Originally posted by carver9
Heres a bio for you that say everything about wolverine is superhuman since you love bringing up bios
http://en.marveldatabase.com/James_Howlett_%28Earth-616%29
OK, he has superhuman agility, reflexes, stamina, strength, and superhumanly acute senses. But nothing about speed though. And the Adamantium and HF, speaks for his durability.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You cant prove that mate your gonna get owned.
Oh, I'm well aware that I didn't prove anything. I've done all my debating on this topic loooong before now, over a year ago now. I think there a plenty of proof in the respect threads alone to answer the question, but I'll just leave it at that.
Every now and then I like to jump in here and start stuff. 😎
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hey, Carver. Side question, trying to be civil.Just curious. Do you think that Cap is faster than Spidey? In all aspects, I mean.
Naah, I dont think that cap is faster then spidey but I do think that cap has the ability to keep up with spiderman and have the upper hand on him due to being one of the best tactical fighters in marvel universe. Spiderman couldnt even keep up with him in there last encounter but again thats not saying that cap is faster but more of a fluent and better fighter then peter is by far. Even though spiderman has a spider sense that wont help him in a fight with cap, someone who is almost as fast, just as agile and a waaaaay better fighter.
but the answer to your question, no cap isnt faster then spiderman.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
OK, he has superhuman agility, reflexes, stamina, strength, and superhumanly acute senses. But nothing about speed though. And the Adamantium and HF, speaks for his durability.
Do you know what super human reflexes are, lets put it like this, doomsday have super human reflexes but not speed and it was stated that he moves as fast as the flash. So if flash fought a guy that reflexes is on par with him, do you think that guy would land a lick. By the way we have proven to many times that wolverine has super human speed.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you know what super human reflexes are, lets put it like this, doomsday have super human reflexes but not speed and it was stated that he moves as fast as the flash. So if flash fought a guy that reflexes is on par with him, do you think that guy would land a lick. By the way we have proven to many times that wolverine has super human speed.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Do you know the difference from reflexes and speed?
Do you know the difference between reflexes and speed. Answer this, if a guy can fly the speed of light and I have reflexes of the speed of light and the guy flies at me in a straight line and tries to punch me, with my faster then light reflexes, would I be able to tag him or would the guy be to fast for me?
Originally posted by Marvelknight
They're in the same room not far from each other. Wow, it doesn't much to cover that short distance. Show me Cap doing that from far range.
I tell you what why dont you give me an example of Spiderman doing something better or similar? 🤨
Im providing evidence all you're doing is talking. The whole bloody point is that he moved after the bullets are fired which means he can actually move faster than a bullet, see the significance?
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I dont think that cap is faster then spidey but I do think that cap has the ability to keep up with spiderman and have the upper hand on him due to being one of the best tactical fighters in marvel universe. Spiderman couldnt even keep up with him in there last encounter but again thats not saying that cap is faster but more of a fluent and better fighter then peter is by far. Even though spiderman has a spider sense that wont help him in a fight with cap, someone who is almost as fast, just as agile and a waaaaay better fighter.but the answer to your question, no cap isnt faster then spiderman.
A simple "No" would've sufficed, but thank you for answering. Even though you did it in the most confusing manner possible. "I dont think that cap is faster then spidey but I do think that cap has the ability to keep up with spiderman". So, while's not faster, he possesses close to if not the same speed? No, I'm afraid not.
But now you've sparked another debate within me--Why exactly is the spider-sense useless in this fight? I really hope that you're not referring to the scuffle between the two during Civil War, when Spidey was basically pissing his pants upon the stupifying aura that is Cap's. And even if you are, has there been any other time when Cap supposedly "fooled" Spidey's spider-sense?
I'm just afraid that I do not understand why it won't help him at all in this fight.
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and then you said so yourself that cap can dodge bullets, your post is on page 60 and this is what you said.
Wow. Ok. Nobody is talking about how fast he can dodge bullets. As I said before. Scorpion isn't really smart And Cap probably didn't need to use his shield to beat him. But that doesn't mean that Cap doesn't use his shield 90% of the time in general.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
So, while's not faster, he possesses close to if not the same speed? No, I'm afraid not.
What Cap isnt close to Spiderman in speed?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
But now you've sparked another debate within me--Why exactly is the spider-sense useless in this fight? I really hope that you're not referring to the scuffle between the two during Civil War, when Spidey was basically pissing his pants upon the stupifying aura that is Cap's. And even if you are, has there been any other time when Cap supposedly "fooled" Spidey's spider-sense?
1. Thats an excuse because Cap was holding back to.
2. An evil robot clone of Spiderman said he could not take Cap in H2H.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm just afraid that I do not understand why it won't help him at all in this fight.
because they are almost as fast as jim and Cap has analysed his style. What more do you want? Spiderman has had trouble with street levelers since the damn of time. You gonna call all those examples PIS.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
A simple "No" would've sufficed, but thank you for answering. Even though you did it in the most confusing manner possible. "I dont think that cap is faster then spidey but I do think that cap has the ability to keep up with spiderman". So, while's not faster, he possesses close to if not the same speed? No, I'm afraid not.But now you've sparked another debate within me--Why exactly is the spider-sense useless in this fight? I really hope that you're not referring to the scuffle between the two during Civil War, when Spidey was basically pissing his pants upon the stupifying aura that is Cap's. And even if you are, has there been any other time when Cap supposedly "fooled" Spidey's spider-sense?
I'm just afraid that I do not understand why it won't help him at all in this fight.
The reason why it wont help him in this fight is due to the fact that he is facing someone who is almost as fast as himself. I can understand if he was mr.x, someone who actually know what move your going to do before you do it but the only thing spiderman spider radar do is advise him of a incoming attack, so spiderman would be dodging one attacking but falling victim to another attack from an opponent that again is just as fast, agile, etc...
Spiderman only advantage in fights against high top tier fighters is his webbing, without it he usually get crushed. Just look at the daredevil fight that was previously shown, look at majority of the wolverine vs spiderman fights, the only time spiderman actually ever did good against wolverine was in there 1st encounter and wolverine was basically holding back. Look at spiderman scuffle with sabertooth and silver samurai. Spiderman does terrible against them because they are basically him but with the lack of strength but is a much better tacticle fighter and some of the best fighters in marvel.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I tell you what why dont you give me an example of Spiderman doing something better or similar? 🤨Im providing evidence all you're doing is talking. The whole bloody point is that he moved after the bullets are fired which means he can actually move faster than a bullet, see the significance?
Yeah I'm talking and making sense. You're wasting your own time. I didn't make you post in this thread. That is your choice, not mines.
And I've been posted scans already. I'm a comic book artist and I pay attention to detail. So I call it like I see it. That feat is not so hot. If Cap was a block away, then maybe. But he's not even 10 feet away.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah I'm talking and making sense. You're wasting your own time. I didn't make you post in this thread. That is your choice, not mines.
And I've been posted scans already. I'm an comic book artist and I pay attention to detail. So I call it like I see it. That feat is not so hot. If Cap was a block away, then maybe. But he's not even 10 feet away.
Yeah ive seen them how did they prove that Spdierman was >>>>> Cap?.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What Cap isnt close to Spiderman in speed?1. Thats an excuse because Cap was holding back to.
2. An evil robot clone of Spiderman said he could not take Cap in H2H.because they are almost as fast as jim and Cap has analysed his style. What more do you want? Spiderman has had trouble with street levelers since the damn of time. You gonna call all those examples PIS.
I believe they are going to call it pis because they just dont like it. Spiderman has been getting his a** crushed by street levelers in the beginning. King pin was just the beginning. Spiderman spider sense aint sh** when he's fighting someone that is just as fast as him.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah I'm talking and making sense. You're wasting your own time. I didn't make you post in this thread. That is your choice, not mines.
And I've been posted scans already. I'm a comic book artist and I pay attention to detail. So I call it like I see it. That feat is not so hot. If Cap was a block away, then maybe. But he's not even 10 feet away.
Marvel knight, what in the hell are you talking about. Your post are ridiculous and you use lame ways of downing someone dodging a bullet. Dodging a bullet is dodging a bullet, just deal with it. So since I posted wolverine slapping bullets out of the air at point blank range, Im guessing that wolverine is>>>>>spiderman in speed since spiderman has yet to repeat that same feat. Since I posted wolverine dodging cyclops optic blast at point blank range without even trying, Im guessing that wolverine is>>>>>>>spiderman in speed huh, since spiderman has yet to repeat that same feat.
