Who can beat the Spectre?

Started by fangirl10125 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
What's this sipping waffle.

Nice dodge.

Interesting, I thought I just showed you another.

Jeesh, you're an intransigent fellow, no offense but come on.

Bull shit .. if you're gonna start the lying, I'm gonna call you on it.

So far you've just been talking out of your ass, and it's amusing,
but don't start the despicable lies.

Yea, as far as you know,
unfortunately you're not the center of Marvel cosmic information.

I already showed you an Alternate UN,
and I also showed you that Alternate UN erasing an entire Universe.

Merlyn has existed FAR longer than those heroes,
so I don't care when it took place,
Merlyn placed the life-force of the Omniverse in his crystals
before those heroes were born.

you showed us uatu talking about an infinite amount of possibilities. just where do all these infinite possibilities come from but the 616? i've never heard of a what if, producing a what if. nice try tho.

Originally posted by fangirl101

there are two points,
one, kismet was said to be held with her counterpart.
she is the guardian of the multiverse for dc.
her counterpart there for HAS TO BE 616 galatus.
that means, that the un in the story could only be 616 galactus becuz no other un can destroy the 616.


I don't care what crack was spilt about Kismet.

That was not 616 Eternity.

In your mind Kismet is Marvel's Multiverse's counter-part,
but not in comic book reality.

Originally posted by fangirl101

two,
the un in the story could destroy the universe. they were in the 616.
it has to be the UN of the 616. and wasn't korvak's universe a small universe or somethign like that? i dont' know all the details of that story.


Nah, Korvac's Universe (an ENTIRE Universe) was a fake copy of 616.

Nice try.

You have absolutely no proof that was 616, or the 616 UN,
or anything else for that matter.

Again, Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse,
give it up already.

Originally posted by fangirl101

and trust me, you didn't refute my argument.
you didn't address the fact that eternity was held with his counter part.


You must be under the impression,
that anything that's stated and/or depicted in that comedy concerns me. lol.

Again, Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse,
give it up already.

Originally posted by fangirl101

that there is only one galactus born
and the others come from a divergence in the time line.
time begins in marvel AFTER galactus's birth into the new universe.


lmfao

Even though I just showed you another Galactus being born
and it had nothing to do with any divergence in the timeline,
and it also had nothing to do with Galactus being the born into a new universe.

Love the way you just installed that in my scans.

Slick, but not that slick.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't care what crack was spilt about Kismet.

That was not 616 Eternity.

In your mind Kismet is Marvel's Multiverse's counter-part,
but not in comic book reality.

Nah, Korvac's Universe (an ENTIRE Universe) was a fake copy of 616.

Nice try.

You have absolutely no proof that was 616, or the 616 UN,
or anything else for that matter.

Again, Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse,
give it up already.

You must be under the impression,
that anything that's stated and/or depicted in that comedy concerns me. lol.

Again, Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse,
give it up already.

lmfao

Even though I just showed you another Galactus being born
and it had nothing to do with any divergence in the timeline,
and it also had nothing to do with Galactus being the born into a new universe.

Love the way you just installed that in my scans.

Slick, but not that slick.


your scan means nothing without the before and after. also, basically your saying no matter what was said in the book, you just refuse to accept the evidencce. you call it a comedy and just dont' want to accept the story. that is fine. that is all i need to see. we are done. you obviously made up your mind about the subject and no matter of pointing things out will change it. nice to know that you are open minded and can see other points of views. truly the mark of an excellent debator. have a nice nite.

Btw.

I love the way you can't admit like a true debater
you were proven wrong right here:

Originally posted by fangirl101
there is also only one UN as far as I know.

and if there others,

none have shown the power to destroy a universe.

Originally posted by fangirl101
no other un's have the destructive power of THE UN.

Alternate UN erasing an entire Universe with the flick of a switch:

Be real dogs, own up. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Btw.

I love the way you can't admit like a true debater
you were proven wrong right here:

Alternate UN erasing an entire Universe with the flick of a switch:

Be real dogs, own up. 🙂


ur asking me to own up when you haven't owned up to several things I pointed out? and I don't know what universe that was. what book that is in. i know nothing of the story. i thought korvak's universe was a pocket universe. how then does that equate to the universe destroying power of the real un?

Originally posted by fangirl101

you showed us uatu talking about an infinite amount of possibilities. just where do all these infinite possibilities come from but the 616? i've never heard of a what if, producing a what if. nice try tho.


dontgetit

Guess you think becoming circular will distract the olookers.

"Nice try?"

Nice try!

Originally posted by fangirl101

your scan means nothing without the before and after.

Before:

During:

After:

Let's read your next spin on the facts. ... swank

Originally posted by fangirl101

also, basically your saying no matter what was said in the book, you just refuse to accept the evidencce. you call it a comedy and just dont' want to accept the story. that is fine. that is all i need to see. we are done. you obviously made up your mind about the subject and no matter of pointing things out will change it. nice to know that you are open minded and can see other points of views. truly the mark of an excellent debator. have a nice nite.


😆

Accept what evidence?

Dude, are you high?

"Made up my mind?" ... 😂

I'm the one presenting proof!

You got jokes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

Guess you think becoming circular will distract the olookers.

"Nice try?"

Nice try!

Before:

During:

After:

Let's read your next spin on the facts. ... swank

😆

Accept what evidence?

Dude, are you high?

"Made up my mind?" ... 😂

I'm the one presenting proof!

You got jokes.

Alternate UN erasing an entire Universe with the flick of a switch:

Be real dogs, own up. 🙂

[/B][/QUOTE] as i stated, wasn't korvak's universe a pocket one? how does that then equate to destroying a universe? also is the fact that metron had happened upon the marvel reality, and krona had been search many realities. why would metron waste his time on an alternate? why would krona? what the ****? that makes no sense and you cannot wiggle out of that. i didn't become circular. no what if can become a what if. the watcher was clearly talking about infinite possibilities which means he was talking about events that spin out of the 616. there is only one birth of galactus. hell didn't it even say that in the abraxas arc. or something approaching that? i'm most certain it did. let me look in the thread and see what i come up with.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i thought korvak's universe was a pocket universe.

how then does that equate to the universe destroying power of the real un?


A question that can only exist due to determined intransigence.

Because I just showed you it was an entire Universe, (Earth-82432)
and you come back with, "i thought korvak's universe was a pocket universe"
really,
I challenge you to find even a single shred of evidence that even alludes to that idea.

Same ol, same ol. ... durznuts

Originally posted by Mr Master
A question that can only exist due to determined intransigence.

Because I just showed you it was a entire Universe, (Earth-82432)
and you come back with, "i thought korvak's universe was a pocket universe"
really,
I challenge you to find even a single shred of evidence that even alludes to that idea.

Same ol, same ol. ... durznuts

ur challenge to me doesn't mean that the evidence doesn't exist. as a matter of fact, i sumise you know full well that it is a pocket universe, and would refuse to give it becuz it would be lesson your argument. i don't care. your challenge only tells me that you refuse to answer the question. is it a pocket universe? oh one other thing, according to this, the marvel multiverse isn't infinite. it's one less. how quant.

Originally posted by fangirl101

as i stated


I know what you stated, incredibly mis-informed ideas.

I corrected them with on panel evidence,
you return with the same ignorance.

Originally posted by fangirl101

wasn't korvak's universe a pocket one?
how does that then equate to destroying a universe?


dontgetit

Originally posted by fangirl101

also is the fact that metron had happened upon the marvel reality, and krona had been search many realities. why would metron waste his time on an alternate? why would krona? what the ****? that makes no sense and you cannot wiggle out of that. i didn't become circular. no what if can become a what if. the watcher was clearly talking about infinite possibilities which means he was talking about events that spin out of the 616. there is only one birth of galactus. hell didn't it even say that in the abraxas arc. or something approaching that? i'm most certain it did. let me look in the thread and see what i come up with.


ka-dur

Originally posted by fangirl101

ur challenge to me doesn't mean that the evidence doesn't exist.
as a matter of fact,
i sumise you know full well that it is a pocket universe,
and would refuse to give it becuz it would be lesson your argument.

i don't care.


nuts4

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthkorvacconquers.htm

"as a matter of fact" huh?

Originally posted by fangirl101

your challenge only tells me that you refuse to answer the question.

is it a pocket universe?


I thought I addressed this like 3 times,
again, are you high?

Originally posted by fangirl101

oh one other thing, according to this, the marvel multiverse isn't infinite.

it's one less. how quant.


One Universe that's been replaced infinite times since 1982.
(Eternity is birthing entire UniverseS continuously)

According to Marvel Comics: (21st century)

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe,
a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE
"

Nice try on the continuous fallacies you're trying to germinate the forum with.

Originally posted by Mr Master nuts4http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthkorvacconquers.htm"as a matter of fact" huh?I thought I addressed this like 3 times,again, are you high?
it would appear that this is an alternate universe. i'm confused as how the 616 people and items were able to pierce this universe which was shielded. i'm also confused at how much of korvak's own power aided him. since it shows him bonding to eternity or something like that. at any rate, you haven't dealt with the fact that there is only one galactus that has seen the beggining of time. all others have not. they are copies of the original. coming from alternate diversions. what ifs all come from a point of divergence in the 616. there can be no other galactus born from the old universe. there was no time to diverge from yet.

Originally posted by Mr Master
According to this, according to that, blah, blah, blah!

According to Marvel Comics:

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe,
a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE
"

Nice try on the continuous fallacies you're trying to germinate the forum with.

boundless can simply mean each universe with in it has no bounds. unlimited lateral expansion.

Originally posted by fangirl101

it would appear that this is an alternate universe.


is that what it appears like?

I think I was telling you that from the beginning.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i'm confused as how the 616 people
and items were able to pierce this universe which was shielded.


Only cat to enter in there was the LT and the Watcher.

Everyone else was part of that Alternate Universe.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i'm also confused at how much of korvak's own power aided him.
since it shows him bonding to eternity or something like that.


This has nothing to do with the fact that an Alternate UN erased an entire Universe.

But continue to try and find a proverbial loophole, or the classic spin.

Originally posted by fangirl101

at any rate,
you haven't dealt with the fact that there is only one galactus that has seen the beggining of time. all others have not. they are copies of the original. coming from alternate diversions. what ifs all come from a point of divergence in the 616. there can be no other galactus born from the old universe. there was no time to diverge from yet.


I never said that was the Galactus from the old Universe,
I just wanted you to see that Alternate Galactuses are also being born in the Multiverse,
just like the original one was born.

So, Galactus doesn't help you case.

Galactus will never be able to explain how Marvel and DC share the same Multiverse.

You see, as long as that is a reality stuck to this cross-over,
the cross-over is inconsequential and meaningless.

Originally posted by fangirl101

boundless can simply mean each universe with in it has no bounds.
unlimited lateral expansion.


Nice spin.

I'll just come back with proof to dismiss unsupported speculations.

"Man's Universe (Multiverse)
has it's own Infinite number of variants known as Alternate Universes,
explored by the Watchers
. (the Watchers explore the Multiverse)

Let me know if you need more, I can flood the page.

Originally posted by Mr Master
is that what it appears like?

I think I was telling you that from the beginning.

Only cat to enter in there was the LT and the Watcher.

Everyone else was part of that Alternate Universe.

This has nothing to do with the fact that an Alternate UN erased an entire Universe.

But continue to try and find a proverbial loophole, or the classic spin.

I never said that was the Galactus from the old Universe,
I just wanted you to see that Alternate galactus are also being born in the Multiverse,
just like the original one was born.

So, Galactus doesn't help you case.

Galactus will never be able to explain how Marvel and DC share the same Multiverse.

You see, as long as that is a reality stuck to this cross-over,
the cross-over is inconsequential and meaningless.

as long as eternity is said to be the counter part to kismet, the reality is, it's the multiveternity as kismet is the multiversal guardian of dc.

that what if seems good. but how did the phoenix survive? and the silver surfer? how did uatu survive? why did the lt decide that his ultimate punishment didn't work so he would just seal off the universe? the un survived that death. then why couldn't that be the one un? since korvak could effect other universes as per the LT, he had to seal it off. korvak couuldn't call upon the 616 un? in the abraxas arc, wasn't galactus and all of this explained? there was only one un that had that kind of destructive power correct? and abraxas had it right? lotta things about that what if makes sense tho. the un could remake eternity. but eternity wasn't really destroyed all the way as it talked to the three? hmmm. this has been fun, but kismet and eternity are said to be counter parts. galactus is the only guy who had seen the actual beggining of time. and his birth was compared to the actual birth of the dcu. it would be dumb to compare a what if marvel verse to the actual birth of the dc multiverse. so i think i'm fairly confident in my own belief that it was the main dcu and the main marvel 616. if you don't agree, that is fine. it is your right to not agree. but do not ever think your opinion is fact. it's not.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice spin.

I'll just come back with proof to dismiss unsupported speculations.

"Man's Universe (Multiverse)
has it's own [B]Infinite
number of variants known as Alternate Universes,
explored by the Watchers
. (the Watchers explore the Multiverse)

Let me know if you need more, I can flood the page. [/B]

flooding the page is what you seem to be good at. doesn't change the fact that the watcher said that the multiverse was one less than infinite. take it up with the writer. not me. uatu said it. i didn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. He as stomped out of him mind under his own power here by Marvel. The Spectre hostless on his own isnt near the big leaguers.

yep hear we see another post of where marvel all by himself took out the specter =)

Originally posted by fangirl101

as long as eternity is said to be the counter part to kismet, the reality is, it's the multiveternity as kismet is the multiversal guardian of dc.


Whatever you say.

What's the point. 😂

Originally posted by fangirl101

that what if seems good. but how did the phoenix survive? and the silver surfer? how did uatu survive?


Korvac booted them out before he nullified that Universe.

Originally posted by fangirl101

why did the lt decide that his ultimate punishment didn't work
so he would just seal off the universe?


Uhh, 1982 pis. Almost every cosmic story has some.

If the Lt would've saved the day,
then Korvac wouldn't have been able to erase the Universe,
and, that was the intention of the writers obviously.

The LT demonstrated his power by ripping that Universe from the Multiverse,
and sealing it in an impenetrable barrier.

Korvac nullified it anyway. (like I said, that was the point of the story)

Originally posted by fangirl101

the un survived that death. then why couldn't that be the one un?
since korvak could effect other universes as per the LT, he had to seal it off. korvak couuldn't call upon the 616 un?


😂 What?

The 616 UN is the 616 UN, alternates are only within divergent realities. (mirrors of 616)

That Un stayed floating withIn that Eternity,
Strange never took it with him.

That aspect of Eternity was left in peace.

So there's absolutely NO way that was the 616 UN,
besides the fact that simply isn't the 616 UN.

Originally posted by fangirl101

in the abraxas arc, wasn't galactus and all of this explained? there was only one un that had that kind of destructive power correct? and abraxas had it right? lotta things about that what if makes sense tho. the un could remake eternity. but eternity wasn't really destroyed all the way as it talked to the three? hmmm. this has been fun


Your circular reasoning is fun, I get it now, your zooted and your messing with me.

Nice.

Btw. The 616 UN is a Multiversal remaker,
we haven't seen other UN do this,
we've seen alternate/divergent UN's erasing entire Universe though,
and even the Concept of Death itself.

Originally posted by fangirl101

but kismet and eternity are said to be counter parts. galactus is the only guy who had seen the actual beggining of time. and his birth was compared to the actual birth of the dcu. it would be dumb to compare a what if marvel verse to the actual birth of the dc multiverse. so i think i'm fairly confident in my own belief that it was the main dcu and the main marvel 616. if you don't agree, that is fine. it is your right to not agree. but do not ever think your opinion is fact. it's not.


It's a fact that Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse.

Everything else you said falls apart based on that. 🙂