Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
In this corner we have Spiderman, at his best he could lift 15-25 tons, he was able to drop a Herald of Galactus with a few dozen high impact punches. Spiderman has been seen to dodge bullets because he possesses a low level of preconitive powers.

Sweet Jesus, you're really arguing that Spiderman's win over Firelord was legit aren't you?
"A few dozen high impact punches?"
Uh no.... Spiderman hit him relentlessly for full on minutes before the Avengers got to the field. He hit him more than likely hundreds of times and he did it against a Firelord who just had been in the middle of two explosions and had a building collapse on top of him... He was holding his power back as he stated in the beginning of the fight and he tried to h2h it with a character when h2h isn't his strong point.... All that and people STILL considered it as the bar setting feat for what kinds of things we really discard here as PIS due to being suspect...
All THAT, and it doesn't even begin to compare to Spiderman's fights with high tier streets who DO specialize in h2h... 😐

Cap can dodge bullets, that's not an advantage.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Spiderman can leap up to 25-30 feet, toss cars aside like a nomal man tosses a 10 pound bag of clothes. Spiderman is so agile and fast that, although his spider sense warns him of danger has dodged machine gun fire without taking a hit.

Cap and DD jump 20 feet in the air.. how is that an advantage?
Tossing cars around is just being repetative for Spidey's strength advantage which is all he really brings to this fight.

Lol, every streeter has dodged gunfire without getting hit.. big woop.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
In this corner we have Captain America, trained in almost every martial art known to man, able to lift a ton at max, and has been stated to be faster, stronger, more agile, and more durable than the best athlete.
In a comic scenario I can see Captain America giving Spidey a hard time due to plot lines, but on in a forum battle he just doesn't have what it takes to defeat Spiderman, who is greater than him by a landslide.

The only thing Spidey brings here is strength.
In a forum fight the only advantage he has is strength. that's not enough.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Spiderman is the very definition of what being superhuman is about, Captain America barely makes the grade. In fact in a fight Captain America wouldn't even be able to lay a finger on Spiderman if Peter really didn't want him to.
Spiderman FTW 10/10

😂
I love fanboy Spiderman.

Captain America "always finds a way" so he'll beat Spiderman for sure... hm, I kinda like this illogic that doesn't rely on facts to get the job done.

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Originally posted by CaptainStoic

Spiderman beat Firelord into unconciousness... Firelord can dodge a meteor storm while flying at mach speeds.

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Starscream M Senior Member

well jinzin, you gotta admit that based on their powersets...Spiderman beats Capt pretty much every time

stronger, faster, more agile...and PRECOG

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
well jinzin, you gotta admit that based on their powersets...Spiderman beats Capt pretty much every time
stronger, faster, more agile...and PRECOG

He's not faster. He's not even more agile, he only appears so because of his strength factor which is the only advantage that he brings to the fight...
Spider sense isn't precog.
Powersets don't take into consideration Steve's prowess, skill, and intelligence when it comes to fighting whihc all play heavy factors in the decision.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

their last fight proved cap was superior, cap's moves were all strung together like his final justice combo in the marvel vs games. spidey didn't know how to combat him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yzIjIXWlJyw

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
He's not faster. He's not even more agile, he only appears so because of his strength factor which is the only advantage that he brings to the fight...
Spider sense isn't precog.
Powersets don't take into consideration Steve's prowess, skill, and intelligence when it comes to fighting whihc all play heavy factors in the decision.

he's not more agile...are you kidding me? I surely hope you're joking

Spiderman is the MOST AGILE character in all of comics

For him, agility is like strength for Hulk

Captain America doesn't hold a candle to him in agility department

Spidersense is not precog...but it is LIKE precog

and yes, I know cap is more skilled and such, hence why I said Spiderman would win based on only powersets only. With other factors added, it becomes murkier.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
their last fight proved cap was superior, cap's moves were all strung together like his final justice combo in the marvel vs games. spidey didn't know how to combat him.

spidey also has the disadvantage of having a huge mancrush on Rogers

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

well, he is like a living G.I.joe toy, it's hard not to bow down to his awesomeness.

and he punched hitler in the face, quite the feat.
steve rogers has more balls than the JLA combined.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's not more agile...are you kidding me? I surely hope you're joking

Absolutely not. Cap routinely went through training sessions designed for Beasts agility who Spiderman admitted was his equal.
Cap was also able to avoid being flattened/knocked over by a crash to the point that Spiderman himself wasn't even sure how he pulled it off.
Cap regularly displays time and again that his agility is top tier on par with people like DD. The only reason Spiderman LOOKS more agile is because of his strength and ability to stick to walls.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Spiderman is the MOST AGILE character in all of comics
For him, agility is like strength for Hulk

Overrated?

Originally posted by Starscream M
Captain America doesn't hold a candle to him in agility department

Yes he does.. he just doesn't hold a candle in the strength dept which is different.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Spidersense is not precog...but it is LIKE precog

ISH but it ain't precog so don't claim that it is.

Originally posted by Starscream M
and yes, I know cap is more skilled and such, hence why I said Spiderman would win based on only powersets only. With other factors added, it becomes murkier.

It just looks like you're trying to undermine the fact that Rogers would stand a chance of taking Spidey by beckoning that I focus on powersets alone. 😬

Starscream M Senior Member

you're ridiculous jinzin, claiming that Cap's agility is on par with Spiderman

I'm sorry, read a spiderman comic....you see him doing crazy flips every panel that capt almost never does

spiderman contorts his body in ways Rogers can't even imagine

so please don't tell me that somehow because Capt impressed Parker he is on par

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam

steve rogers has more balls than the JLA combined.

that was random lol

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

"spiderman contorts his body in ways Rogers can't even imagine"

that only means he is more limber.
there agility is quite the same really, as jinzin pointed out, cap can't stick to walls and his strength is lower bot on land they are peers.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"spiderman contorts his body in ways Rogers can't even imagine"
that only means he is more limber.
there agility is quite the same really, as jinzin pointed out, cap can't stick to walls and his strength is lower bot on land they are peers.

being more limber helps you be more agile

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Starscream M
that was random lol

but it's true.

look what he did with only a shield, no powers, and no bs upgrades.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but it's true.
look what he did with only a shield, no powers, and no bs upgrades.

wonderwoman alone has bigger balls than Rogers...not to mention the man of STEEL

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Starscream M
being more limber helps you be more agile

somewhat....but not hurting yourself doing strenuous moves/poses is what being limber remedies.

skill, using one's environment, and battle smarts is what allows one to be more agile, jacky chan is a premium example. not the strongest man but he moves like a gymnast. *cough* cap *cough*

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Starscream M
wonderwoman alone has bigger balls than Rogers...not to mention the man of STEEL

hell no, superman without powers would get shitstomped by cap, batman, b.panther etc.
superman's whole thing is being super so without that he is clark kent the chump.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
somewhat....but not hurting yourself doing strenuous moves/poses is what being limber remedies.
skill, using one's environment, and battle smarts is what allows one to be more agile, jacky chan is a premium example. not the strongest man but he moves like a gymnast. *cough* cap *cough*

I never said being the strongest makes you more agile

I said being limber makes you more agile...and your example, Jackie Chan proves that...he's very limber

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, he is like a living G.I.joe toy, it's hard not to bow down to his awesomeness.
and he punched hitler in the face, quite the feat.
steve rogers has more balls than the JLA combined.

😂

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're ridiculous jinzin, claiming that Cap's agility is on par with Spiderman
I'm sorry, read a spiderman comic....you see him doing crazy flips every panel that capt almost never does
spiderman contorts his body in ways Rogers can't even imagine
so please don't tell me that somehow because Capt impressed Parker he is on par

I see so when Spiderman does flips and jumps around he's super agile.. When Cap does it, he's not.

When Spiderman dodges bullets he's super fast...
When Cap does it, he's not.

When Spiderman can register bullets it's super impressive....
When Cap can, it isn't....
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