California and Gay Marriage

Started by Darth Vicious15 pages

Originally posted by Devil King
So, you had the option of going to AND paying for college. What might be considered access to "more conventional" means of betterment? Family might not be the motivating factor, but a generalized "betterment". Often, hurting others IS a method for benefitting the one who is hurting others.

Yes, I do know what you would do in the booth. Again, you are buying into the propoganda that you are to be consulted when it comes to the rights of another human being. Read the Declaration of Independance. Rights are not yours to give or revoke. But, neither are they the domain of a god, as most people think is the claim of the declaration. Rights are ours, devoid of a creator or a subscription to one. If you paint a picture, what rights does it have other than those you give it? Not to sound cliche, but Tyler Durden was right when he said our parents were our models for god. To you it's a matter of giving and taking. But what do you do when no one asked for you to give them anything? What do you do when someone finally realizes for themselves that what they want they already have, and don't need anyone to give it to them?

In your own words, it's personal. If you wouldn't tell your gay friends they shouldn't be allowed to get married, then it's not your place to walk into that booth and pass judgement on them. Don't cast a vote you're not willing to defend to others. When you decide to get married, make sure you ask the guy sitting next to you on the subway if he's okay with it.

So u have no answer for how hurting somebody really benefits anybody? In what way, shape of form does it benefit them?

You were the one that brought up the booth. All I meant is that something of this magnitude should be left out for the people to decide but I guess its better for the Rosies and the Ellens of the world to have a person decide whats right( be it the judge or whoever) than half the country saying they will not stand for that kinda marriage.

The subway comment really makes no sense because before I got married I asked my friends(gay, straight) if it was the right choice. I didnt mind their input. Some like the girl, some didnt. It was a matter of opinion.

The US Constitution gives me the right to say, I dont like gay marriage. It gives me the right to say, Im against it.

And thats that. No matter what u say or how u say it, my opinion wont change.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
...And thats that. No matter what u say or how u say it, my opinion wont change.

Why?

Why do gays need to marry? Can't they "live in sin"? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Mr. Love
Why do gays need to marry? Can't they "live in sin"? 😖hifty:

They just want the same privileges that marred people have.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They just want the same privileges that marred people have.

What are those?

Originally posted by Mr. Love
What are those?

Tax Deductions
Property Rights
Rigths to act on behalf of the spouse. Eg, cases of injury or death.

Originally posted by Mr. Love
What are those?

Joint tax returns; The ability to be with their partner if that partner was in the hospital; Joint ownership; Inheritance...

Originally posted by Robtard
Tax Deductions
Property Rights
Rigths to act on behalf of the spouse. Eg, cases of injury or death.

Seems fair then they should recieve these. Can't gays marry in the U.S. then?

Originally posted by Darth Vicious

The US Constitution gives me the right to say, I dont like gay marriage. It gives me the right to say, Im against it.

It's not an issue of you just saying it, say whatever you like, you're welcome to your opinion. But as a voter, you should have a sensible/valid reason to vote against (or support of) denying others equal rights.

So, why are you personally against it as to where you'd deny others equal rights?

Originally posted by Mr. Love
Seems fair then they should recieve these. Can't gays marry in the U.S. then?

Only in Massachusetts so far, California might be next. This was said in the thread start, sock.

Originally posted by Robtard
Only in Massachusetts so far, California might be next. This was said in the thread start, sock.

? What?

So how come so little love for the gays..... Back at you "sock". What's a sock by the way?

Originally posted by Mr. Love
? What?

So how come so little love for the gays..... Back at you "sock". What's a sock by the way?

1. Christianity.
2. A sock is a person with more then one account, or a person who opens a new account when their old account is banned.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
1. Christianity.
2. A sock is a person with more then one account, or a person who opens a new account when their old account is banned.

1) Christians = Gays? wtf
2) thanks, why would he call me a sock?

Originally posted by Mr. Love
1) Christians = Gays? wtf
2) thanks, why would he call me a sock?

1) No, I was saying that Christianity does not love gays.

2) He thinks you are a sock.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
1) No, I was saying that Christianity does not love gays.

2) He thinks you are a sock.

1) 👆

2) Y 😕

Originally posted by Mr. Love
1) 👆

2) Y 😕

Your name, I guess.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your name, I guess.

But he doesn't know my name. 😕

Originally posted by Mr. Love
But he doesn't know my name. 😕

Mr. Love... are you really the dense?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mr. Love... are you really the dense?

the what?

Originally posted by Mr. Love
the what?

Thank you for that honest answer. 😉