Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and do you have any scans to show us that Spiderman >>>>> Cap in speed? Don't sigh at me im trying my hardest to be civil with you.
Heres a bio for you that say everything about wolverine is superhuman since you love bringing up bios
http://en.marveldatabase.com/James_Howlett_%28Earth-616%29
cap for win since we have soooooooooo much on panel proof to back us up. What proof do you all have, let me say it for you "spiderman is a super human but cap isnt, thats why cap would lose." We have shown on panel proof that cap can perform almost every feat that spiderman has done. By the way, didnt I post a scan of daredevil physically crushing spiderman with spiderman questioning why he cant do anything.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Alright I think I know how we can settle this. I'm issuing an open ended Battlezone challenge to any/all of Spidey's fans that are willing to pick up the gauntlet. It'll be a "Cap vs Spidey" h2h arena match with KMC rules in effect and if I can't convince the judges that Cap can win at least 5/10 my opponent(s) can name their prize.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
*sigh* I seen what Spidey can do with his powers when he's pushing himself to the limit. Superhuman>>>>>peak human.
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Peter_Parker_%28Earth-616%29
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Steven_Rogers_%28Earth-616%29
In terms of speed there are two key words, "excess" and "approximately". You do the math.
Originally posted by darthgoober
So you think Superhuman stats ALWAYS trump peak human stats huh? So you saying that if a 100 lb teenager can bench 800 pounds it means that they're able to bench more than Cap(who can bench 1,100 lbs) because their size and build makes them benching 800 lbs a "superhuman" lifting feat while Cap's size and build makes 1,100 a "peak human" lifting feat?
Darth, dont get them yet, save it for the battle zone, I know someone is brave enough to challenge you. 😮
Originally posted by Marvelknight
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Peter_Parker_%28Earth-616%29http://en.marveldatabase.com/Steven_Rogers_%28Earth-616%29
In terms of speed there are two key words "excess" and "approximately" You do the math.
I was using wolverine, you said that spiderman is faster then wolverine but I have shown you on a bio which you always bring up that wolverine is superhuman also. By the way, on that bio of yours it says that peter parker can run 30 mph, guess what cap say, 60 mph. Which one is faster to you.
Marvelknight, why wont you accept darthgoober challenge. If you truly think that spiderman is faster then cap then accept his challenge so that you can prove us all wrong. You know what I think, Im thinking that you dont have enough evidence to back up your claim. Your just debating on your favorite character and you dont want to see him lose. Well by what have been posted throughout this thread, cap gets a healthy majority.
Originally posted by jinzin😆 I seem to recall I made a thread on that very topic and the multitudes of MA fans and fanboys (particularly Wolverine) alike ran into the thread and provided no real evidence as opposed to ours, only denying it. That thread got closed because the mods got tired of those MA fanboys insulting everyone because they couldn't prove their point, and constantly denied ours. I have the pms from the mods and the thread itself, it was only the same handful of people who argue for the same characters in the same threads that said anything, no rational member agreed with them. Ironic no? I've said my piece but anybody can look in my thread history and search for it themselves if they'd like (Spiderman vs. Wolverine, Last Straw I believe). This isn't so much on the bearing of this thread, but I wanted to make it clear that there is a very nice thread with proof on it despite what the same three people say otherwise. With that logic, guys like Robin are as fast as Wolverine or Spiderman because they move with Shadows behind them and "dodge bullets". (Bearing in mind there is a difference between dodging a bullet and dodging the person that fired it or that person missing.)
Oh you think so? PROVE. IT. 😐
Spiderman MIGHT be slightly faster than Cap but the difference would be irrecognizeable and it definitely would not pose as a matter of difference in this fight.You feel differently? Great! Why don't you do what 1,000 pages of arguing and hundreds of Spiderman fans and fanboys alike have failed to do and show EVIDENCE past the point of hyberbole that shows Spiderman being legitimately faster than any high class street level like Cap....
I haven't seen it done yet and I've argued with A LOT of Spidey fans.
I don't know why I came to this section of the forum. *sigh* Some people will never learn. I'm glad I did and I won't be back soon, this makes my head hurt. 😘
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=443877
Here it is, notice they say Spiderman is slightly faster there, and now he's "just just as fast as Spiderman". Then Cap and everyone else are "just as fast as Spiderman". Back in 05 they were much slower than him. In 2010, they'll be much faster. 🙄
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Well I haven't given you a reason not to be civil. And most of the Spider-Man comics that I had when I was younger. I didn't really take good care of them and I ended up throwing them away. So now that I keep all of my comics in peak condition. I still have to start my spidey collection all over again.
Sounds like an excuse to me. Anyway go to these respect threads and find some feats that put Spiderman >>> Cap in terms of speed.
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142705.0.html
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t443005.html
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spider-Man FTW. Obviously.
You cant prove that mate your gonna get owned.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
(Bearing in mind there is a difference between dodging a bullet and dodging the person that fired it or that person missing.)
Cap can actually dodge bullets after they have been fired, so yeah hes almost as fast as Spiderman.