell me, how is thor cracking open the celestial's armor a STRENGTH FEAT. show me the way. show me my faults.
Why would answer anything as you avoid quans and psychos questions like he plague

You havent named one Darkseid strength feat or anything
you say quan attacks low feats but you just attack the feats other posters bring forth about other characters than the two in this thread/

Tell us why you think Darkseid is so strong or shut up