Originally posted by Placidity
Wouldn't that actually mean that it allows you to be superagile than? Not an "illusion"?
You can't really fake agility, just as you can fake speed. Speed is a factor of Agility FYI.
still waiting for an evidences of spiderman being faster then wolverine and sttating one should look in the respect thread does not count as providing evidences.
ive seen teh respect thread and I own most of his comics and I have yet to see him do a speed feat Logan can not match.
Wolverine can break mach 5 ya know. In the Pizza Hut special Marvel Comics promotion comic back in 1994, Wolverine is shown in Japan on page 5 and back in Ny on page 7, but is never shown boarding a jet, so he MUST have cleared that distance on foot.
Also Wolverine CAN catch bullets with his teeth, nay, his eyelids. He just doesnt because its quicker to run through them and cut the guy with the gun! Obviously his healing factor doesnt register the pain of being shot, and he doesnt mind replacing costumes.
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Wolverine's good. Not that good. And he certainly has not studied Spidey's fighting style for years so well that he's able to read him like an open book. His adamantium skeleton gives him a fair advantage, but Spidey's taken apart tougher. And without the vast disadvantage of complete knowledge of fighting style, Spidey can hang on and win.
Spiderman 6/10.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Wolverine can break mach 5 ya know. In the Pizza Hut special Marvel Comics promotion comic back in 1994, Wolverine is shown in Japan on page 5 and back in Ny on page 7, but is never shown boarding a jet, so he MUST have cleared that distance on foot.
Also Wolverine CAN catch bullets with his teeth, nay, his eyelids. He just doesnt because its quicker to run through them and cut the guy with the gun! Obviously his healing factor doesnt register the pain of being shot, and he doesnt mind replacing costumes.
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your an idiot. go away or post something usefull you tool.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wolverine's good. Not that good. And he certainly has not studied Spidey's fighting style for years so well that he's able to read him like an open book. His adamantium skeleton gives him a fair advantage, but Spidey's taken apart tougher. And without the vast disadvantage of complete knowledge of fighting style, Spidey can hang on and win.Spiderman 6/10.
what are you even talking about.
why would Logan need to study a far less skileld opponet in order to beat him?
Logan taken peiople far tougher then spiderman as well..........
It not very hard to read spiderman like a book..........punisher did it in one of there first fights. Spiderman not very good at hiding his movements.
spiderman has little knolwedge of Logan fighting skills as well...........so tell me how Logan have little knwoledge of spidermans fighting style means he loses?
your arguement simply flawed and makes really no senses.
"Acutually" Im not a idiot.
"Aucatualy" I did post something useful.
"Acacatuayl" Im not a tool.
Anyway, yeah Wolverine wins this 10/10. I have a 1987 Marvel sticker book that shows Wolverine destroying a Sentinel with his barefist, no claws or anything. Can Spidey do that?
Not to mention Wolverine has speed blitzed Hand Ninjas, who of course are like twice as fast as Spider-man.
Speaking of Hand Ninjas, did you know Wolverine has killed a thousand, no make that thirty thousand of them so far? He said it, ON PANEL. How a super secret exclusive ninja organization can keep their membership numbers up with Wolverine going genocide on them weekly is beyond me.
Oh yeah, that Wolverine that WWH beat up recently? Totally a Skrull.
Wolverine Supporters? Dont you mean "Fanboys?". It doesnt get boring to blindly back a single character in every debate? I rarely see you post outside of Wolverine fights. Are you even capable of thinking unbiasedly in a Logan fight?
ANYWAY, Wolverine still wins this. He almost killed Thanos once ya know.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Wolverine Supporters? Dont you mean "Fanboys?".
Originally posted by redhotrash
It doesnt get boring to blindly back a single character in every debate?
Originally posted by redhotrash
I rarely see you post outside of Wolverine fights. Are you even capable of thinking unbiasedly in a Logan fight?
How am I being bias? To think a more skilled fighter, who can pretty much take what ever his opponent throws out him, makes me bias?
Originally posted by redhotrash
ANYWAY, Wolverine still wins this. He almost killed Thanos once ya know.
Your sarcasm is not amusing nor your attempts to belittle me.
He stabbed thanos he never almost killed him.
Originally posted by BattlehammerLogan doesn't necessarily need to study anybody in order to have a chance of winning. Having knowledge of your opponent is not a necessary component in winning. It simply makes things that much easier. Punisher has, on-panel, verified that he studies anybody he thinks would be an opponent. Indeed, Punisher hunted Spiderman in his first appearance and so it makes sense that he would have studied him and be able to take advantage of this in subsequent fights. However, it's nothing compared to Cap's knowledge of Spiderman. Don't compare Castle's observations from hunting Spiderman to Captain America's years and years of studying Spiderman.
what are you even talking about.why would Logan need to study a far less skileld opponet in order to beat him?
Logan taken peiople far tougher then spiderman as well..........
It not very hard to read spiderman like a book..........punisher did it in one of there first fights. Spiderman not very good at hiding his movements.
spiderman has little knolwedge of Logan fighting skills as well...........so tell me how Logan have little knwoledge of spidermans fighting style means he loses?
your arguement simply flawed and makes really no senses.
Spiderman's spider-sense, superior strength, superior agility/reflex advantage and unorthodox fighting style are what cause Logan to lose this H2H fight, despite Logan's advantage in soaking up damage and superior martial arts skills. Cap's superior martial arts skills mean more because he has Spidey's fighting style down so well, he can position Parker where he wants him and counter him easily. This negates his spider-senses and agility/reflex advantage and wipes out his unorthodox fighting style from being factors.
Logan does not have this years-long in-depth knowledge and has a much less chance of nullifying his spider-senses, agilty/reflex advantages, nor his unorthodox fighting style. This is why H2H, no claws, no webs, Wolverine loses in a very close fight. You can feel free to compare Logan's physicality and skills with Cap's. But we both know that Cap's main advantage against Spidey is his years long in-depth knowledge of Spiderman's fighting abilities and powers. Logan is not interchangeable with Rogers despite their comparable stats and skills. Your questions are misdirected and you missed the point completely.
Spiderman 6/10.
Originally posted by redhotrash
No but he stabbed him WITH HIS CLAWS! They are adamantium and cut anything.
And also, Im glad you are willing to lend your expertise to TMNT, Thundercats, and Companions of the hall posts. Out dated saturday morning cartoon/D&D characters FTW! Battle Toads vs Samurai Pizza Cats! lol
..........yea and does not mean they kill him.
I was refferring the comics.............and ninja turtle comic are still ongoing...............
what wrong with ninja turtle comics? Or thunder cat comics? or forgotten realms books?
the only one of thoses which do not currently still run are the thundercats.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Logan doesn't necessarily need to study anybody in order to have a chance of winning. Having knowledge of your opponent is not a necessary component in winning. It simply makes things that much easier. Punisher has, on-panel, verified that he studies anybody he thinks would be an opponent. Indeed, Punisher hunted Spiderman in his first appearance and so it makes sense that he would have studied him and be able to take advantage of this in subsequent fights. However, it's nothing compared to Cap's knowledge of Spiderman. Don't compare Castle's observations from hunting Spiderman to Captain America's years and years of studying Spiderman.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Spiderman's spider-sense, superior strength, superior agility/reflex advantage and unorthodox fighting style are what cause Logan to lose this H2H fight, despite Logan's advantage in soaking up damage and superior martial arts skills.
Superior strength which is completely useless vs Logan HF.
Unorthodox fighting style? You mean spiderman relying completely on his powers to fight. His fighting style is rubbish. It very easy to fallow and extremely easy to take advantage of which has been proven time and again by skilled h2h fighters which Logan is.
Superior agility true, but he also has inferior stamina and can not fight nearly as long as Logan can with out tirering which is quite a big deal in this fight.
Reflexes? I like you to prove this.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap's superior martial arts skills mean more because he has Spidey's fighting style down so well, he can position Parker where he wants him and counter him easily. This negates his spider-senses and agility/reflex advantage and wipes out his unorthodox fighting style from being factors.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Logan does not have this years-long in-depth knowledge and has a much less chance of nullifying his spider-senses, agilty/reflex advantages, nor his unorthodox fighting style.
Logan has foughten on to teams with spiderman.
Spidersenses is at best helps to equalizes spidermans lack of skill.
Agility nice and all, but he still pretty much screwed when the fight drags on.
Unorthodox fighting style? :LOL this is priceless statement. His style of fight has never onces proven good against skilled fighters. His style very predictable. He very easy to take advantage of. It not all that great it rather sucks actually. Logan far more unpredictable and far harder to read.
Prove spiderman has superior reflexes.
Logan can literally take all spiderman can dish out, which spiderman can not hope to do the same.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is why H2H, no claws, no webs, Wolverine loses in a very close fight. You can feel free to compare Logan's physicality and skills with Cap's.
Nor has your reasons proven Logan loses, actually some of your statements prove the opposite.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
But we both know that Cap's main advantage against Spidey is his years long in-depth knowledge of Spiderman's fighting abilities and powers.
Love how you pretend like Logan has no knowledge of spiderman or his powers………..when in fact he has lots of experiences and has been spidermans teammate more then onces and is currently his teammate.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Logan is not interchangeable with Rogers despite their comparable stats and skills. Your questions are misdirected and you missed the point completely.Spiderman 6/10.
No you clearly missed the point and your capt love it just retarded.
Spidermans not winning this one.