Thanos vs Darkseid(the final time before final crisis)

Originally posted by I love DC
Why would answer anything as you avoid quans and psychos questions like he plague

You havent named one Darkseid strength feat or anything
you say quan attacks low feats but you just attack the feats other posters bring forth about other characters than the two in this thread/

Tell us why you think Darkseid is so strong or shut up

darksied withstood superman's attack/speed blitz in superman/batman to NO effect. it wasn't until after he injured himself that superman got the upperhand thanks to interference from wonder woman.

darksied has embarrassed orion on some occasions and stalemated him on others in hand to hand.

DS has embarrassed superman, stalemated him and lost one real time.

Orion has stalemated superman in hand to hand every time they have met according to mr. miracle.

Superman has the most strength feats of any character. especially since precrisis counts and byrne's superman is retconned away. this would mean DS is uber strong.

now thanos's strength feats come in the form of fighting thor, who is NOt as strong as superman, beating the thing, she hulk can beat him, wrapping energy around his fist and pounding on guys. get the point? there is no evidence to suggest he is far beyond superman or ds in strength, which was my main point in the first place.

have a nice nite.

Originally posted by fangirl101
a new low? i'm simply trying to see where the strength only feat comes in. please, did he hit the armor with his bare hands and crack it open? or did he wrap his hammer in the belt of strength. please elaborate on this strength only feat.

make whatever half witted excuse you want for that.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

make whatever half witted excuse you want for that.

He had the Belt of Strength at the time...

Anyway, if he didn't. It can't be ruled out, as Thor always has his hammer in fights with Thanos. And almost always has his hammer in comics.

srug

at nvr-

ummm. did i not say that the last thing to penetrate celestial armour was the odinsword? celestials have been nuked before without the merest scratch or reaction by the celestial. thor is extremely formidable, but it seems only you doubt that.

thanos beat that same thor(with the thing as back up) so do the math.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
at nvr-

ummm. did i not say that the last thing to penetrate celestial armour was the odinsword? celestials have been nuked before without the merest scratch or reaction by the celestial. thor is extremely formidable, but it seems only you doubt that.

thanos beat that same thor(with the thing as back up) so do the math.

thanos beat thor with the belt of strength? he gave thor time to swing his hammer like that? thor is extremely formidable. i think he is more powerful over all than superman. but physically, i dont' see him being on the lvl of superman. thus i see thanos having a harder time putting superman down. especially since thor fights like a bozo against thanos.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
at nvr-

ummm. did i not say that the last thing to penetrate celestial armour was the odinsword?

Thor is the hardest hitter in the Herald category IMO.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist And a page or so before that, Thor was cracking Celestial armor under his own power...Thor is the hardest hitter in the Herald category IMO.

Originally posted by fangirl101
i mean it doesn't hurt that he has that handy indestructible hammer that moves at faster than light speed. we all know that momentum plays a big part in how hard something hits. just ask flash and that handy infinite mass punch of his. imagine if his fist were as hard as that hammer. no strength needed to hit that hard. just momentum and an unbreakable hammer. example. wonder woman made superman's ears bleed with her unbreakable bracers. certainly they hit harder than just her fist. same strength lvl, but harder surface.

What exactly are you getting at with this?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Umm... what?

What exactly are you getting at with this?

who is talking about the flash holding knuckle dusters? thor swung his hammer under his own power and brought it down on the celestial's dome, no "analogy" required.

Originally posted by fangirl101
that hitting someone hard with a hammer that flies faster than light speed and is indestructible can HARDLY be counted as a strength feat. especially since flash can hit as hard with an imp using speed. now if flash had indestructible fist, he'd be killing thanos lvl beings with one imp. a strength feat for thor would be physically over power the hulk with no hammer. or punching the hell out of something with nothing in hand. he and herc had a good strength feat when they shook the valley arm wrestling. that was a good strength only feat. one way to look at it is if you punch someone in the face. you may hurt them and bad. put on some brass knuckles. some strength but you now have a harder surface on your fist. you could kill them. now hit that same person with your fist while riding in a car as they stand there. you don't have to swing at all. you use the momentum of the car and the hardness of the knuckles. you would shatter thier skull with no strength needed at all.

Which makes your entire post highly irrelevant, unless Thor doesn't have his hammer.
And... Flash can crack Celestial armor?

Originally posted by fangirl101
darksied withstood superman's attack/speed blitz in superman/batman to NO effect. it wasn't until after he injured himself that superman got the upperhand thanks to interference from wonder woman.

darksied has embarrassed orion on some occasions and stalemated him on others in hand to hand.

DS has embarrassed superman, stalemated him and lost one real time.

Orion has stalemated superman in hand to hand every time they have met according to mr. miracle.

Superman has the most strength feats of any character. especially since precrisis counts and byrne's superman is retconned away. this would mean DS is uber strong.

now thanos's strength feats come in the form of fighting thor, who is NOt as strong as superman, beating the thing, she hulk can beat him, wrapping energy around his fist and pounding on guys. get the point? there is no evidence to suggest he is far beyond superman or ds in strength, which was my main point in the first place.

have a nice nite.

He was hidin in the barn. Darkseid lost physically to Superman

At no point did he have Superman beat physically

If you say he had Superman beat with anything other thn his beams you are crazy mister

So you just keep on twisting with your Superman is stronger than everyone ele weak routine

When has Darkseid beaten him with his fist alone?

Originally posted by I love DC
When has Darkseid beaten him with his fist alone?

ermm

Originally posted by psycho gundam
who is talking about the flash holding knuckle dusters? thor swung his hammer under his own power and brought it down on the celestial's dome, no "analogy" required.

Originally posted by I love DC
Darkseid started the fight with a snaek attack.

He was hidin in the barn. Darkseid lost physically to Superman

At no point did he have Superman beat physically

If you say he had Superman beat with anything other thn his beams you are crazy mister

So you just keep on twisting with your Superman is stronger than everyone ele weak routine

When has Darkseid beaten him with his fist alone?

Superman blitzed DS. full of anger. and his attack was met with a pimp smack. that will be all.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
After Superman got one-shotted by Black Racer (I believe he was also fighting before then as well), he woke up to fight some more, and then fought Darkseid immediately after, where he got three punched...

ermm

Originally posted by I love DC
how long ago and in what comic?

Forget the issue. Have it around here somewhere though...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You do realize that Thor always has his hammer vs Thanos, don't you?
It might not be pure strength, but it counts as hitting power (the only thing that matters, unless they are lifting shit). And Thor is the heaviest hitter in the herald category IMO.

Which makes your entire post highly irrelevant, unless Thor doesn't have his hammer.
And... Flash can crack Celestial armor?

give flash time to speed up to where thor's hammer was, and a pair of gloves that are indestructible in the same nature as thor's hammer, and he sure will have the same effect. i'm talking about strength. yes we know thor hits hard as hell. truly. one hit from his hammer made superman totally bleed. but if thor had time, to swing his hammer like he did against the celestial, building up momentum, superman would have died. thus the feat is not a strength feat. it's a momentum and density of the hammer feat.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
In Our Worlds At War.

Forget the issue. Have it around here somewhere though...