Wonderwoman vs WWH( fist fight)

Started by fangirl1019 pages

Originally posted by ultimatethor
.Now i know u are not serious.For heavens sake did u evn read the title of the thread? Fist fight no equipment just fists. Hurl chunks of rock? Lasso him? And she certainly does not evn come remotely close to outclassing him in the physical departemnt.

Nextly is there any proof that she and superman were fighting at light speed? It seems you do not at all know what im trying to debate. I do not challenge her ability to block objects at whatever speed, Howevr because of her lack of showings in which it can be proven that she is actually engaging another person in a fight at the speeds you have been claiming then in no way should it be assumed that her battle speed is the same as her normal speed

so how did superman and wonder woman end up near the sun's surface in oh a couple of seconds or less if they weren't fighting at superspeeds? your guess is as good as mine since you say they weren't fighting at superspeeds. maybe they teleported. maybe they have twins. lmao.

Originally posted by smashyou
Show Gladiator fighting at those speeds, we need proof of her super speed so do you.

10/10?

Yeah fanboy alert alright.

I hope the forum treats you and the rest of the fanboys like the children you are. 🙂

wow wrong character to use. the scan of him fighting hyperon

Originally posted by fangirl101
so how did superman and wonder woman end up near the sun's surface in oh a couple of seconds or less if they weren't fighting at superspeeds? your guess is as good as mine since you say they weren't fighting at superspeeds. maybe they teleported. maybe they have twins. lmao.

I think wonderwoman can fight at super speeds and that the omac project feat shows that. However I could see someone saying that since supes was just holding onto her wrists and pulling her that it doesn't count.

thanks for not typing in caps anymore -senserly thankyou

WWHulk cant lose.

WWH

Originally posted by fangirl101
so how did superman and wonder woman end up near the sun's surface in oh a couple of seconds or less if they weren't fighting at superspeeds? your guess is as good as mine since you say they weren't fighting at superspeeds. maybe they teleported. maybe they have twins. lmao.

Hmm, Did it ever occur to you that the feat is really of no relevance? I guess not( not surprised) That feat certainly shows great flying speed but in the context of this disccussion is nearly useless. It is painfully obvious that both of them were moving forward hence the reason that they were able to get to the sun in a few seconds. How many blows were even thrown? You really do not understand what battle speed is as u have provided another laughable example. You asked the foolish question of how they were able to get to the sun in a few seconds. The simple answer is that THEY FLEW THERE. Wonderwoman and superman being able to fly to the sun in seconds helps ur argument in which way? Where is the proof of battle speed? Ur argument just gets weaker and weaker with each post as you continue to show ur inability to grasp a simple concept. 🙁

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Hmm, Did it ever occur to you that the feat is really of no relevance? I guess not( not surprised) That feat certainly shows great flying speed but in the context of this disccussion is nearly useless. It is painfully obvious that both of them were moving forward hence the reason that they were able to get to the sun in a few seconds. How many blows were even thrown? You really do not understand what battle speed is as u have provided another laughable example. You asked the foolish question of how they were able to get to the sun in a few seconds. The simple answer is that THEY FLEW THERE. Wonderwoman and superman being able to fly to the sun in seconds helps ur argument in which way? Where is the proof of battle speed? Ur argument just gets weaker and weaker with each post as you continue to show ur inability to grasp a simple concept. 🙁

sighs. if they were fighting from the earth to the sun, then that would mean they were battling while moving at super speeds. so you think they threw one punch while moving that fast? somethings that writer or artist should have to depict. unless a two year old simpleton is reading and can't put two and two together. it's like someone seeing wonder woman's hands flying at super speed to block bullets and can't see that it takes the same hand eye coordination and speed to be able to land that many blows. you mean to tell me that a woman who can block light speed attacks from multiple directions can't throw punches in the same manner? gobbdegook!!! and i didn't ask a foolish question. i was being as rediculous as the people who insist that wonder woman can't fly at light speed and that she can't fight at those speeds. when clearly she was. and has. the weaker debator would retreat to insults when they have nothing left to argue. would that be you?

ok lets attempt to end this now-

-did wonder woman defeat general wade eiling on her own, simple answer HELL NO.

-interchange wwh and eiling as they are almost the same and instead of a whole team backing her, it's one on one.

thread over......

Your credibility's over.

How do we know Hulks his level? Your opinion? Not worth allot from what I can tell.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ok lets attempt to end this now-

-did wonder woman defeat general wade eiling on her own, simple answer HELL NO.

-interchange wwh and eiling as they are almost the same and instead of a whole team backing her, it's one on one.

thread over......


um. wwh and eiling are not interchangeable. the war hulk does not have the adaptive abilities of the shaggy man. you are also trying to use a team setting in which characters generally operate at less than optimal ability in order to facilitate the team concept. case in point, thor on his own would be able to defeat most of the avengers villians on his own. in the team book, he acts like a moron. in wonder woman's own book, she held her own against doomsday who started as strong as the original and then grew in strength from there. all this while in the context of trying not to let innocents he harmed. in a forum fight, she could cut loose, use all of her speed and skill, and beat pretty much anyone who isn't faster and far far stronger. the hulk is no where near as fast, hell wonder woman can run as fast as some flashes. how the wwh is going to hit her is still up for question. thread over. this is the forum, not a comic.

Originally posted by Captain Angont
Your credibility's over.

How do we know Hulks his level? Your opinion? Not worth allot from what I can tell.

and your a sock with a grand total of 15 posts...
shaddap.

WWH...

👆

Originally posted by fangirl101
sighs. if they were fighting from the earth to the sun, then that would mean they were battling while moving at super speeds. so you think they threw one punch while moving that fast? somethings that writer or artist should have to depict. unless a two year old simpleton is reading and can't put two and two together. it's like someone seeing wonder woman's hands flying at super speed to block bullets and can't see that it takes the same hand eye coordination and speed to be able to land that many blows. you mean to tell me that a woman who can block light speed attacks from multiple directions can't throw punches in the same manner? gobbdegook!!! and i didn't ask a foolish question. i was being as rediculous as the people who insist that wonder woman can't fly at light speed and that she can't fight at those speeds. when clearly she was. and has. the weaker debator would retreat to insults when they have nothing left to argue. would that be you?

This is ridiculous. You saying that they were actually engaging each other in battle is based on pure speculation and nothing more as there is no proof of how many punches were thrown. This should be extremely obvious to anybody. Who is to say that they threw more than one punch? Who is to say that superman was not just using heat vison or ice breath the whole time? Who is to say that wonderwoman was not just behind him the whole time trying to lasso him? Really them battling can mean many things. Once again you have woefully failed to prove anything. As i said the way they got to the sun was through their flight speed and nothing else. Therefore they were flying towrds the sun the whole time which would make the so called light speed melee fight that you claim they had very difficult. You keep mentioning wonderwoman being able to run as fast as the flash, a fact which by now evn you should have realised is irrelevant. Indeed with wonderwomans ability to react to light speed attacks she should be able to initiate a speed blitz but the fact is that comics do not work like that. Thor has shown the ability to react to and block attacks from superfast beings but does not have enough showings in actual physical combat for us to simply grant him combat speed. The same goes for wonderwoman, who using real world logic should have good combat speed but because of her poor combat showings on panel, it can be said she does not. Trying to apply real world logic to comics is just foolish, because in comics we use on panel showings and not what should or should not be possible. I still wonder how you can say that WWh cant hit her when she is regularly hit by beings on his level of speed. Lastly, i have not resorted to insults and As for weak debating you take the cake.
1. Initially not evn knowing the specifics of the fight
2. Continously showing failure to grasp a simple concept( continuously EQUATING BATTLE SPEED AND TRAVEL SPEED)
3.Providing a bevy of irrelevant and out of context examples

Certainly not the signs of a great debator

Originally posted by ultimatethor
This is ridiculous. You saying that they were actually engaging each other in battle is based on pure speculation and nothing more as there is no proof of how many punches were thrown. This should be extremely obvious to anybody. Who is to say that they threw more than one punch? Who is to say that superman was not just using heat vison or ice breath the whole time? Who is to say that wonderwoman was not just behind him the whole time trying to lasso him? Really them battling can mean many things. Once again you have woefully failed to prove anything. As i said the way they got to the sun was through their flight speed and nothing else. Therefore they were flying towrds the sun the whole time which would make the so called light speed melee fight that you claim they had very difficult. You keep mentioning wonderwoman being able to run as fast as the flash, a fact which by now evn you should have realised is irrelevant. Indeed with wonderwomans ability to react to light speed attacks she should be able to initiate a speed blitz but the fact is that comics do not work like that. Thor has shown the ability to react to and block attacks from superfast beings but does not have enough showings in actual physical combat for us to simply grant him combat speed. The same goes for wonderwoman, who using real world logic should have good combat speed but because of her poor combat showings on panel, it can be said she does not. Trying to apply real world logic to comics is just foolish, because in comics we use on panel showings and not what should or should not be possible. I still wonder how you can say that WWh cant hit her when she is regularly hit by beings on his level of speed. Lastly, i have not resorted to insults and As for weak debating you take the cake.
1. Initially not evn knowing the specifics of the fight
2. Continously showing failure to grasp a simple concept( continuously EQUATING BATTLE SPEED AND TRAVEL SPEED)
3.Providing a bevy of irrelevant and out of context examples

Certainly not the signs of a great debator

dear dear dear. where do i begin.
Fact: wonder woman has on occasion blocked light speed attacks from multiple directions. this means she was moving her arms in punch like fashion with pin point accuracy and top tier hand eye coordination. of course if she is being attacked this would be COMBAT that she is in and thus, reacting at FTL speeds in COMBAT situations.
Let's look at a couple of things that may not be obvious to the casual wonder woman reader but, to one such as i, the fangirl101: it is plain as day. In the scan below, FLASH is asking what happened to wonder woman. this would indicate that she moved so fast, and he was preoccupied as well, as he didn't catch what happened to her. martian manhunter is using martian vision and gl is using his ring to make a telescope, illustrated by the telescopic green circle, to indicate that she is some distance off the planet. where am i going with this? well, wonder woman was fast enough to forcibly fight, as in combat, a white martian off world in less than a few seconds. she moved at faster than escape velocity, much faster, while battling a being who is described as strong and tuff as superman in the story arc. that is a combat speed feat. oh, and then she returns to the planet in less than a second flat after she beats up on primaid. another speed feat.

now, on to the next COMBAT speed feat. in the scan below, wonder woman is blocking pieces of the shattered god's light particles, in sustained combat. she's protecting herself and the other gods from the shattered god. and the shards are compared to the power of a small star. take a gander at her hands. they are moving at ftl speeds in a FIST position. if one didn't know that she was defending, it would look as if she were pummeling him. you know why? becuz it is no stretch at all, to see that she could pummel someone with the same speed and accuracy that she blocks. actually it would be easier as she would only have one target. when she's blocking, she has multiple targets in multiple directions.

in this next scan, wonder woman speed blitzes the uber powerful white demon.

in this next scan, please note the swoosh lines drawn about wonder woman. swoosh indicates some measure of speed. i'm not saying that it's light speed. but it's clear that she and superman are trading blows at an accelerated pace. this is another combat scene.

Now if you dont' think wonder woman can strike at superspeed, then take a gander at what she did with her foot while fighting doomsday superman

wonder woman moves at superspeed to fight a demon before superman can react IN COMBAT

need i go on, or have you had enough. it's clearly clear, that you didn't know that wonder woman has fought in superspeed mode. fangirl101, game, set, match!!!

Originally posted by fangirl101
dear dear dear. where do i begin.
Fact: wonder woman has on occasion blocked light speed attacks from multiple directions. this means she was moving her arms in punch like fashion with pin point accuracy and top tier hand eye coordination. of course if she is being attacked this would be COMBAT that she is in and thus, reacting at FTL speeds in COMBAT situations.
Let's look at a couple of things that may not be obvious to the casual wonder woman reader but, to one such as i, the fangirl101: it is plain as day. In the scan below, FLASH is asking what happened to wonder woman. this would indicate that she moved so fast, and he was preoccupied as well, as he didn't catch what happened to her. martian manhunter is using martian vision and gl is using his ring to make a telescope, illustrated by the telescopic green circle, to indicate that she is some distance off the planet. where am i going with this? well, wonder woman was fast enough to forcibly fight, as in combat, a white martian off world in less than a few seconds. she moved at faster than escape velocity, much faster, while battling a being who is described as strong and tuff as superman in the story arc. that is a combat speed feat. oh, and then she returns to the planet in less than a second flat after she beats up on primaid. another speed feat.

now, on to the next COMBAT speed feat. in the scan below, wonder woman is blocking pieces of the shattered god's light particles, in sustained combat. she's protecting herself and the other gods from the shattered god. and the shards are compared to the power of a small star. take a gander at her hands. they are moving at ftl speeds in a FIST position. if one didn't know that she was defending, it would look as if she were pummeling him. you know why? becuz it is no stretch at all, to see that she could pummel someone with the same speed and accuracy that she blocks. actually it would be easier as she would only have one target. when she's blocking, she has multiple targets in multiple directions.

in this next scan, wonder woman speed blitzes the uber powerful white demon.

in this next scan, please note the swoosh lines drawn about wonder woman. swoosh indicates some measure of speed. i'm not saying that it's light speed. but it's clear that she and superman are trading blows at an accelerated pace. this is another combat scene.

Now if you dont' think wonder woman can strike at superspeed, then take a gander at what she did with her foot while fighting doomsday superman

wonder woman moves at superspeed to fight a demon before superman can react IN COMBAT

need i go on, or have you had enough. it's clearly clear, that you didn't know that wonder woman has fought in superspeed mode. fangirl101, game, set, match!!!

I agree that it is game set match becuz you have not one a single game have lost nearly all the sets and are about to lose the match. However because you took the pains to post scans i have decided to slowly break down the scans and interpret them properly( at least the ones i can see)

Now in the first scan, it seems that wonderwoman flies into the air while martian manhunter flash and aquaman are fighting takes out the primaid and ( evn though it is not in the scan) flies back down. Now
unlike you would like to assume, this is not a combat speed feat. First of all notice that she FLIES UP THERE without the flash noticing. Martian manhunter and the green lantern then begin to watch the fight as she lassos him and i assume easily takes him out. She then flies back( evn though its not in the scan) in a second. It should be noted that there is no indication of the actual fight against primaid being at superspeed as we can clearly see that Martian manhunter and the flash and Aquaman are having a conversation in complete sentences while MM watches the fight. Certainly good flight speed but not sufficeint to prove battle speed.

As for the next feat well ive have gone over those before, the scans im requesting are of her actually engaging another being in physical combat at superspeed.

The third scan is purely laughable. You say wonderwoman blitzes him? Ha all that is shown is her ramming into him and pushing him. Sort of like what the sentry did to hulk in the WWH battle. How can you evn attempt to call that a blitz? 😆

The fourth scan is actually the most ridiculous of all. Swoosh lines? Are you freaking kidding? i can show you hulk fights, thor fights, spiderman fights and a countless number of other fights that have the same sort of swoosh lines. Using that as an indicator of speed is just plain foolish and nothing more. It is so vague that i dont evn know why i responded to it. 😂

The scan of her kicking whatever that is is just artistic rendition nothing else. How do you determine the speed of that? For heavens sake almost any street level has scans of them kicking/punching something that look like that. Jeez evn someone like the hulk has them. Another extremely laughable example

As for your last scan, it simply shows ur futile attempt to misinterpret a scan( i suspect deliberately)., Before superman can react? Superman back was turned and diana told him to watch out cuz she saw the thing coming and then attacked it. Heck there is no indication of superspeed evn let alone the combat speed im asking for. All she did was protect superman from getting cheap shotted. Evn the artistic depiction does not imply that she used superspeed, How can anyone in there right mind evn say it shows great combat speed? 😕

You have made it plainly obvious that you really do not understand the concept of combat speed. What im talking about is examples of her actually engaging someone in physical combat that can be proven to be at superspeed and NOT JUST ARTISTIC DEPICTIONS. Heck it seems u cant evn interpret the artistic depictions well. Aside maybe the first scan ( which is only partially stupid as it does show good flight speed) the rest of the scans you posted are either irrelevant, Terribly vague and misnterpreted or just plain laughable. Really you have succeded in nothing but worsening ur argument. As this is getting tiring i appeal to anyone ELSE who may have scans of wonderwoman actually fighting at superspeed to post them because it is obvious that fan girl101 simply cannot grasp that concept.

Goooo nvr!

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I agree that it is game set match becuz you have not one a single game have lost nearly all the sets and are about to lose the match. However because you took the pains to post scans i have decided to slowly break down the scans and interpret them properly( at least the ones i can see)

Now in the first scan, it seems that wonderwoman flies into the air while martian manhunter flash and aquaman are fighting takes out the primaid and ( evn though it is not in the scan) flies back down. Now
unlike you would like to assume, this is not a combat speed feat. First of all notice that she FLIES UP THERE without the flash noticing. Martian manhunter and the green lantern then begin to watch the fight as she lassos him and i assume easily takes him out. She then flies back( evn though its not in the scan) in a second. It should be noted that there is no indication of the actual fight against primaid being at superspeed as we can clearly see that Martian manhunter and the flash and Aquaman are having a conversation in complete sentences while MM watches the fight. Certainly good flight speed but not sufficeint to prove battle speed.

As for the next feat well ive have gone over those before, the scans im requesting are of her actually engaging another being in physical combat at superspeed.

The third scan is purely laughable. You say wonderwoman blitzes him? Ha all that is shown is her ramming into him and pushing him. Sort of like what the sentry did to hulk in the WWH battle. How can you evn attempt to call that a blitz? 😆

The fourth scan is actually the most ridiculous of all. Swoosh lines? Are you freaking kidding? i can show you hulk fights, thor fights, spiderman fights and a countless number of other fights that have the same sort of swoosh lines. Using that as an indicator of speed is just plain foolish and nothing more. It is so vague that i dont evn know why i responded to it. 😂

As for your last scan, it simply shows ur futile attempt to misinterpret a scan( i suspect deliberately)., Before superman can react? Superman back was turned and diana told him to watch out cuz she saw the thing coming and then attacked it. Heck there is no indication of superspeed evn let alone the combat speed im asking for. All she did was protect superman from getting cheap shotted. Evn the artistic depiction does not imply that she used superspeed, How can anyone in there right mind evn say it shows great combat speed? 😕

You have made it plainly obvious that you really do not understand the concept of combat speed. What im talking about is examples of her actually engaging someone in physical combat that can be proven to be at superspeed and NOT JUST ARTISTIC DEPICTIONS. Heck it seems u cant evn interpret the artistic depictions well. Aside maybe the first scan ( which is only partially stupid as it does show good flight speed) the rest of the scans you posted are either irrelevant, Terribly vague and misnterpreted or just plain laughable. Really you have succeded in nothing but worsening ur argument. As i this is getting tiring i appeal to anyone ELSE who may have scans of wonderwoman actually fighting at superspeed to post them because it is obvious that fan girl101 simply cannot grasp that concept.

actually you don't understand combat speed dear. one doesn't get swoosh lines fighting superman unless one is keeping up with him. now you try and keep up with me. you also failed to mention that wonder deflecting the shattered god IS IN COMBAT. THAT IS A COMBAT Manuever. defense is PART OF FREAKING COMBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or don't you see her hands moving faster than light?

I see you failed to mention how she uses superspeed to blizt apart the planes system. cleary an attack move that shows her moving at superspeed.

now as for the martian fight, i gave no indication of the flight speed, i said that she obviously fought the martian all the way to where ever the hell they were. they didn't say, oh, i'll race you to outerspace and then we can fight. can you imagine them moving faster than escape velocity and only throwing one punch. WTF.

it's clearly painfully obvious that you just don't like wonder woman, becuz anyone else, with any kind of objective thinking, can see, that she is using superspeed during a fight. oh and one more thing, wonder woman gets her speed directly from hermes god of speed. to an exact mirror. and HE DOES has battle speed feats. as a matter of fact, i think she even fought him once.

AGAIN, DEFENSE IS PART OF COMBAT!!!!!!!!!!!! he throws a punch, i block it, i throw a punch, all part of combat. fangirl101 kicks ass again.

Wow, I Nvr thought that Fangirl was this good! 😉

Originally posted by Captain Angont
Your credibility's over.

How do we know Hulks his level? Your opinion? Not worth allot from what I can tell.

dc bricks have no feats what so ever that put them far and away from marvel higher bricks. For some reason DC likes seeing a brick take out an uber character.