Who can beat the Spectre?

Started by starlock25 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
You mean claims supported with on panel proof?

I agree.

Funny,
I thought it was you who was banned for being an insufferable annoyance to ALL!

Gibberish.

On Panel supported facts >>> any and all unsupported opinions. 🙂

Only in your mind ... but on panel .... ermmno

Gibberish.

Gibberish....
Sorry i had to take the shot, it was to tempting 😉

Originally posted by starlock

Gibberish....

Sorry i had to take the shot, it was to tempting


In other words,
you have absolutely nothing to add to the debate,
nothing new to bring to light,
nothing relevant to comment on concerning the thread.

All you were capable of doing,
was entering the thread now,
just to attack my post without provocation or meaning,
but with .. well you said it ... "gibberish."

Cool. 🙂 ... (I won't call you on the trollness of that action)
because that will just spark what I think you're trying to start ... a futile war of words.

And ... war

I'm here to debate Comic Books,
when posts are relevant to comics,
they are dealt with the same relevant context concerning Comics.

When posts get personal, with unnecessary snide remarks,
and off-topic sarcasm geared to attack one's persona,
I reply accordingly. (usually that means calling it gibberish)

Originally posted by Mr Master
In other words,
you have absolutely nothing to add to the debate,
nothing new to bring to light,
nothing relevant to comment on concerning the thread.

All you were capable of doing,
was entering the thread now,
just to attack my post without provocation or meaning,
but with .. well you said it ... "gibberish."

Cool. 🙂 ... (I won't call you on the trollness of that action)
because that will just spark what I think you're trying to start ... a futile war of words.

And ... war

not every long ruling "leader" is worthy of leading. some are tyrants who rule with force and bullying a bunch of no brained dummies who are in awe of the brashness of thier leader. ask sodam. he was followed for years. why? becuz some people who backed him couldn't think for themselves. anyone who did think for themselves were attacked.

Originally posted by kevdude

Now if we can just get him to stop with the foolishness of pretending TOAA is a real person,
when it was shown ON PANEL that's how the beings SAW GOD. 😂


😆

So the FF saw "God" working on comic books that would be published in the real world?

Actually, Morrison/Carlin avatars
and FF #511 avatars ... are the true Gods of Marvel and DC!

.................................................................................

The Morrison avatar (from animal man) is not the Presence,
that Morrison avatar is exactly what Toaa/God from FF#511 represented:

Real world artists/writers.

The Presence is a drawing,
or idea on a piece of paper that was created by this type of Morrison avatar.

The Presence is an entity that's intergrated into the DC divine reality,
he has family, aspects of himself, and even a polar opposite.

Morrison did not identify with his creation as an equal, opposite or inferior existence,
but rather as what they really are,
just a drawing on a piece of paper
.

You must read the scan, or you'll end up in a dance of circles good friend.

.................................................................................

Just like Reed and the FF, Silver Surfer, Black Panther and even Galactus,
are just silly drawings on a piece of paper to the real OAA/God (writers/artists avatars)

.................................................................................

The Presence and THOTI are less than nothing to these true Gods of Marvel and DC.

The Presence and THOTI,
are the complete fictional representations of supreme beings,
withIN their respective realities. (DC and Marvel)

Morrison/Carlin and Kirbiesk/Lee type avatars are the creators of these drawings, ("supreme beings"😉
even though they themselves are being represented by a drawing as well.

.................................................................................

So bottom line:

The Presence = THOTI
(since both represent the Supreme Beings withIN their realities)

Morrison/Carlin/Kirbiesk/lee >>> Presence/HOTI
(since they literally represent the creators of everything that takes place on panel)
(including "supreme beings"😉 that also appear on panel relating themselves with other drawings.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆

So the FF saw "God" working on comic books that would be published in the real world?

Actually, Morrison/Carlin avatars
and FF #511 avatars ... are the true Gods of Marvel and DC!

.................................................................................

The Morrison avatar (from animal man) is not the Presence,
that Morrison avatar is exactly what Toaa/God from FF#511 represented:

Real world artists/writers.

The Presence is a drawing,
or idea on a piece of paper that was created by this type of Morrison avatar.

The Presence is an entity that's intergrated into the DC divine reality,
he has family, aspects of himself, and even a polar opposite.

Morrison did not identify with his creation as an equal, opposite or inferior existence,
[B]but rather as what they really are,
just a drawing on a piece of paper
.

You must read the scan, or you'll end up in a dance of circles good friend.

.................................................................................

Just like Reed and the FF, Silver Surfer, Black Panther and even Galactus,
are just silly drawings on a piece of paper to the real OAA/God (writers/artists avatars)

.................................................................................

The Presence and THOTI are less than nothing to these true Gods of Marvel and DC.

The Presence and THOTI,
are the complete fictional representations of supreme beings,
withIN their respective realities. (DC and Marvel)

Morrison/Carlin and Kirbiesk/Lee type avatars are the creators of these drawings, ("supreme beings"😉
even though they themselves are being represented by a drawing as well.

.................................................................................

So bottom line:

The Presence = THOTI
(since both represent the Supreme Beings withIN their realities)

Morrison/Carlin/Kirbiesk/lee >>> Presence/HOTI
(since they literally represent the creators of everything that takes place on panel)
(including "supreme beings"😉 that also appear on panel relating themselves with other drawings. [/B]

how do you come up with such stuff so fast? I know. copy and paste. the same thing, over and over and over and over again. You know what, your both correct. So it's no need in trying to ram your opinion as fact when you are both correct.

Originally posted by fangirl101

not every long ruling "leader" is worthy of leading. some are tyrants who rule with force and bullying a bunch of no brained dummies who are in awe of the brashness of thier leader. ask sodam. he was followed for years. why? becuz some people who backed him couldn't think for themselves. anyone who did think for themselves were attacked.


Gibberish.

You went from making unsupported claims out of the thin air concerning comics,
to meaningless off-topic drivel,
to now ... now ... now ...

actually I ... dontgetit

Originally posted by Mr Master Gibberish.You went from making unsupported claims out of the thin air concerning comics,to meaningless off-topic drivel,to now ... now ... now ...actually I ... dontgetit
I went from making unsupported claims? All I did was state what was On panel in the book. if that is what you call unsupported, then you truly are not worth my time. I simply gave my interpretation of what was on the panel in the book. You're on ignore. You obviously are a legend in your own mind. just becuz you dont' agree with what I interpret ON PANEL IS unsupported. It's on the damned panel.

Originally posted by fangirl101

how do you come up with such stuff so fast? I know. copy and paste.
the same thing, over and over and over and over again.


Even though Kev posted his opinion this morning?
Which NOW I'm responding to?

Dude, you stick your foot in your mouth like at every turn.

Don't you have any shame at all,
sure I know, you're in the privacy of your home, protected, unseen,
but jeesh, surely you must realize that your dignity swims in gutters.

Originally posted by fangirl101

You know what, your both correct.
So it's no need in trying to ram your opinion as fact when you are both correct.


I disagree.

How can we both be right,
when we're both stating completely different ideas?

Mine is based on evidence, (on panel)

Anyone is free to check it out, it's correct.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Even though Kev posted his opinion this morning?
Which NOW I'm responding to?

Dude, you stick your foot in your mouth like at every turn.

Don't you have any shame at all,
sure I know, you're in the privacy of your home, protected, unseen,
but jeesh, surely you must realize that your dignity swims in gutters.

I disagree.

How can we both be right,
when we're both stating completely different ideas?

Mine is based on evidence, (on panel)

Anyone is free to check it out, it's correct.

he's saying that god was on panel. which he was. your saying god is the writers. which they are. both correct. on panel representations of the writers. and I don't mean your response time to him. I mean the length of your message, all while responding to me as well. Guess you stuck your foot in your mouth. you do that alot. everytime you insult someone. such an ugly habit. you should break it.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I went from making unsupported claims?
All I did was state what was On panel in the book.
if that is what you call unsupported, then you truly are not worth my time.
I simply gave my interpretation of what was on the panel in the book.


All you did was straight up, make things up,
make claims out of the wind,
and get personal when you saw yourself being wrong, again, and again, and ... again!

Originally posted by fangirl101

You're on ignore. You obviously are a legend in your own mind.


Gibberish.

Originally posted by fangirl101

just becuz you dont' agree with what I interpret ON PANEL IS unsupported.
It's on the damned panel.


No it isn't.

The cross-over is null/void because Marvel and DC do not share the same Multiverse,

this ridiculous cross-over claims it does. 😂

Furthermore,

Spectre's feat is not what you've falsely claimed it was.

Spectre finished the separation AFTER the items were out of the way,
before that, the items were GONE, and Reality was "RE-ORDERING itself"

So ... srugyellowshoes

Originally posted by Mr Master
All you did was straight up, make things up,
make claims out of the wind,
and get personal when you saw yourself being wrong, again, and again, and ... again!

Gibberish.

No it isn't.

The cross-over is null/void because Marvel and DC do not share the same Multiverse,

this ridiculous cross-over claims it does. 😂

Furthermore,

Spectre's feat is not what you've falsely claimed it was.

Spectre finished the separation AFTER the items were out of the way,
before that, the items were GONE, and Reality was "RE-ORDERING itself"

So ... srugyellowshoes


reality had reordered itself in terms of the time continuum. Hence why there was no more dead heroes in the story. the binding of the universes was still evident as the statement says REALITY is reording itself. had it been seperating, it would have said, the REALITIES are reording themselves. as evident that the heroes knew it was TWO MULTIVERSES since scarlet witch pointed out that there was eternity and his justice league counter part. the series does not say they share the same multiverse. find that exact statement and not some round about concocted way that you do and i'll concede. until then, it's quite clear that there are two multiverses as both are shown bound together.

Originally posted by fangirl101

he's saying that god was on panel. which he was.
your saying god is the writers. which they are. both correct.
on panel representations of the writers.


I agree with what you're saying. 👆

But that's not what Kev said.

So my point still stands concerning him.

Originally posted by fangirl101

and I don't mean your response time to him.
I mean the length of your message, all while responding to me as well.


You have no idea what I'm doing over here.

So please refrain from being so presumptuous.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Guess you stuck your foot in your mouth. you do that alot.
everytime you insult someone. such an ugly habit. you should break it.


Gibberish.

Originally posted by fangirl101

reality had reordered itself in terms of the time continuum.
Hence why there was no more dead heroes in the story.
the binding of the universes was still evident as the statement says REALITY is reording itself. had it been seperating, it would have said, the REALITIES are reording themselves.


This is just a mixture of fallacies.

Bottom-line:

The items weren't there, and Reality was FIXING itself BEFORE Spectre arrived.

"Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"

It was said TWICE, I just noticed: (AGAIN!!!!)

"Reality's REBUILDING itself"

I know, I know,
that doesn't really say that,
it's an illusion,
actually I drew it, inked it, and lettered it myself. crazy

Originally posted by fangirl101

as evident that the heroes knew it was TWO MULTIVERSES since scarlet witch pointed out that there was eternity and his justice league counter part.


😆
Originally posted by fangirl101

the series does not say they share the same multiverse.
find that exact statement
and not some round about concocted way that you do and i'll concede.

...........................................................................................

Polemachus is a whole Alternate Universe withIN the Marvel Multiverse:

"Polemachus ... it is a World that has known much war"

Qward is a whole Parallel Universe withIN the DC Multiverse:

"Another Universe, occupying the same Space,
but a different vibratory plane of reality"

It is a World that has known war as well"

..................................................................................

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DC's 52 Universes

are also separated by a vibratory plane withIN the same Space?

52 identical Earths in 52 identical Cosmos,
the Earths will occupy the same Space,
each on a different vibrational plane
"
..................................................................................

But I thought Polemachus (Marvel) & Qward (DC) shared the same Space on a different vibratory plane?

dontgetit

This would suggest,
that Marvel & DC not ony share the same Omniverse,
but the same Multiverse too
. 🤨

Originally posted by fangirl101

until then,
it's quite clear that there are two multiverses as both are shown bound together.


Delusions can be blissful I hear.

Is it true? (you .. should REALLY know)

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is just a mixture of fallacies.

Bottom-line:

The items weren't there, and Reality was FIXING itself BEFORE Spectre arrived.

"[B]Reality is RE-ORDERING itself"

It was said TWICE, I just noticed: (AGAIN!!!!)

"Reality's REBUILDING itself"

I know, I know,
that doesn't really say that,
it's an illusion,
actually I drew it, inked it, and lettered it myself. crazy

😆

...........................................................................................

Polemachus is a whole Alternate Universe withIN the Marvel Multiverse:

"Polemachus ... it is a World that has known much war"

Qward is a whole Parallel Universe withIN the DC Multiverse:

"Another Universe, occupying the same Space,
but a different vibratory plane of reality"

It is a World that has known war as well"

..................................................................................

..................................................................................

DC's 52 Universes

are also separated by a vibratory plane withIN the same Space?

52 identical Earths in 52 identical Cosmos,
the Earths will occupy the same Space,
each on a different vibrational plane
"
..................................................................................

But I thought Polemachus (Marvel) & Qward (DC) shared the same Space on a different vibratory plane?

dontgetit

This would suggest,
that Marvel & DC not ony share the same Omniverse,
but the same Multiverse too
. 🤨

Delusions can be blissful I hear.

Is it true? (you .. should REALLY know) [/B]

you see, and we all see, that you did exactly what I knew you would. you came up with a cockimame theory and drew your conclusion. youdid NOT even address the fact that kismet and eternity are referred to as counter parts and thus are two seperate multiverses. no need to go thru all you went thru, it's painfully obvious that you just dont' like the series. and yes, reality was restructuring. but in no way does it say the realities are seperating. if you paid attention to the story, there was one fused reality that was in tact. as if it had always been one reality. then krona did something and mucked with the time stream. thus creating temporal anomolies. after krona is beaten, the anomolies return to normal but the MULTIVERSES remain fused until the spectre over rid the effect of the 12 items of power.

A interesting Debate I just have on observation about reality reordering itself. None knew what it meant as said by MM in this scan

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s1xn9.jpg

"Reality is reordering itself. we do not know what that will bring"

For those cosmic DC experts, what do you define as the definitive on-panel representation of the Presence. Also, did the Presence have any sort of limitations or appear capable of any oversights?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For those cosmic DC experts, what do you define as the definitive on-panel representation of the Presence. Also, did the Presence have any sort of limitations or appear capable of any oversights?

Thanks in advance.

I do not believe the presence has ever been seen. There has been the supreme beings mike carlin and grant morrison on panel tho. I guess that would count.

The thing with authors is that they aren't fictional. Hence can be seen as the most powerful fictional character in their series.

Here's a picture of the Presence btw.

what issue is that

"The Spectre 61, January, 1998."