Batman vs Gambit

Originally posted by The Heap
And your stuff is? 🙄

Batman throws 2-3 smoke grenades into Gambits direction as their both circling each other before the fight. Batman, at first would throw one at the ground as a distraction, then would end up behind him using his stealth/ninja training, and would throw the 2nd smoke grenade at Gambit, which Gambit dodges, but Batman throws the 3rd s-grenade into the air itself, to Gambits left [or right, depending on which way he jumps] and as Gambit leaps into mid-air, he accidently gets himself smacked in the face by the 3rd smoke grenade as they connect mid-air, thus blowing Gambits eye sight for awhile. Batman would then use his superior H2H skills/techniques and kick Gambits ass for good.

Try to go through this logic with me LOL.

gambit's endurace, strength, agility, reflexex and speed is SUPERHUMAN when he charges hiself biokinetically. meaning above batman. add to that the ability to charge anything in his line of sight, hypnotic charm, ability to convert himself to pure energy if need be, ability to heal his wounds in desperation by vibrating with kinetic energy etc etc etc, and you have a dead batman. but then again, if batman cudnt defeat gambit levellers in comics, well, he wudnt exist for long wud he. realistically, now way bats takes this. in an actual COMIC though, batman probably wins on account of "hes batman".

^ He charges himself biokinetically to increase his stats?

^yes. thats how he can have the agility and reflexes to rather casually dodge and counter machinegun fire with his staff.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Which is why I said that Gambit is likely to take this fight; he's a metahuman. Bruce isn't.

In H2H combat, Bruce is as fast and far stronger and more durable than Gambit; one blow is all he needs to kill Gambit. A pressure point strike, for example, and Gambit is dead. He won't even have the chance to charge Batman if they go into H2H with Batman bloodthirsty.

Thats higly unlikly since he can use his bio-kinetic power to give his stats a boast for a short period. He can avoid multiple machine fire with meta-level reflex,agility with the amped state. A charged punch throw quicker then a bullet is all he needs.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He charges himself biokinetically to increase his stats?

this is kinda like cyke vs bats,but i think cyke is slighter more formiddable.

batman FTM

Kinda like Bats vs. Cyclops in the sense they are both X-men, other then that not a lot of similarities.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why wouldn't he be able to?

So you meant would he?

And if he didn't think it would kill Bats or if he thought Bats was going for a kill he would.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thats higly unlikly since he can use his bio-kinetic power to give his stats a boast for a short period. He can avoid multiple machine fire with meta-level reflex,agility with the amped state. A charged punch throw quicker then a bullet is all he needs.

Batman has also avoided tons of bullets at once, including at almost point-blank range; he is also insanely agile (not Nightwing-agile, but still extremely agile), strong, and durable. Really, with his peak human stats and almost incomparable martial arts knowledge, you need to either have a sort of unique martial arts skill he doesn't have (Lady Shiva, Cassandra Cain) or have enhanced human attributes/meta-level abilities (Deathstroke). Can you give me a scan where Gambit demonstrated incredible speed in unarmed combat with a person far more skilled than he is? Batman's punches can also be logically quicker than a bullet.

In addition, all Batman needs is one strike to kill Gambit in hand-to-hand combat; Gambit needs to lay a hand on him in order to make Batman go KABOOM, and that seems rather tough, considering he is going up against one of the world's greatest martial artists, if not THE greatest martial artist; if you want a 'fair' comparison, Batman managed to compete with- and even occasionally defeat- Deathstroke the Terminator, who is not only infinitely more skilled and lethal than Gambit in H2H, but also has enhanced human attributes.

Gambit will not last more than a couple of seconds against a bloodthirsty Batman in pure Hand-to-Hand combat. Unless you can provide a scan where Gambit displays uncanny speed when fighting against a highly skilled combatant, Gambit simply has no attribute, gadget, or skill that allows him to last a significant amount of time against Batman in H2H.

That being said, however, Gambit's powerful mutant abilities (alpha-class?) and long-ranged ability should give him the win in an all-out fight more times than not. He's only screwed if it's H2H.

just to put it out there(i've seen some post claiming this).

nothing is superhuman about gambit besides his mutant power.not speed,agility,strength, etc etc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He charges himself biokinetically to increase his stats?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I have heard this. Do you have any panels to support this? I know the handbook says he can amp his agility this way.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Anybody?

I think hes mentioned in Xtreme Xmen and one of his own series that his powers amp his speed. In both cirumstances he was depowered, might be able to get the issue number later.

I got no scans though.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I think hes mentioned in Xtreme Xmen and one of his own series that his powers amp his speed. In both cirumstances he was depowered, might be able to get the issue number later.

I got no scans though.

Originally posted by namorsubby
just to put it out there(i've seen some post claiming this).

nothing is superhuman about gambit besides his mutant power.not speed,agility,strength, etc etc.

Sure he does.

I want to say Gambit. But I might have to give this to Batman. You just don't beat Batman.

I love Batman, but he gets pwned in any typical scenario versus Gambit unless he gets some prep time.

bat feats>gambit's feats