Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Started by Marvelknight90 pages

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The robot clone was not holding back against Cap for the millenth time. You lose end of story.

That's just one fight and it's not the real SM. That's desperate and weak.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
That's just one fight and it's not the real SM. That's desperate and weak.

Er...

1. Spiderman AND the Spiderman clone said they cant take Cap in H2H so thats not just one example.
2. The robot clone was so much like Spiderman that it was stalemating Spiderman and Spiderman only won by finding the off switch.

Now what?

FL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spidey clone and Cap. Now What? You can't stop me, I'll keep coming back.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
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Yeah, I know it's game over for you. Next?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
FL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spidey clone and Cap. Now What?

😂
Now what? Easy.. Cap's still> Spidey

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7031/captainamericakicksassqu7.jpg

Originally posted by Marvelknight
FL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spidey clone and Cap. Now What? You can't stop me, I'll keep coming back.

Your right we can't stop you from posting. But your argument pretty much do that for themselves.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah, I know it's game over for you. Next?

No im just looking for Daredevils1s post concerning this.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
FL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spidey clone and Cap. Now What? You can't stop me, I'll keep coming back.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Are you even hearing your logic. There was a lot of PIS, CIS and even AIS(artist induced Stupidy for that). Which made it somewhat plausible. Firelord was WEAKENED due to destroying a planetoid as he stated he wanted to rest on earth. Firelord even stated he was HOLDING BACK a lot and could have incinerated the area but chose not too.

Its like me bringing up a feat of Cap hurting and making bleed a watered down Onslaught.

Now what?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah, I know it's game over for you. Next?

Actually his . Is a greater counter then any argument you've created.

Seriously your debate logic is that much non-existent a "." is suffice. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
It's like nobody from the Spidey side gets that regardless of plotlines the fights still prove undeniable facts concerning:
Cap has durability to stand up to Spiderman as he took a hit from Spiderman with his sheild.
Cap's punches can and will hurt Spiderman.
Cap knows nerve strikes, PROVEN effective on Spiderman.
Spiderman's speed, agility, nor Spider Sense have proven too much for Cap to compensate for.
Cap thinks he can beat Spidey.
Spidey thinks Cap can beat Spidey.
Spidey clones think Cap can beat Spidey.
and on panel objective narratives describe Cap as dealing with stronger, more powerful foes than Spidey and always prevailing; totally undermining Spiderman to Cap in comparison.

But hey, if you don't like it right?

^

Originally posted by jinzin
😂
Now what? Easy.. Cap's still> Spidey

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7031/captainamericakicksassqu7.jpg

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Your right we can't stop you from posting. But your argument pretty much do that for themselves.

samsmokin The sad part is that both of you been here longer and I know the rules better than you both.

1. You think you can post a scan of CA and SM's fights (which had no clear winner) as proof of who would win. If it was that simple, KMC wouldn't have over a 1000 pages of threads, most of these characters have faced each other already. That's why KMC has a rule of no pis and every character must fight at the best of their abilities, unless the thread maker said otherwise.

2. Characters win by "MAJORITY".

3. Nothing is absolute. And everybody loses. And you can't take what a character saids all the time as proof. Batman once wondered if he could even beat Lady Shiva, and even after thinking like that, he did it. Superman has defeated Darkseid (And that really shouldn't happen), Cap himself has put down foes who has taken on far more powerful than him. Those kind of things can happen in comics. A vs forum is different.

So with that said........ sampunch To anyone who thinks that Cap will win the majority because of a few unfinished scuffles.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
samsmokin The sad part is that both of you been here longer and I know the rules better than you both.

Which is why you keep defecting to SM vs. FL despite it being the outliner for what KMC considers PIS right?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
1. You think you can post a scan of CA and SM's fights (which had no clear winner) as proof of who would win. If it was that simple, KMC wouldn't have over a 1000 pages of threads, most of these characters have faced each other already. That's why KMC has a rule of no pis and every character must fight at the best of their abilities, unless the thread maker said otherwise.

Uh no... we posted those fights as proof for:

>>>"Cap has durability to stand up to Spiderman as he took a hit from Spiderman with his sheild.
Cap's punches can and will hurt Spiderman.
Cap knows nerve strikes, PROVEN effective on Spiderman.
Spiderman's speed, agility, nor Spider Sense have proven too much for Cap to compensate for.
Cap thinks he can beat Spidey.
Spidey thinks Cap can beat Spidey.
Spidey clones think Cap can beat Spidey.
and on panel objective narratives describe Cap as dealing with stronger, more powerful foes than Spidey and always prevailing; totally undermining Spiderman to Cap in comparison."<<<

Which gives a fairly decent indication as to who would win here.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
2. Characters win by "MAJORITY".

And Cap's beaten Spiderman or held an advantage over him a MAJORITY of the time. In fact it's been by the majority of 100%.. 😐

Originally posted by Marvelknight
3. Nothing is absolute. And everybody loses.

And you think this somehow makes facts and feats totally irrelivent because......?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
And you can't take what a character saids all the time as proof.

But Spiderman's 40x faster than a human right?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Batman once wondered if he could even beat Lady Shiva, and even after thinking like that, he did it.

Dumbass example as Shiva was under the influence of mind control. AND, this example ignores the difference between WONDERING if you can beat someone who you've never fought free of circumstances before, and ADMITTING you CAN'T beat someone who's laying the smackdown upon your ass at that very moment.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Superman has defeated Darkseid (And that really shouldn't happen),

What the hell does that have to do with anything in this debate? 😕

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap himself has put down foes who has taken on far more powerful than him. Those kind of things can happen in comics.

Which is why it's stupid to say that Spiderman wins based on titles like "superhuman"....

Originally posted by Marvelknight
A vs forum is different.

In some aspects, but we still USE COMICS as the standard of evidence that makes the bulk of facts we use to debate with here.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
So with that said........ sampunch To anyone who thinks that Cap will win the majority because of a few unfinished scuffles.
Unfinished with cap having a solid advantage in all of them..... 🙄

So basically 70 some pages later and it's still "I have no evidence to support my ass, no leg to stand on, or facts to prove my points, but I can ignore all yours and say I'm still right... If I don't like it.. it didn't happen..."

This is funny. In terms of debating prowesses. The Capt supporters have been dominating the spiderman supporters.

Originally posted by Faceman
You're right..
Spidey can also take a good punch darth..Here he takes a good one from Namor..
1. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/100.jpg
2. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/101.jpg
3. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/102.jpg
4. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/104.jpg
5. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/105.jpg

Impressive… but here’s the thing, taking skilled strikes to vulnerable parts of the body like pressure points is very different than just taking a shot from a brick. As we see here…
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc7wj3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc8wu5.jpg

…despite Spidey’s enhanced strength/durability he’s still vulnerable to pressure point strikes. Now I know what you’re thinking “He was only able to affect Spidey with a nerve strike because he’s Captain America” right? Well then take a look at this…

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/4769/feat39fight5tc1.jpg

Now unless there’s some instance of a pressure point attack not working against Spidey that I’m unaware of, I’d say that those two instances are ample evidence exist to indicate Spidey’s vulnerability to them since it happened under two different writers involving two different characters.

Originally posted by Faceman
And against your guy darth..

1. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/1-2.jpg
2. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/2-2.jpg
3. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/3-2.jpg
4. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/4-2.jpg
5. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/5-2.jpg
6. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/6-2.jpg
7. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/7-2.jpg
8. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/8-2.jpg
9. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/9-2.jpg
10. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/10-2.jpg
11. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/11-2.jpg
12. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/12-2.jpg

Spidey can take anything Cap has to offer, and more....Also, if the fight takes place in a city environment. Whats to stop Spidey from useing a street pole, or something heavy in the environment to use as a clubing weapon agaisnt Cap .

Well as others have already mentioned lamppost’s and such aren’t allowed, but as for the fight I must admit it’s impressive. Then again so is this…

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6517/talesofsuspense8119po2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4720/talesofsuspense8120av0.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7383/talesofsuspense8121wy3.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6403/talesofsuspense8124wa6.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1962/talesofsuspense8125no2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7569/talesofsuspense8126sz5.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7339/talesofsuspense8127az5.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8020/talesofsuspense8129lt7.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3842/talesofsuspense8130mu5.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9043/talesofsuspense8131zz9.jpg

Originally posted by Faceman
Escaping the Hulks grip with a strike. Can you imagine what that strike would have done to Caps back ?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/36.jpg

Pretty cool. Here’s one of Cap breaking Hulk’s grip with a kick…
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6715/captainamerica110nolongak6.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1778/captainamerica110nolongid3.jpg

Can you imagine what that kick would have done to Spidey’s jaw?

Originally posted by Faceman
Momentarily knocking the Hulk back with a punch.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/38.jpg

Puts Hulk on his knees by striking a vulnerable part of the body…
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2284/captainamerica230assauluo8.jpg

Originally posted by Faceman
Anyway here's Spidey in a quick tussle with the Classic Avengers...

1. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/33.jpg
2. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/34.jpg
3. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/paladin123456/35.jpg

Cool. But I think it’s safe to say that this one is on par with that one…
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5219/avengersv101009rp7.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/763/avengersv101010ef8.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5690/avengersv101011uv8.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Impressive… but here’s the thing, taking skilled strikes to vulnerable parts of the body like pressure points is very different than just taking a shot from a brick. As we see here…
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc7wj3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc8wu5.jpg

…despite Spidey’s enhanced strength/durability he’s still vulnerable to pressure point strikes. Now I know what you’re thinking “He was only able to affect Spidey with a nerve strike because he’s Captain America” right? Well then take a look at this…

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/4769/feat39fight5tc1.jpg

Now unless there’s some instance of a pressure point attack not working against Spidey that I’m unaware of, I’d say that those two instances are ample evidence exist to indicate Spidey’s vulnerability to them since it happened under two different writers involving two different characters.

Well as others have already mentioned lamppost’s and such aren’t allowed, but as for the fight I must admit it’s impressive. Then again so is this…

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6517/talesofsuspense8119po2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4720/talesofsuspense8120av0.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7383/talesofsuspense8121wy3.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6403/talesofsuspense8124wa6.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1962/talesofsuspense8125no2.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7569/talesofsuspense8126sz5.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7339/talesofsuspense8127az5.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8020/talesofsuspense8129lt7.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3842/talesofsuspense8130mu5.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9043/talesofsuspense8131zz9.jpg

Pretty cool. Here’s one of Cap breaking Hulk’s grip with a kick…
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6715/captainamerica110nolongak6.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1778/captainamerica110nolongid3.jpg

Can you imagine what that kick would have done to Spidey’s jaw?

Puts Hulk on his knees by striking a vulnerable part of the body…
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2284/captainamerica230assauluo8.jpg

Cool. But I think it’s safe to say that this one is on par with that one…
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5219/avengersv101009rp7.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/763/avengersv101010ef8.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5690/avengersv101011uv8.jpg

To be honest, all the Spider-Man feats were more impressive.

the most impressive cap feats that matter is when he beat spider-man every time they fought.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the most impressive cap feats that matter is when he beat spider-man every time they fought.

He never beat SM, get your facts straight.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
He never beat SM, get your facts straight.

But spiderman sure didn't have anything to be proud of during there fights.