Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Started by Daredevil190 pages

Originally posted by Marvelknight
You wanna know what the problem is? The problem is that Cap's jobber aura travels with him even on a comic book vs forum (very sad). There isn't really that big of a difference between the two of them at all.

Lol.... This is where your on panel proof gos against you. For one, "the next step in human evolution". Is just a title when facing the Batman. Because what Cap has done to somebody who is truly superior to him. He can't even do the same to Batman and he hasn't on panel. "the next step in human evolution", yeah, OK.

And yet Batman has feats to show that he isn't far behind at all. And Cap has never overpowered Batman on panel. Oh you're doing such good job owning me, keep it up 😬

Wrong, it's according to "comics". Batman has put down foes far superior to Spidey more than once. Batman is one of the most well trained, calculating, efficient men alive. If Cap can put down Spidey, so can Batman.

That is my point exactly. It's your inability to see pass the hold Cap has on you. And it is so sad that with all of the talk about Spidey having problems with A-list MAs, now all of a sudden Batman isn't on that list and he can't beat Spidey as well. Because it's not like Bats hasn't done the same things that Cap has done, right 😬 That is the most bias, and double standard piece of trash I've ever heard 😠

Note. Just disregard the post before this one. This is the true version.

All that rhetoric and not anything resembling a real counter. 🙂 😈

You say Cap's jobber aure and yet its Cap whose fight record speaks for itself. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You say Cap's jobber aure and yet its Cap whose fight record speaks for itself. 😮‍💨

😆 Because of his jobber aura 😬

This is ridiculous. Your incessant focus on comparisons between powers has derailed this thread so much that you're forgetting the damn reason why Cap has been depicted as winning all the time against Spidey.

Cap's a better fighter. Far greater. And unlike other foes like Wolverine or Batman, Cap has studied Spidey's style completely and utterly. It's just fact. Whether you want to argue that Cap shouldn't be able to do this or that, it's inarguably clear that Cap is such a skilled fighter, that if he were to have the additional advantage of knowing another person's fighting abilities completely, he'd make that guy look like an idiot. This is why Cap beats Spiderman straight up. Not because of a projected jobber aura that creates advantages where none could possibly be. As for this thread, I'll say it again:

Cap 5/10. Only because his shield is like an extension of him, and while he's hardly helpless without it... Cap's clearly handicapped far more than Spidey is. You give him his shield and take away Spidey's webs, then it'd be 7/10 or close to 8/10 for Cap.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is ridiculous. Your incessant focus on comparisons between powers has derailed this thread so much that you're forgetting the damn reason why Cap has been depicted as winning all the time against Spidey.

Cap's a better fighter. Far greater. And unlike other foes like Wolverine or Batman, Cap has studied Spidey's style completely and utterly. It's just fact. Whether you want to argue that Cap shouldn't be able to do this or that, it's inarguably clear that Cap is such a skilled fighter, that if he were to have the additional advantage of knowing another person's fighting abilities completely, he'd make that guy look like an idiot. This is why Cap beats Spiderman straight up. Not because of a projected jobber aura that creates advantages where none could possibly be. As for this thread, I'll say it again:

Cap 5/10. Only because his shield is like an extension of him, and while he's hardly helpless without it... Cap's clearly handicapped far more than Spidey is. You give him his shield and take away Spidey's webs, then it'd be 7/10 or close to 8/10 for Cap.

Batman could also studie Spidey's style during the fight and pick him apart. You act like Cap is the only one who can. Dam I can't stand it, Cap is losing here GET OVER IT! Everyone acts like he can't lose in a fight. I made a Cap vs Cable thread and nobody wanted to give Cap the win over Cable. Cable has class 10 strength and nowhere near as fast or agile as Spidey. How the hell is Cap suppose beat Spider-Man when Spidey doesn't have to fight the way Cap would want him to. They are in NYC. Spider-Man can and will use surroundings to his advantage. Spider-Man takes this 6/10 period.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Batman could also studie Spidey's style during the fight and pick him apart. You act like Cap is the only one who can. Dam I can't stand it, Cap is losing here GET OVER IT! Everyone acts like he can't lose in a fight. I made a Cap vs Cable thread and nobody wanted to give Cap the win over Cable. Cable has class 10 strength and nowhere near as fast or agile as Spidey. How the hell is Cap suppose beat Spider-Man when Spidey doesn't have to fight the way Cap would want him to. They are in NYC. Spider-Man can and will use surroundings to his advantage. Spider-Man takes this 6/10 period.
If he only takes it 6/10, then how could Cap not have a chance to win?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
😆 Because of his jobber aura 😬

Good now apply that to Batman, Spiderman, and anyone with a fan base LOL.

It works both ways yet you just see it in one dimension. Biased springs to mind.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter is peak humans can lift over 100tons and can move at light speeds or perform other feats that humans can never do. Super human>>>>>Peak human by definition.

How do you know?

Where is that stated?

That's like stating that a mortal can't beat a god, which in comics and fiction is ludicrous.
You're entire arguments based off of hyperbole, noncannon, titles, and benefits of the doubt.. it's not an effective argument. I could argue the pro-Spidey side better than you have without having to resort to such bias tactics.

You know Marvelknight you should just stop trying to reason with these fanboys...obviosuly they have been affected by the CA jobbing aura as well. I mean when u consider the level of power Peter operates on there is no way a peak human should be able to touch him.....this forum makes me sad.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Batman could also studie Spidey's style during the fight and pick him apart. You act like Cap is the only one who can. Dam I can't stand it, Cap is losing here GET OVER IT! Everyone acts like he can't lose in a fight. I made a Cap vs Cable thread and nobody wanted to give Cap the win over Cable. Cable has class 10 strength and nowhere near as fast or agile as Spidey. How the hell is Cap suppose beat Spider-Man when Spidey doesn't have to fight the way Cap would want him to. They are in NYC. Spider-Man can and will use surroundings to his advantage. Spider-Man takes this 6/10 period.
What? How would Batman study his style at the beginning of the fight? Cap knows Spidey's fighting style because he's studied Spiderman for years. Batman's good. He's not that damned good to be able to accomplish that same feat at the beginning of a fight. This thread makes Spidey fight the EXACT way Cap WANTS to reduce any fight between them. H2H. Just read the damn 'Civil War' fight again. And Cap vs Cable? A telekinetic and telepath? Yeah. Not the same thing.

The fact that you think my statement is utterly ridiculous and that I am so unbelievably wrong is pretty darn funny... considering that you and me are only off by 1/10. We're not even that god damned far apart. In fact this is as close as you can get to agreeing and still... somehow... I'm completely wrong.

Cap 5/10.

As I said, If Cap can beat Spidey so can Bats...

Weapon skill:

CA
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img155.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img155&image=batmark74sg.jpg
http://img155.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img155&image=batmark89ww.jpg

Strength:

Cap
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8761/capstrenfdoor1tk0.th.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capdoor2za5.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1007/captainamericav412p05hgdw2.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2255/capiii13p1448fa0365vx8.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfgm0.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gothamknights1pg304wr.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfci2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfci2.jpg

Durability:

Cap
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1078/captainamericav3021pagesj9.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6997/captainamericav3021pageip7.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img36&image=scan00042an.jpg

Speed/agility:

Cap
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3664/avengersv305accusationmcc8.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg

Stop stripping experience and knowledge away from fights and focusing only on physical traits and independent fighting skills. If it makes you feel any better, I think that Batman would beat up Robin quicker than Cap would, ok? Focus on that. It's exactly why Cap can do what he can do to Spiderman. His physical abilities allow him to keep up with Spiderman. His superior fighting skills allow him to go toe-to-toe and hurt Spiderman. But his absolute knowledge of Spidey's fighting skills and powers from years and years of studying are what tip the favor to Cap. And Batman doesn't have that.

But if you want to revive a Captain America vs Batman thread. Go for it. Seems you've got a good start on it and have a lot to offer to one.

When you exclude the jobber aura of Cap and match them up according to logic and what is reasonable you will see were we are coming from. Spidey takes the solid majority.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
When you exclude the jobber aura of Cap and match them up according to logic and what is reasonable you will see were we are coming from. Spidey takes the solid majority.
If you equate knowing another character's powers and fighting style so completely and utterly from years and years of studying to a jobber aura... then you don't know what a jobber aura really is. Is it fair that Cap has this insane advantage? Not exactly. But it's his character and CIS counts in vs. threads. If you don't like it, post in the Wolverine vs. Spiderman fist-fight thread. Wolvie doesn't have that advantage.

Captain is only peak human strength, Spiderman can crush human bones as easily as he lifts an automobile. Spiderman has spidey sense and is more agile than Captain.

Captain America stands no chance at all

It's like I was saying, just because something happens on panel doesnt make it right....if Beast oneshots Silver Sufer on panel does that mean it should happen?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
It's like I was saying, just because something happens on panel doesnt make it right....if Beast oneshots Silver Sufer on panel does that mean it should happen?

Or Black Panther putting Silver Surfer in an arm hold.

Exaclty, writers are subjects to comic"politics"and because of the fanboyism Cap somehow defies logic and competes agaisnt guys like Spidey.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Exaclty, writers are subjects to comic"politics"and because of the fanboyism Cap somehow defies logic and competes agaisnt guys like Spidey.

actaully if that was the cases spiderman who the far more famous and money maker would wtf pwn capt who not even closes to the money maker spidy is.

hell I would be argueing for spiderman if his supporters in this thread wer enot such bias, ignorant morrons.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
As I said, If Cap can beat Spidey so can Bats...

Weapon skill:

CA
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capskilllm4.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img155.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img155&image=batmark74sg.jpg
http://img155.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img155&image=batmark89ww.jpg

Strength:

Cap
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8761/capstrenfdoor1tk0.th.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capdoor2za5.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1007/captainamericav412p05hgdw2.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2255/capiii13p1448fa0365vx8.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfgm0.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gothamknights1pg304wr.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfci2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfci2.jpg

Durability:

Cap
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1078/captainamericav3021pagesj9.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6997/captainamericav3021pageip7.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img36&image=scan00042an.jpg

Speed/agility:

Cap
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3664/avengersv305accusationmcc8.jpg

vs

Bats
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg


wtf does batman have to do with this thread?

we all know you love his cock, but we don't need you to keep confirming it.