Originally posted by carver9
I believe they are going to call it pis because they just dont like it. Spiderman has been getting his a** crushed by street levelers in the beginning. King pin was just the beginning. Spiderman spider sense aint sh** when he's fighting someone that is just as fast as him.
Yeah im just waiting for the excuse. Im probably going to be told the robot clone was a rubbish replica of Spiderman.
Originally posted by carver9
Marvel knight, what in the hell are you talking about. Your post are ridiculous and you use lame ways of downing someone dodging a bullet. Dodging a bullet is dodging a bullet, just deal with it. So since I posted wolverine slapping bullets out of the air at point blank range, Im guessing that wolverine is>>>>>spiderman in speed since spiderman has yet to repeat that same feat. Since I posted wolverine dodging cyclops optic blast at point blank range without even trying, Im guessing that wolverine is>>>>>>>spiderman in speed huh, since spiderman has yet to repeat that same feat.
That's your problem. Hitting a target is hitting a target. So I guest that Cap, Bats, DD, Green Arrow, Nightwing>>>>>Bullseye or they are on the same level, right? That's how you argue. And no, dodging bullet isn't just dodging a bullet. Because some guns fire faster than others. And it depends on how much movement is required to dodge it and how far they are before dodging the bullet.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah I'm talking and making sense. You're wasting your own time. I didn't make you post in this thread. That is your choice, not mines.
And I've been posted scans already. I'm a comic book artist and I pay attention to detail. So I call it like I see it. That feat is not so hot. If Cap was a block away, then maybe. But he's not even 10 feet away.
Oh and...
Originally posted by darthgoober
I didn't mean in this thread, a whole new thread will be made especially for it.Anyway you're one of those people who thinks Spidey wins 10/10 aren't you? You ready to put your money were you're mouth is and accept the challenge?
Originally posted by darthgoober
So you think Superhuman stats ALWAYS trump peak human stats huh? So you saying that if a 100 lb teenager can bench 800 pounds it means that they're able to bench more than Cap(who can bench 1,100 lbs) because their size and build makes them benching 800 lbs a "superhuman" lifting feat while Cap's size and build makes 1,100 a "peak human" lifting feat?
You don't have superhuman strength at 800lbs. I don't care if a baby benches 800lbs. max.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
That's your problem. Hitting a target is hitting a target. So I guest that Cap, Bats, DD, Green Arrow, Nightwing>>>>>Bullseye or they are on the same level, right? That's how you argue. And no, dodging bullet isn't just dodging a bullet. Because some guns fire faster than others. And it depends on how much movement is required to dodge it and how far they are before dodging the bullet.
Nope I dont think that but I do think that bats, dd, and probably green arrow could tag cap even though he has some amazing speed feats. Im not the one in denial. I know what each of those characters are capable of, your the one who fail to accept what has been happening to a character for years. For years, it has been shown that even though sabertooth is wolverines physical superior but wolverine is able to keep up with him, so since this has been happening for years, you might as well accept it. For years darkseid has been having trouble with superman, since this has been happening for years, we might as well accept it. For years juggernaut has proven that he is a physical matchup for the hulk, so since this has been happening for years then again you a** might as well accept it. 1 more example because you might not understand my point, for years spiderman has been getting his a** whipped by top tier martial artist, SO SINCE THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING HIS ENTIRE CAREER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL ACCEPT IT.
Originally posted by carver9
I was using wolverine, you said that spiderman is faster then wolverine but I have shown you on a bio which you always bring up that wolverine is superhuman also. By the way, on that bio of yours it says that peter parker can run 30 mph, guess what cap say, 60 mph. Which one is faster to you.
You can't read. It says that Parker can run in excess of 30mph.
Steve can only run approximately 30mph but nearly 60mph in duress. And note, Spiderman in duress has many times achieved class 50-100 feats. So I wonder what his speed is under duress.
Originally posted by h1a8
You don't have superhuman strength at 800lbs. I don't care if a baby benches 800lbs. max.
are you accepting his challenge h1a8, I really want it to be you instead of anyone on this thread, I would love to see him prove every post that you made to be pointless. Accept his challenge.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneCap can actually dodge bullets after they have been fired, so yeah hes almost as fast as Spiderman.
This is arguable. CA has probably barely leaned out of the way after he seen a bullet fired. The scan is ambiguous to me. He could have just reacted at the man pulling on the trigger. Also dodging bullets doesn't prove that you are faster (or fast as) than Spidey. Superman can dodge bullets too. So I guess Spidey is almost just as fast. 🙄
Spidey has moved greater distances than CA's slight lean to the side when the bullet was in the air. So if both can dodge bullets spidey is still significantly faster.
Originally posted by carver9
are you accepting his challenge h1a8, I really want it to be you instead of anyone on this thread, I would love to see him prove every post that you made to be pointless. Accept his challenge.
If he can't prove it in this thread, what's the point.
Originally posted by carver9
Nope I dont think that but I do think that bats, dd, and probably green arrow could tag cap even though he has some amazing speed feats. Im not the one in denial. I know what each of those characters are capable of, your the one who fail to accept what has been happening to a character for years. For years, it has been shown that even though sabertooth is wolverines physical superior but wolverine is able to keep up with him, so since this has been happening for years, you might as well accept it. For years darkseid has been having trouble with superman, since this has been happening for years, we might as well accept it. For years juggernaut has proven that he is a physical matchup for the hulk, so since this has been happening for years then again you a** might as well accept it. 1 more example because you might not understand my point, for years spiderman has been getting his a** whipped by top tier martial artist, SO SINCE THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING HIS ENTIRE CAREER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL ACCEPT IT.
Spidey is more superior to CA than Sabertooth is to Wolverine.
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I dont think that cap is faster then spidey but I do think that cap has the ability to keep up with spiderman and have the upper hand on him due to being one of the best tactical fighters in marvel universe. Spiderman couldnt even keep up with him in there last encounter but again thats not saying that cap is faster but more of a fluent and better fighter then peter is by far. Even though spiderman has a spider sense that wont help him in a fight with cap, someone who is almost as fast, just as agile and a waaaaay better fighter.but the answer to your question, no cap isnt faster then spiderman.
SS is one of the most single most greatest powers one can have.
With it (alone with sufficient speed) it is impossible to get hit with a dumb attack (punches, lasers, and bullets). A dumb attack is an attack in which, once launched, can't change directions to compensate someone dodging it.
Parker's reflexes alone (seeing CA as a statue) will prevent him from getting hit. Adding the SS is overkill.
Let me ask you something. Do you believe that if someone can see a bullet in almost still motion then they would see CA the same?
Originally posted by Marvelknight
If he can't prove it in this thread, what's the point.Spidey is more superior to CA than Sabertooth is to Wolverine.
Thats right -and Juggernaut v Hulk is also a bad example as Juggy has always been potrayed as Hulk level power, and this is even stated in official bios'
Originally posted by Marvelknight
If he can't prove it in this thread, what's the point.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Can you think of a single instance of a "human" teenager(let alone baby) 800 lbs? If not then there's no evidence it's speculation...
Super human strength is defined in official handbooks in which writers played a part (didn't write it though). And the original writer(s) of CA are the one(s) who defined CA as being peak human (not super human). The writers purposely wanted CA to not have any super powers. Because they wanted to inspire us humans that we can achieve great things without the benefit of super powers. CA is the inspiration not only of America but of humanity.