Who can beat the Spectre?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever you say.

What's the point. 😂

Korvac booted them out before he nullified that Universe.

Uhh, 1982 pis. Almost every cosmic story has some.

If the Lt would've saved the day,
then Korvac wouldn't have been able to erase the Universe,
and, that was the intention of the writers obviously.

The LT demonstrated his power by ripping that Universe from the Multiverse,
and sealing it in an impenetrable barrier.

Korvac nullified it anyway. (like I said, that was the point of the story)

😂 What?

The 616 UN is the 616 UN, alternates are only within divergent realities. (mirrors of 616)

That Un stayed floating withIn that Eternity,
Strange never took it with him.

That aspect of Eternity was left in peace.

So there's absolutely NO way that was the 616 UN,
besides the fact that simply [B]isn't the 616 UN.

Your circular reasoning is fun, I get it now, your zooted and your messing with me.

Nice.

Btw. The 616 UN is a Multiversal remaker,
we haven't seen other UN do this,
we've seen alternate/divergent UN's erasing entire Universe though,
and even the Concept of Death itself.

It's a fact that Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse.

Everything else you said falls apart based on that. 🙂 [/B]

you keep saying that as if the story doesn't say the same thing. the story has multieternity and kismet being forcibly merged. thus they obviously don't share the same multiverse. the un is a multiversal remaker, but until that point, it was said to destroy the universe. the un can destroy a universe or the multiverse as it's pretty clear that korvak concentrated on the universe. what would have happened if korvak had been left unsealed? obviously the lt sealed it off for that reason. i'll go buy the abraxas arc and find the missing piece to the puzzle. i know for sure that there is one UN. or some kind of retcon. i'm going out.

Originally posted by fangirl101

flooding the page is what you seem to be good at.

doesn't change the fact that the watcher said that the multiverse was one less than infinite.

take it up with the writer. not me. uatu said it. i didn't.

Yea, doesn't change the fact that Uatu said that in 1982. !!!!

(1982)

But let's completely ignore what Uatu said in 1990:

"Man's Universe (Multiverse)
has it's own Infinite number of variants known as Alternate Universes,
explored by the Watchers. (the Watchers explore the Multiverse)

(1990)

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According to Marvel Comics: (21st century)

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While we're at it,

let's also ignore what the essence of the Universe said in 2001:

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe,
a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

(2001)

But yea, I'm sure the 1982 account is more canon than the rest. dontgetit

Again, you must've missed the part when I told you,
Eternity is birthing entire UniverseS continuously.

Marvel has major issues keeping track of its continuity, down to a single issue. They should really write a an arc or book, where all is explained and answered to keep everything fresh and up-to-date...or mess it up some more. S_S

Originally posted by fangirl101

you keep saying that as if the story doesn't say the same thing.
the story has multieternity and kismet being forcibly merged.
thus they obviously don't share the same multiverse.

Otherwise, stop the comedic claims already.

Originally posted by fangirl101

the un is a multiversal remaker, but until that point, it was said to destroy the universe. the un can destroy a universe or the multiverse as it's pretty clear that korvak concentrated on the universe. what would have happened if korvak had been left unsealed? obviously the lt sealed it off for that reason.

It was silly, but again, the writers wanted Korvac to erase that reality,
so, that's the reasoning behind the LT not blinking him out of existence.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i'll go buy the abraxas arc and find the missing piece to the puzzle. i know for sure that there is one UN. or some kind of retcon. i'm going out.

Originally posted by fangirl101

the story affects eternity and kismet. as in universes.

you saying only galaxies were affected is way off base
since we see the universes bound and it says UNIVERSES.

You don't like it, write a letter and complain.

Originally posted by fangirl101

krona was beaten,
but the effect of the binding of the universes was from the items.
with no one to command a seperation, the bind was still in effect.

By the time Spectre came into the picture,
the Universes were free of the items,
and Reality was re-ordering itself:

As we can see, by the bottom panels, the items aren't even there anymore.

...........................................................................................................

By the next page, there are no items of any kind.

in fact, "Reality is Re-Ordering itself"

...........................................................................................................

Then in the NEXT page after that,
Spectre finishes the separation:

So much for your Spectre feat. stoned

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Had I known this from the beginning, I would've saved myself a lot of time.

I don't know what I was thinking taking your word for it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆

Yea, doesn't change the fact that Uatu said that in 1982. !!!!

(1982)

But let's completely ignore what Uatu said in [B]1990:

"Man's Universe (Multiverse)
has it's own Infinite number of variants known as Alternate Universes,
explored by the Watchers. (the Watchers explore the Multiverse)

(1990)

==================================

According to Marvel Comics: (21st century)

==================================

While we're at it,

let's also ignore what the essence of the Universe said in 2001:

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe,
a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

(2001)

But yea, I'm sure the 1982 account is more canon than the rest. dontgetit

Again, you must've missed the part when I told you,
Eternity is birthing entire UniverseS continuously. [/B]

Originally posted by Mr Master
Only Galaxies were affected:

You don't like it, write a letter and complain.

Not true.

By the time Spectre came into the picture,
the Universes were free of the items,
and Reality was re-ordering itself:

As we can see, by the bottom panels, the items aren't even there anymore.

...........................................................................................................

By the next page, there are no items of any kind.

in fact, "Reality is Re-Ordering itself"

...........................................................................................................

Then in the NEXT page after that,
Spectre finishes the separation:

So much for your Spectre feat. stoned

=======================================

Had I known this from the beginning, I would've saved myself a lot of time.

I don't know what I was thinking taking your word for it.

if superglue binds two pieces of paper together, and you remove the tube from which the glue comes from, the binding is still there. the effects of the glue are still there. If the items effect had worn off as you would like your fans to think, then the universes would have seperated on thier own. obviously, the power of the items was still in effect. if thanos kills half the universe with the ig, and then he loses the ig, do the effects of those deaths change? no, it has to be reversed. you saved yourself nothing. and you actually take krona's statement to mean only galaxies where affected. foolish thinking. he says already, i feel galaxies STARTING TO collapse within you. the entire universe is being affected and the galaxies collapsing were just the first step. i really really bore of someone who is so gung ho on making everyone see thier way that they misconstrue every freaking thing on panel to suit thier desires. it's REDICULOUS. I can just imagine that i'm not the only person who's said this.

Do you mind if I use that scan in my GEB respect thread?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Do you mind if I use that scan in my GEB respect thread?

Not at all 🙂

Originally posted by psycho gundam
was about to say the same think myself.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
What same thing ?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
read air-legands post.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
He's on ignore also, and I've read enough stupidity today by reading another guy who's on ignore's post.

So just tell me what you agree with, and I'll discuss it with you on why it's wrong.

Cat got your tongue ?

Or perhaps you're one of those posters who just comes into threads and sides against the poster he likes the least, without reading any of the arguments.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Cat got your tongue ?

Or perhaps you're one of those posters who just comes into threads and sides against the poster he likes the least, without reading any of the arguments.

I disagree

Originally posted by fangirl101
if superglue binds two pieces of paper together, and you remove the tube from which the glue comes from, the binding is still there. the effects of the glue are still there. If the items effect had worn off as you would like your fans to think, then the universes would have seperated on thier own. obviously, the power of the items was still in effect. if thanos kills half the universe with the ig, and then he loses the ig, do the effects of those deaths change? no, it has to be reversed. you saved yourself nothing. and you actually take krona's statement to mean only galaxies where affected. foolish thinking. he says already, i feel galaxies STARTING TO collapse within you. the entire universe is being affected and the galaxies collapsing were just the first step. i really really bore of someone who is so gung ho on making everyone see thier way that they misconstrue every freaking thing on panel to suit thier desires. it's REDICULOUS. I can just imagine that i'm not the only person who's said this.

👆 Now if we can just get him to stop with the foolishness of pretending TOAA is a real person when it was shown ON PANEL that's how the beings SAW GOD. 😂

Originally posted by fangirl101

funny you mention what uatu said in 1982. and then 1990.
i'll remember that you like to keep things linear when it suits you.

I never mentioned what Uatu said in 82' ... YOU did!

I as always, corrected you,
by showing you that the Multiverse continues to grows,
this is why in 1990 Uatu said it was infinite, and 2001 likewise.

Another lie. doh

You're such a b*tch of a poster,
that you'll focus on trying to demean the poster that PROVES you WRONG!!!
just to save face.

Originally posted by fangirl101

if superglue binds two pieces of paper together,
and you remove the tube from which the glue comes from,
the binding is still there. the effects of the glue are still there.
If the items effect had worn off as you would like your fans to think, then the universes would have seperated on thier own. obviously, the power of the items was still in effect.

Fact is, On Panel,
"Reality is re-ordering itself" ... BEFORE Spectre arrived!

You best stick to your lies,
instead of this meaningless/irrelevant real world scenarios unrelated to comics.

Originally posted by fangirl101

if thanos kills half the universe with the ig, and then he loses the ig, do the effects of those deaths change? no, it has to be reversed. you saved yourself nothing.

Nice try.

In this cross-over,
the instant Krona got owned by Flash and Hawkeye,
Reality was fixing itself ... BEFORE Spectre arrived!

"Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"

Originally posted by fangirl101

and you actually take krona's statement to mean only galaxies where affected. foolish thinking. he says already, i feel galaxies STARTING TO collapse within you. the entire universe is being affected and the galaxies collapsing were just the first step.

Krona said that when the two Universes where merged,
in fact, Krona said that towards the end of the last issue.

You don't like it, write a letter and complain.

Nice try with the straight up lie again.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i really really bore of someone who is so gung ho on making everyone see thier way that they misconstrue every freaking thing on panel to suit thier desires. it's REDICULOUS. I can just imagine that i'm not the only person who's said this.

Go Read a Comic book.

Originally posted by Mr Master Gibberish.I never mentioned what Uatu said in 82' ... YOU did!I as always, corrected you, by showing you that the Multiverse continues to grows,this is why in 1990 Uatu said it was infinite, and 2001 likewise.Another lie. dohYou're such a b*tch of a poster,that you'll focus on trying to demean the poster that PROVES you WRONG!!!just to save face.Â_Inconsequential real world logic, nice.Fact is, On Panel,"Reality is re-ordering itself" ... BEFORE Spectre arrived!You best stick to your lies, instead of this meaningless/irrelevant real world scenarios unrelated to comics.Â_Thanos and the IG arc, has nothing to do with this cross-over.Nice try.In this cross-over,the instant Krona got owned by Flash and Hawkeye,[B]Reality was fixing itself ... BEFORE Spectre arrived!"Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"Typical bull shitKrona said that when the two Universes where merged, in fact, Krona said that towards the end of the last issue.You don't like it, write a letter and complain.Nice try with the straight up lie again.Â_Off-topic meaningless gibberish.Go Read a Comic book. [/B]

Love the way you just overlooked all the ways your argument falls behind.

Originally posted by fangirl101

is this your standard method of "debating"? calling what people say that you don't like gibberish? insulting people? calling other's views on very subjective subject matter" lies" when it doesn't fit with your applied opinion? I notice too when something doesn't quite fit with you, or you can't refute it, you come off very arrogantly and just put down the statement as if it isn't worth your time.

Everyone and anyone is free to read my posts thoroughly.

I address posts accordingly, based on your quotes.

When you try and lie about comics, I come back with the truth.

When you get personal/off-topic with meaningless attacks on my persona,
I let you know what it is ... gibberish.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The arguments have been presented and you can ramble on until your blue in the face. The fact of the matter is, in JLA avengers, Kismet and Her COUNTERPART from marvel were bound together. her counter part is 616 eternity.

I challenge you to find the # 616 anywhere in that cross-over.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Galactus is the only being in marvel who knows the true beginning of time.

How can the term "gibberish" be left out when discussing comics with you?

Originally posted by fangirl101

The fact is, in the story, the un, was stated to be able to destroy the universe. even if you don't want to admit that it's the 616 which is your perogative to do so, the items' power aren't up for debate. So the spectre feat still stands.

BEFORE Spectre arrived:

Reality was fixing itself!

"Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"

yawn

Originally posted by fangirl101

everything else you want to throw in about roma,
and wanda and all that other stuff is bull.

Marvel Celestial Guardians can erase DC.

The Alien Entity, Beyonders, matrix Merlyn, Edifice Rex and others,
can all wipe out DC,

according to your logic that it.

Originally posted by fangirl101

it's just someone throwing a tantrum becuz they don't like the story.
Please, go ahead, have more fits. spit and e yell,
and load up the server bandwidth with regurgitated scans.
i dont' fall for it. if anyone else does,
i simply have the opinion that they are less intelligent than i am.
since I don't fall for that bs.

Like I said, I respond acccordingly.

Please yall,
read his postS,
and notice why I call certain parts of it ... GIBBERISH!!!

Let's try to be a bit more civil everybody.

Also, let's not make every little dig and barb a major issue.

I really don't feel like closing threads uhuh or banning people. biscuits

This is a general post to everybody.

Mr M, you should make another Marvel hierarchy. I've seen them on other forums and they're pretty much BS. With Thanos w/ Heart defeated the M-body of the LT, and shit like that.
Your previous have been locked, and not updated in a long time. Maybe you should consider reopening it, or create an entire new one from scratch. I would appreaciate it.

Originally posted by Badabing
Let's try to be a bit more civil everybody.

Also, let's not make every little dig and barb a major issue.

I really don't feel like closing threads uhuh or banning people. biscuits

This is a general post to everybody.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Love the way you just overlooked all the ways your argument falls behind.

Gibberish.

Everyone and anyone is free to read my posts thoroughly.

I address posts accordingly, based on your quotes.

When you try and lie about comics, I come back with the truth.

When you get personal/off-topic with meaningless attacks on my persona,
I let you know what it is ... gibberish.

Bull shit ... I challenge you to find where is this confirmed outside of that cross-over.

I challenge you to find the # 616 anywhere in that cross-over.

😆

How can the term "gibberish" be left out when discussing comics with you?

Sorry jack, the items were not holding the Universes together by then,
in fact, the two single universes were already REPAIRING themselves,

BEFORE Spectre arrived:

[B]Reality was fixing itself!

"Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"

yawn

If you want to make this arc canon,
then Wanda tore down DC and remade DC.

Marvel Celestial Guardians can erase DC.

The Alien Entity, Beyonders, matrix Merlyn, Edifice Rex and others,
can all wipe out DC,

according to your logic that it.

Gibberish.

Like I said, I respond acccordingly.

Please yall,
read his postS,
and notice why I call certain parts of it ... GIBBERISH!!! [/B]

more of the same. one has to wonder how many enemies you have. if you were the debator you think you are, people with thier own minds, and rational thought would respect you even in disagreement. right now it seems only those who like pretty pictures are your fans. you do nothing and I mean nothing but clog the airwaves with reguritated opinion. and that is fine, but when you think your opinion supercedes someone elses, when it's quite obvious, that we both have points, then you lesson your effectiveness against someone with any true intelligence. as I stated, any on looker with half a brain can see that it's the 616 eternity. i tire of you. and not becuz you have proven anything, i tire of you becuz you are arrogant, brash, insulting, and down right irritating.

Originally posted by fangirl101
more of the same. one has to wonder how many enemies you have. if you were the debator you think you are, people with thier own minds, and rational thought would respect you even in disagreement. right now it seems only those who like pretty pictures are your fans. you do nothing and I mean nothing but clog the airwaves with reguritated opinion. and that is fine, but when you think your opinion supercedes someone elses, when it's quite obvious, that we both have points, then you lesson your effectiveness against someone with any true intelligence. as I stated, any on looker with half a brain can see that it's the 616 eternity. i tire of you. and not becuz you have proven anything, i tire of you becuz you are arrogant, brash, insulting, and down right irritating.

he isnt acting like anyone has to believe him but he wants everyone to know how he feels on the subject and that anyone can make up their mind as they will.

Originally posted by fangirl101

more of the same.

I agree.

Originally posted by fangirl101

one has to wonder how many enemies you have.

Originally posted by fangirl101

if you were the debator you think you are,
people with thier own minds, and rational thought would respect you even in disagreement.
right now it seems only those who like pretty pictures are your fans.
you do nothing and I mean nothing but clog the airwaves with reguritated opinion.

Originally posted by fangirl101

and that is fine, but when you think your opinion supercedes someone elses, when it's quite obvious, that we both have points, then you lesson your effectiveness against someone with any true intelligence.

Originally posted by fangirl101

as I stated, any on looker with half a brain can see that it's the 616 eternity.

Originally posted by fangirl101

i tire of you. and not becuz you have proven anything, i tire of you becuz you are arrogant, brash, insulting, and down right irritating.