Originally posted by Faceman
Agreed. But it has worked for him in the past as well. So if we are to take it into account that it has worked, then it can be used here as evidence in Spideys favor...
Sure it's worked....
Against everything and everyone both high end street levels with a wealth of h2h experience and skill.
Originally posted by Faceman
Cool. But I think it’s safe to say that this one is on par with that one…
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I wont look at the scans, if he's using his shield...... 🙄 [/B][/QUOTE]
Did you notice that When Cap fought Spiderman last he didnt use his shield to defend himself. *shrug*
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I wont look at the scans, if he's using his shield...... 🙄
Did you notice that When Cap fought Spiderman last he didnt use his shield to defend himself. *shrug*
Stop trying to use BS proof. That wasn't spider-Man fighting at his best. And Spider-Man has been hit by far stronger people than Cap. For him to be hurt by Cap's fist is retarded.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Stop trying to use BS proof. That wasn't spider-Man fighting at his best. And Spider-Man has been hit by far stronger people than Cap. For him to be hurt by Cap's fist is retarded.
Cap's fist hurting Spiderman is retarded. And yet you gave Batman 4 wins against a blood lusted Spiderman. And how is Batman supposed to hurt Spiderman in that thread that you had him winning 4 fights by your logic.........
Tickling him..............LOL
Originally posted by Battlehammer
it true.................the capt supporters have vallid arguements, provide evidences and generally are proving there points.spiderman supporters have very shitty arguements, ignore evidences, provide little to no evidences to prove there points and are allowing there bias to skrew there opinions
Alright then. Let's just do it here and now.
(I actually forgot your decision on this match, whether it was in Cap's favor or that he gets a few wins) Give your "valid" argument for why Cap either wins, ties, or gets at least 4/10. Provide evidence and prove your point.
Then once you've done that, I'll do my best to give you my valid argument as to why Spider-Man wins/gets a healthy majority. I, too, will do my best to provide evidence and prove my point.
Go for it. 🥷
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Stop trying to use BS proof. That wasn't spider-Man fighting at his best.
A clone of Spiderman that was not holding back said that he could not take Cap.....
Originally posted by MarvelknightAnd Spider-Man has been hit by far stronger people than Cap. For him to be hurt by Cap's fist is retarded.
Cap has hurt people far stronger than Spiderman hundreds of times.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
A clone of Spiderman that was not holding back said that he could not take Cap.....Cap has hurt people far stronger than Spiderman hundreds of times.
No offense, but that's pretty damn faulty logic there. Scarlet Spider (I assume you're referring to him) had the same power as Spidey, but NOWHERE NEAR the experience, the fighting ability, nor the ingenuity that Peter has.
And Spidey has hurt people EXCEEDINGLY stronger than Cap hundreds of times. What's your point?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
No offense, but that's pretty damn faulty logic there. Scarlet Spider (I assume you're referring to him) had the same power as Spidey, but NOWHERE NEAR the experience, the fighting ability, nor the ingenuity that Peter has.
Nope im nor refering to him im refering to Kangs robot clone. The Spiderman clone was so much like Spiderman the only way he beat it was by finding the off switch.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And Spidey has hurt people EXCEEDINGLY stronger than Cap hundreds of times. What's your point?
Cap has rolled with punches from a Skull Collosus and he can take class 10 punches. 😬
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nope im nor refering to him im refering to Kangs robot clone. The Spiderman clone was so much like Spiderman the only way he beat it was by finding the off switch.Cap has rolled with punches from a Skull Collosus and he can take class 10 punches. 😬
Ah. So a ROBOT clone said that he couldn't take Cap. Guess that means a whole lot. 🙄
Spidey has rolled with Hulk punches. Can Cap take a direct 15-ton punch to the face without the use of his shield and be alright? I posit: no.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah. So a ROBOT clone said that he couldn't take Cap. Guess that means a whole lot. 🙄
Read and comprehend.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The Spiderman clone was so much like Spiderman the only way he beat it was by finding the off switch.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey has rolled with Hulk punches.
Hulks punches in general are not as fast as Caps irrelevant.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Can Cap take a direct 15-ton punch to the face without the use of his shield and be alright? I posit: no.
He took 3 class 20 shots from Powerman a superhuman Red Skull used his head as a wrecking ball....oh I know its all PIS.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Read and comprehend.Hulks punches in general are not as fast as Caps irrelevant.
He took 3 class 20 shots from Powerman a superhuman Red Skull used his head as a wrecking ball....oh I know its all PIS.
No, I read what you wrote quite well. "The Spiderman clone was so much like Spiderman the only way he beat it was by finding the off switch." I get it. But you should also know that robot clones are hardly ever anywhere as good as the original. Even when they say things like that. Unless, of course, this was the 1/100000 chance that this robot was as good.
Hah...I love the way you take something I said to counter you and bring something else out of it. You used the evidence of Cap taking a Skrull Colossus punch, not mentioning at all the speed of the punch. I counter wtih Spidey taking Hulk's punches (who, by the way, does sometimes exhibit a form of low-level superhuman speed; he's tagged Quicksilver before), which are even greater than Skrull-Colossus. You say it's irrelevant. I say poor show, ol' chap. Cap's punches are also not as fast as Spidey's. Irrelevant? I think not.
Did you hear me scream PIS? If I wanted to do that, I would've just mentioned all the times that Spidey could defeat many of his opponents if not for the opponent's need to win/hold his own in order to further the plot. But I'm not.
By the way, I am not trying to discredit Cap's durability. He is hella durable. My point is that Spidey is easily strong enough to breach said durability and hurt him.
Side question: Scorpion is stronger, faster, and more durable than Cap. Do you agree with this?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
No, I read what you wrote quite well. "The Spiderman clone was so much like Spiderman the only way he beat it was by finding the off switch." I get it. But you should also know that robot clones are hardly ever anywhere as good as the original. Even when they say things like that. Unless, of course, this was the 1/100000 chance that this robot was as good.
My good God. Clones are usually not as good as there counterparts but this one is the exception to the rule. Did you understand that the fact that the clone was stalemating Spiderman is evidence that they were similar in abilty do you know that the robot was using the exact same techinques that Spiderman was using ie turning his webbing into wings? Basically the point has gone completely and utterly over your head otherwise you would not have posted that response.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hah...I love the way you take something I said to counter you and bring something else out of it. You used the evidence of Cap taking a Skrull Colossus punch, not mentioning at all the speed of the punch.
I dont have to the fact that the Skrull was many times stronger than Spiderman compensates for the speed difference and furthermore if is a replica of Collsus it probably has enhanced speed to an extent. Dont you dare try to accuse my of trying to do anything you've brought absolutely nothing to this debate. Im taking lip from the guy who says that Beast can beat Captain America in H2H despite the fact he got his ass handed to him.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I counter wtih Spidey taking Hulk's punches (who, by the way, does sometimes exhibit a form of low-level superhuman speed; he's tagged Quicksilver before), which are even greater than Skrull-Colossus. You say it's irrelevant. I say poor show, ol' chap. Cap's punches are also not as fast as Spidey's. Irrelevant? I think not.
Yes its still irrevelant because Cap and street levelers have shown many times that they can hurt and KO Spiderman, but just because you got an example of Spiderman rolling with Hulks punch dont mean a goddman thing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Did you hear me scream PIS? If I wanted to do that, I would've just mentioned all the times that Spidey could defeat many of his opponents if not for the opponent's need to win/hold his own in order to further the plot. But I'm not.
.....and I already told you that a robot clone of Spiderman was not holding back and could not take Cap in H2H. Spidermans punches are faster? Caps punches are more effective.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
By the way, I am not trying to discredit Cap's durability. He is hella durable. My point is that Spidey is easily strong enough to breach said durability and hurt him.
Of course he can hurt him but Cap is capable of taking full force class 10 punches
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Side question: Scorpion is stronger, faster, and more durable than Cap. Do you agree with this?
To tell the truth I dont think hes faster and what?
