Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Originally posted by h1a8
SS is one of the most single most greatest powers one can have.
With it (alone with sufficient speed) it is impossible to get hit with a dumb attack (punches, lasers, and bullets). A dumb attack is an attack in which, once launched, can't change directions to compensate someone dodging it.

Parker's reflexes alone (seeing CA as a statue) will prevent him from getting hit. Adding the SS is overkill.

Let me ask you something. Do you believe that if someone can see a bullet in almost still motion then they would see CA the same?

Nope I dont think that it would make cap appear as a statue since cap is faster then a bullet.

Answer this question, do you think that a person that can see bullets in slow motion can see spiderman in slow motion because it has been said on panel that cap can see bullets in slow motion. By the way, where are you getting the fact that spiderman can see bullets in slow motion. Do you have any on panel proof like captain america got.

Originally posted by h1a8
Super human strength is defined in official handbooks in which writers played a part (didn't write it though). And the original writer(s) of CA are the one(s) who defined CA as being peak human (not super human). The writers purposely wanted CA to not have any super powers. Because they wanted to inspire us humans that we can achieve great things without the benefit of super powers. CA is the inspiration not only of America but of humanity.

and that inspiration has whooped spiderman a** on more then 3 occasions.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
If he can't prove it in this thread, what's the point.

Spidey is more superior to CA than Sabertooth is to Wolverine.

Seems like you are scared, I dont blame you because I believe deep down inside you know the truth. Hell I dont even think its deep down inside, I think that you know the truth period.

Proove that spiderman is superior to cap and by the way, you didnt get my post because your post is backwards as hell.

Originally posted by h1a8
Super human strength is defined in official handbooks in which writers played a part (didn't write it though). And the original writer(s) of CA are the one(s) who defined CA as being peak human (not super human). The writers purposely wanted CA to not have any super powers. Because they wanted to inspire us humans that we can achieve great things without the benefit of super powers. CA is the inspiration not only of America but of humanity.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No one is claiming that Cap has powers so I fail to see your point. Spiderman's speed while impressive, doesn't fall THAT far into the category of "Super Human" and because of that Cap's speed(which is the pinnacle of "human" ability) is still right behind it.

let's argue another point.
do you think that CA is faster than or slower than a bullet?

note: one doesn't have to be faster than a bullet in order to dodge it

Originally posted by carver9
Seems like you are scared, I dont blame you because I believe deep down inside you know the truth. Hell I dont even think its deep down inside, I think that you know the truth period.

Proove that spiderman is superior to cap and by the way, you didnt get my post because your post is backwards as hell.

😆

Originally posted by h1a8
let's argue another point.
do you think that CA is faster than or slower than a bullet?

note: one doesn't have to be faster than a bullet in order to dodge it

As you can clearly see, the third image of Cap swings his body to one side to avoid the bullets, then in the forth image Cap's jumped and is now in front of the bullets.

darth set this battle up. As I said before, I back down from no one. I'll meet you on the battle field spiderman-sm

Originally posted by Marvelknight
darth set this battle up. As I said before, I back down from no one. I'll meet you on the battle field spiderman-sm

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm about to have to step out for a while, you free tomorrow?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Sure

BTW do you want to have actual judges, or just allow the onlookers to vote? Also, how long do you want the match to last?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Alright then at this time tomorrow I'll post the thread and we can get this party started. For me to win, I have to convince people that Cap can take at least 5/10 in a h2h fight with Spidey under forum rules, and for you to win you have to convince people that Cap CAN'T win at least 5 under forum rules, agreed?

BTW do you want to have actual judges, or just allow the onlookers to vote? Also, how long do you want the match to last?

Only 5? There has to be a clear winner. I'll say like 6/10. And I would like this battle to be at least 2 hours. And yes we should have actual judges.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Only 5? There has to be a clear winner. I'll say like 6/10. And I would like this battle to be at least 2 hours. And yes we should have actual judges.

An ok on actual judges(I'd suggest the mods if you want to guarantee impartiality). As for match length, I was actually thinking of something like 24 hours total to give us each time to find counter evidence for the others scans.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But I don't think there IS a clear winner. I don't have issues with people thinking Spidey wins 5 or 6/10 because I consider the characters to be peers. My issue is with people like you saying Spidey wins 10/10 because he's far superior to Cap in every physical category. I'm not actually arguing that Cap will WIN, I'm just trying to prove that Spidey doesn't have the fight in the bag as you and others are claiming.

An ok on actual judges(I'd suggest the mods if you want to guarantee impartiality). As for match length, I was actually thinking of something like 24 hours total to give us each time to find counter evidence for the others scans.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I ever said that. So guest there is a no point then after all. I've said that Spidey would win 5.5-6/10.

Who there thinks Cap takes 7/10, I've seen someone saying that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah see then we had some confusion because I thought you were one of the people acting like Cap couldn't even score a single win because Spidey was in a whole different league of speed. If you're acknowledging that Cap's speed is close enough to Spidey's to tag him as often as vice versa then we're cool.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
The speed difference may not be big. But it is still there. Spidey's reflexes and agility on the other hand, are second to none. I gave Spidey 8/10 before. After looking through everything, I'll give Spidey a 5.5-6/10. Because Cap is still at a disadvantage without his shield, in-spite of knowing how Spidey fights. It still isn't enough to get the majority over Spidey while he's going all out. Cap's shield would have been the perfect weapon to block a lot of Spidey blows. Spidey knows that Cap is a much better fighter. And NYC is Spidey's playground. Cap can keep up with Spidey in close combat, but not if Spider-Man uses his advantages along with his environment.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
darth this is my post from page 48. So we're cool.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah my bad then, that must have been one of the pages that came and went while I was away from the computer. I thought you were still debating under the premise of Spidey winning 8/10 😎 .

No problem samshsmokin

Originally posted by darthgoober
In combat, sure...
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3664/avengersv305accusationmcc8.jpg

As you can clearly see, the third image of Cap swings his body to one side to avoid the bullets, then in the forth image Cap's jumped and is now in front of the bullets.

You grossly misinterpret the scan. The different images of CA shows the progression of his movement. The image where CA is turned sideways, seemingly avoiding the bullets by inches, is a totally different image than
than the one where you think he's in front of them. By that time the actual bullets are far ahead of him.

If you actually think that CA is faster than a bullet then you lose much respect. Personally, I think you're lying. FWIW, one has to only be able to move less than 1/10 of a bullet's speed to avoid getting hit (assuming the bullet is shot at least 10 feet away).

If CA is faster than bullets in combat then he is equivalent to classic Quicksilver. 😆

Anyway, CA can't be faster than bullets if he ran a mile in little over a minute under duress. Also, if CA never had a shield then he would have gotten hit a long time ago. Do you know how many times CA had to block bullets when going through an area?

And I'm willing to bet you anything that if we (or I) ask the CA's writers whether CA move faster than a bullet they would say no. This is if you truly believe that CA is faster than bullets of course.

Lastly, you gave the wrong answer. And for that much respect is lost (unless you were lying of course).