Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's you who isn't following the rules. Unless you believe you know more than the Mods. This is a quote from Badabing. And if you don't believe me, you can all ways ask him yourself.

A lot of people here know more than the mods in some respects. That's why mods have been defeated in tourneys.. Hell an argument I had with Digi way back when was still one of his favorite debates he ever had here for all the insights he hadn't previously taken into account, know you're really reaching.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
So basically, this is Spidey right after the "Rebirth" storyline. Since this is Spidey preforming at his best. Forum rules right 😖hifty:

And this is what Spidey can do while not holding back.

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After the other = not suitable evidence.
Before One More Day = Not suitable evidence.

And on top of that hasn't it been hinted Kingpins a skrull anyways?

Yeah fail....

Originally posted by jinzin

And on top of that hasn't it been hinted Kingpins a skrull anyways?

Yeah fail....

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Originally posted by jinzin
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Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's you who isn't following the rules. Unless you believe you know more than the Mods. This is a quote from Badabing. And if you don't believe me, you can all ways ask him yourself.

"No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates. ."

And here's a link to the post where it's actually covered...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9388817&highlight=No+Mentioning+Events+of+PIS+forumid%3A77+userid%3A49912#post9388817

Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's you who isn't following the rules. Unless you believe you know more than the Mods. This is a quote from Badabing. And if you don't believe me, you can all ways ask him yourself.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Bada was obviously confused. As you can clearly see CIS is NOT exemp from debates...

BATKICK!!!

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't care if Martial Artists gave spidey trouble 10000/10000 times consistently. If these characters were real then it wouldn't happen.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Classic.

Indeed.

"I debate on a comic forum about comic characters using comics as evidence...

...But I don't care what the comics say! I'm right!"

Originally posted by jinzin
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Yes it would.

Originally posted by Starscream M
meh, I'd rather face an aging obese fatso than a skrull

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it would.

Uh... NO.......You guys reallly aren't well versed with skrulls are ya?

Try as they might they never quite manage to outdo the real thing. Of course there's exceptions to the rule like Super Skrull, or the New Avengers multipowered skrull... But ones that are made to be just copies of the original never quite live up to their counterparts.. Lest you think Wolverine can die by a sword stab, Hulk KOed by a Colossus punch, or Thing put down by a 5 story fall... 😬

In any case, it really doesn't matter as beating Kingpin once doesn't automatically erase all his disgraces. He had a hero-no sell moment DD's had as much against Kingpin... Big deal, that doesn't mean DD>>>> All street levels... Hell, Wolverine's put down Sabretooth like 4 times noncholantly.. That doesn't mean that Wolverine at his best is>>> Sabretooth at his best when we've seen a bajillion examples that contradict it.... When a character does something that they've failed to do multiple times we have a name for that here...

Originally posted by jinzin
When a character does something that they've failed to do multiple times we have a name for that here...

As much thought and effort you put into this post, sadly i dont think spidey fans will get this part and/or agree with it....

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Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it would.

I don't care if Martial Artists gave spidey trouble 10000/10000 times consistently. If these characters were real then it wouldn't happen.

Real as in real life?.........LOL

First of all if either Spiderman or Cap were real, they wouldn't have anything other then a real human........period.

Yet you pretend Spiderman gets his spider-powers in real life, then you must also pretend that Cap gets his Super-skills and SSS in real life.

Your logic does not make sense at all.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's you who isn't following the rules. Unless you believe you know more than the Mods. This is a quote from Badabing. And if you don't believe me, you can all ways ask him yourself.

So basically, this is Spidey right after the "Rebirth" storyline. Since this is Spidey preforming at his best. Forum rules right 😖hifty:

And this is what Spidey can do while not holding back.

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Then I'll have to thank you. You see everybody needs haters. And let me tell you that I take great pleasure in telling you that I'll be going nowhere no time soon, since you feel that way. You may have been here longer. But I have made a place for me here and I've showed my appreciation for this site as much as anybody else.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's you who isn't following the rules. Unless you believe you know more than the Mods. This is a quote from Badabing. And if you don't believe me, you can all ways ask him yourself.

And again you misrepresent the rules again. As shown above.

Originally posted by Ha-Son
He wasn't holding back? Fisk should have been knocked out with one hit then. But I guess Spidey doesn't hit as hard as everyone thought.

Well if you payed attention, Spidey wasn't trying to kill him or knock him out right away. He just wanted to hurt him really bad. The man couldn't even stand up 😬

In this corner we have Spiderman, at his best he could lift 15-25 tons, he was able to drop a Herald of Galactus with a few dozen high impact punches. Spiderman has been seen to dodge bullets because he possesses a low level of preconitive powers.

Spiderman can leap up to 25-30 feet, toss cars aside like a nomal man tosses a 10 pound bag of clothes. Spiderman is so agile and fast that, although his spider sense warns him of danger has dodged machine gun fire without taking a hit.

In this corner we have Captain America, trained in almost every martial art known to man, able to lift a ton at max, and has been stated to be faster, stronger, more agile, and more durable than the best athlete.

In a comic scenario I can see Captain America giving Spidey a hard time due to plot lines, but on in a forum battle he just doesn't have what it takes to defeat Spiderman, who is greater than him by a landslide.

Spiderman is the very definition of what being superhuman is about, Captain America barely makes the grade. In fact in a fight Captain America wouldn't even be able to lay a finger on Spiderman if Peter really didn't want him to.

Spiderman FTW 10/10

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
In fact in a fight Captain America wouldn't even be able to lay a finger on Spiderman if Peter really didn't want him to.

Spiderman FTW 10/10

Except Cap and every other elite do hit Spiderman. In fact they do it all the time. Every time.

Plus you can't say, well Spiderman holds back.

Right.......but answer yourself this, why would Spiderman hold back his speed to dodge and attack??

What his dodging speed will create a sonicboom that will incinerate them instantly, so he holds back his dodging speed as well.

I don't......... think so. They hit him because they can.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Except Cap and every other elite do hit Spiderman. In fact they do it all the time. Every time.

Plus you can't say, well Spiderman holds back.

Right.......but answer yourself this, why would Spiderman hold back his speed to dodge and attack??

What his dodging speed will create a sonicboom that will incinerate them instantly, so he holds back his dodging speed as well.

I don't......... think so. They hit him because they can.

And here is your answer.

"Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates. ."

How else would you explain Wolverine being able to keep up with spiderman in an open space like a cemetary? Spiderman beat Firelord into unconciousness... Firelord can dodge a meteor storm while flying at mach speeds.