Popular Liberal radio host admits to distributing child porn.

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then we forgive the earlier poster for feeling that way.
Can't ostracize folks for being human.

Sure, Im sure we've all said we'd love to go out and kill someone at some point for some reason or another, and true what Schect says, It'd be perhaps wrong to go out murdering people that haven't done that thing to me directly, but I won't be losing any sleep if a proven nonce should be revenged upon by the families of the victims neither.

Millions of years of evolution and genetics are hard to override at the best of times, let alone when it comes to something as base-level as that.

Of course. I understand the reasons, but if the irrationality then influences the laws is where I'd draw the line.

Also, nothing wrong with stating that something is ridiculous, even if you understand the reasons why people say it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'd very much prefer an individual basis than just a weird blanket law.

Also, the ideas of castration then feeding the molester the balls and raping him with a rusty spike...just doesn't fit the crime. Sorry, but a 10 year old that gets touche on the pee-pee doesn't have to suffer extensive traumata throughout his live...the action itself really doesn't merit it at all.

No need for all that.... A ironically 'humane' injection will do.
(The irony would be that that humanity would then be wasted on those bereft of it.)

And thats a very confident assertion, your second point.
And how you can make it, is beyond me, given that you've just indicated that you had an understanding of where the public outrage comes from.

Worse than blanket policies, are groups that advocate peodophila, IMO.

i dont know, i just think its kinda ****ed up to fantasize about murdering a criminal and claiming sentimental irrationality when the victim of said criminal is of no aquaintance....i find it deeply disturbing in fact.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course. I understand the reasons, but if the irrationality then influences the laws is where I'd draw the line.

Also, nothing wrong with stating that something is ridiculous, even if you understand the reasons why people say it.

I feel your points, I really do. But if an adult man were to ever touch my adolescent daughter, he will probably die by my hand or be near death once the authorities find him.

Didn't say it was rational or humane, but it's true. I don't see myself giving a **** about the justice system at that very moment. If I somehow came across the guy then it's curtains for him.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No need for all that.... A ironically 'humane' injection will do.
(The irony would be that that humanity would then be wasted on those bereft of it.)

And thats a very confident assertion, your second point.
And how you can make it, is beyond me, given that you've just indicated that you had an understanding of where the public outrage comes from.

Worse than blanket policies, are groups that advocate peodophila, IMO.

You seem like a rational person. I'll assume you have disagreed with people before without yelling.

You have never found yourself able to agree to disagree with someone? You might completely understand the logic, but just not agree. I do understand where Bardock is coming from, I just do not completely agree on all points. That's fine, isn't it?

Originally posted by Bardock42

Also, nothing wrong with stating that something is ridiculous, even if you understand the reasons why people say it.

Agreed.

So exercising that right, I think your stance on this issue is ridulous.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No need for all that.... A ironically 'humane' injection will do.
(The irony would be that that humanity would then be wasted on those bereft of it.)

And thats a very confident assertion, your second point.
And how you can make it, is beyond me, given that you've just indicated that you had an understanding of where the public outrage comes from.

Worse than blanket policies, are groups that advocate peodophila, IMO.

I fully disagree. Understanding where something comes from does in no way justify it. Yes, I understand where Hitler was coming from, yes, I might understand why he killed millions of people and started a huge ass war, but, it does in no way justify it.

Groups that advocate pedophilia, imo, are much less bad than groups that advocate the public torture of child molesters.

Originally posted by chithappens
I feel your points, I really do. But if an adult man were to ever touch my adolescent daughter, he will probably die by my hand or be near death once the authorities find him.

Didn't say it was rational or humane, but it's true. I don't see myself giving a **** about the justice system at that very moment. If I somehow came across the guy then it's curtains for him.

I also understand that point. And I feel with anyone that has to go through it, but it truely doesn't matter. The law is not there to justify the blind vengeance of the victims. And it shouldn't. Yes, if my girlfriend was raped I'd be outraged, if I caught someone doing it I might kill them, I totally dig the Punisher. But when trying to analyze something objectively, that can't and doesn't matter. I'd not behave reasonable in that moment, and, in the long run, I'd probably be happy that there were people that did keep their cool and would have stopped me and lead the offender to true justice, not bloodthirsty revenge.

Originally posted by chithappens
You seem like a rational person. I'll assume you have disagreed with people before without yelling.

You have never found yourself able to agree to disagree with someone? You might completely understand the logic, but just not agree. I do understand where Bardock is coming from, I just do not completely agree on all points. That's fine, isn't it?

Fair play. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Agreed.

So exercising that right, I think your stance on this issue is ridulous.

Haha, fair enough. I think I gave my reasons. And I think they are rational. If we disagree then that's alright.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Groups that advocate pedophilia, imo, are much less bad than groups that advocate the public torture of child molesters.

Not that I endorse murder groups, but regarding the peodo groups, those groups of adults are big and ugly enough to look after themselves, unlike the kids they prey on.

Im siding with the kids still, Im afraid.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Haha, fair enough. I think I gave my reasons. And I think they are rational. If we disagree then that's alright.

Fair enough. Like wise.

Originally posted by Bardock42

I also understand that point. And I feel with anyone that has to go through it, but it truely doesn't matter. The law is not there to justify the blind vengeance of the victims. And it shouldn't. Yes, if my girlfriend was raped I'd be outraged, if I caught someone doing it I might kill them, I totally dig the Punisher. But when trying to analyze something objectively, that can't and doesn't matter. I'd not behave reasonable in that moment, and, in the long run, I'd probably be happy that there were people that did keep their cool and would have stopped me and lead the offender to true justice, not bloodthirsty revenge.

Oh believe me, I would not try to justify it. Like I said, I wouldn't give a ****. It is not a reasonable action and not one I would preach for others to follow, but I could see it happening.

Given time to think it over in hindsight, I would regret it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I fully disagree. Understanding where something comes from does in no way justify it. Yes, I understand where Hitler was coming from, yes, I might understand why he killed millions of people and started a huge ass war, but, it does in no way justify it.

I remember trying to explain that on a college campus... It didn't go to well. People have wars all the time, but yea...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not that I endorse murder groups, but regarding the peodo groups, those groups of adults are big and ugly enough to look after themselves, unlike the kids they prey on.

Im siding with the kids still, Im afraid.

Oh, but I am siding with the kids. I am siding with the kids that truly want sex, and I am siding with those that don't. Either should be fully supported in their personal choice.

Dude.

You know a lot of kids who want sex from adults...?

Sorry mate. I agree with Robtard.

The projection of adult sexual values onto kids is not cool.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dude.

You know a lot of kids who want sex from adults...?

Sorry mate. I agree with Robtard.

The projection of adult sexual values onto kids is not cool.

Nope.

Don't know a lot of people who really want to kill themselves either though. But I am all for their freedom to get it done if they want.

Nope? So what do you base that belief on?

But if they top 'em selves, (providing they like don't drop from a building onto someone else or something) its just themselves they are affecting.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dude.

You know a lot of kids who want sex from adults...?

Sorry mate. I agree with Robtard.

The projection of adult sexual values onto kids is not cool.

But that's what you two are doing. You project the adults view that children can't in any way want to have sex. It's just not true.

I wanted to have sex at least since I was 12. With Movie Stars. Adult Movie Stars.

Why should I be denied that, if given the chance, because adults think that all 12 year olds are asexual idiots?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope? So what do you base that belief on?

But if they top 'em selves, (providing they like don't drop from a building onto someone else or something) its just themselves they are affecting.

It's a hypothetical.

If they want they should be allowed to.

That's what I am saying.

So if they want to find out tongue first what the orangey glowey bars taste like on an old electric heater, then they should be able to while you stand by, watch and do nothing...?

Also, I think here's a misunderstanding. I am not saying that Adults should always be allowed to have sex with children.

I am saying children should be able to decide whether they want to have sex.

And someone killing themselves, certainly affects others more than a kid ****ing someone.