Originally posted by red sabre
"charged it with too much energy", thats exactly what i was talking about, in this scan we dont see him making it more dangerous the longer he holds it, this feat reffers to the statement i made that gambit can choose to charge the object with minimal charge or his maximum charge it depends on him, he wasnt focused and charged it more than he wanted, however my claim is after gambit charge the object normally like he does when he is buisness and charging it with full kinetic charge, can he keep charging it further and increasing its charge based on the time he holds that object? that wasnt answered yet.
The cards have a limit to how much kinetic energy he can hold regardless of how long he holds it. he chooses cards b/c he is able to charge them quickly.
If he concentrates he can regulate the amount of energy and simply make it glow, or make it a small explosion or turn them into time bombs. the cards do get eroded after time even if he is using them as a flashlight where he has to throw them away b4 they burn up or explode in a small pop.
It would take Gambit longer to charge an item depending on its size or material of the object since he has to feed the energy going into it.
what is your point?
Originally posted by FlyingAces
I think at this point you`re creating your arguments based on misinterpretation on what everyone`s saying. I don`t see anyone arguing for this. More than likely, if I were to hypothesize, I think you`re assuming that Gambit charges his weapons at max power all the time (which would be incorrect). Therefore the bombs he makes is it`s full potential and it can`t go any further.
as i said gambit can charge things with some degree and with his max, however it works like cyclops blasts, if cyclops shoots a blast its a blast it doesnt mean you took a weaker or a holding back blast from cyclops, you took him blast, same thing with gambit, he charged the chest scale fully as he could we see the entire chest is charged we see the explosion causing severe damage to trees and everything around, we see cap hurt and bleeding, and people come and say gambit didnt use a powerful charge he could have used a stronger one? in that case i asked for people to prove that bullshit because you cant go out with such stupid statements.
Originally posted by red sabre
as i said gambit can charge things with some degree and with his max, however it works like cyclops blasts, if cyclops shoots a blast its a blast it doesnt mean you took a weaker or a holding back blast from cyclops, you took him blast, same thing with gambit, he charged the chest scale fully as he could we see the entire chest is charged we see the explosion causing severe damage to trees and everything around, we see cap hurt and bleeding, and people come and say gambit didnt use a powerful charge he could have used a stronger one? in that case i asked for people to prove that bullshit because you cant go out with such stupid statements.
so a human took the same level of blast that Hulk has taken? 🙄
maybe if you use real world physics of how his powers should work but that is not what writers intend when they write guys like cyclops hitting a human in the head with an optic beam.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
The cards have a limit to how much kinetic energy he can hold regardless of how long he holds it. he chooses cards b/c he is able to charge them quickly.If he concentrates he can regulate the amount of energy and simply make it glow, or make it a small explosion or turn them into time bombs. the cards do get eroded after time even if he is using them as a flashlight where he has to throw them away b4 they burn up or explode in a small pop.
It would take Gambit longer to charge an item depending on its size or material of the object since he has to feed the energy going into it.
what is your point?
he can play with cards because he choose if to charge it with minimum energy or charge it fully as possible, however if gambit charge something to its fullest he cannot charge it any further with time like people here claim, when he charged captain america chest scale we clearly saw he charged it all and it all was charged and exploded, if people feel it wasnt strong enough and he could have charged it with more powerful charges based on time then proofs need to be delivered, my point was that as we see he charged the entire chest scale and there is no indication that he could charge it further causing it to be more damaging.
Originally posted by red sabreridiculous reasoning. b/c we just stated that depending on the material it does take longer to charge. he has stated it multiple times in his comic career. the fact that you think the chain mail is equal to a card and would be charged just as quickly let alone Gambit would charge it to full potential is absurd.
he can play with cards because he choose if to charge it with minimum energy or charge it fully as possible, however if gambit charge something to its fullest he cannot charge it any further with time like people here claim, when he charged captain america chest scale we clearly saw he charged it all and it all was charged and exploded, if people feel it wasnt strong enough and he could have charged it with more powerful charges based on time then proofs need to be delivered, my point was that as we see he charged the entire chest scale and there is no indication that he could charge it further causing it to be more damaging.
learn a new word. say it with me, PIS
Gambit wouldnt intentionally kill a fellow hero.
you think Punisher would?
Originally posted by Nietzschean
so a human took the same level of blast that Hulk has taken? 🙄maybe if you use real world physics of how his powers should work but that is not what writers intend when they write guys like cyclops hitting a human in the head with an optic beam.
with hulk cyclops went all out, when he shoots his visor shots he plays with that, i was reffering to his full optic blast as his max.
writers intended? judging by what? if thats the writers intention then show me the feats, no feats? then sorry
cyclops control his blasts from minimal to hardest his optic blasts control is far beyond gambits kinetic control, dont change the subject and adress my points.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
ridiculous reasoning. b/c we just stated that depending on the material it does take longer to charge. he has stated it multiple times in his comic career. the fact that you think the chain mail is equal to a card and would be charged just as quickly let alone Gambit would charge it to full potential is absurd.learn a new word. say it with me, PIS
Gambit wouldnt intentionally kill a fellow hero.
you think Punisher would?
longer to charge, however with the chest scale he already charged it fully as we saw, so what makes you say gambit could charge it even further then?
so you are calling 90% of caps career PIS?
here learn a new word with me, ONE SHOT Lol
the writer was probably trying to make a statement and put aside the character itself, facts are gambit did what he did and his actions are speaking for themselves.
Originally posted by red sabre
as i said gambit can charge things with some degree and with his max, however it works like cyclops blasts, if cyclops shoots a blast its a blast it doesnt mean you took a weaker or a holding back blast from cyclops, you took him blast, same thing with gambit, he charged the chest scale fully as he could we see the entire chest is charged we see the explosion causing severe damage to trees and everything around, we see cap hurt and bleeding, and people come and say gambit didnt use a powerful charge he could have used a stronger one? in that case i asked for people to prove that bullshit because you cant go out with such stupid statements.
I think the issue is you`re simply assuming Gambit charged Cap`s costume to it`s max potential (something that usually makes HUGE explosions at the size he`s charging) with little to back it up. I really should find Broovert and see what he says about this.
Originally posted by red sabreSo your argument is b/c the chain mail was glowing it means Gambit charged it to its full potential? 😬
with hulk cyclops went all out, when he shoots his visor shots he plays with that, i was reffering to his full optic blast as his max.writers intended? judging by what? if thats the writers intention then show me the feats, no feats? then sorry
cyclops control his blasts from minimal to hardest his optic blasts control is far beyond gambits kinetic control, dont change the subject and adress my points.
so by this reasoning if the entire card is glowing he also charged it to its full potential. you need to find yourself a new forum. go try comicvine.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
So your argument is b/c the chain mail was glowing it means Gambit charged it to its full potential? 😬so by this reasoning if the entire card is glowing he also charged it to its full potential. you need to find yourself a new forum. go try comicvine.
you said it takes more time to fully charge some objects, then i adressed the fact it was fully charged.
do you have any evidence gambit did not charge it fully? as you said yourself he charge his cards with different amount of energies and therefor he choose if to charge it slightly or to its max, however in order to charge something as this chest scale size he needed to charge it with full kinetic energy and then wait until the energy spread thruought the entire object, he couldnt do that with minimum charge based on size, other than that there is the fact he used both hands why would he use both hands? after that there is the thing the explosion itself took out trees, is that a minimum gambit charge? blowing up trees and everything around? the feats are telling us gambit did use a full charge that covered the entire chest area, you want to argue gambit use a slight charge? prove it then but childish talks wont change anything.
maybe it is you who should go to comicvine , perhaps there people will take your bullshit and wont question them.
Originally posted by FlyingAces
I think the issue is you`re simply assuming Gambit charged Cap`s costume to it`s max potential (something that usually makes HUGE explosions at the size he`s charging) with little to back it up. I really should find Broovert and see what he says about this.
can you prove he charged it slightly? if he was charging it slightly it wouldnt cover the entire area and he wouldnt use 2 hands, the fact he used enough kinetic energy to cover all that area already tells us it wasnt minimum charge , he put into that more charge than the max he can put into a card.
Originally posted by red sabrefully charge as in Gambit transferring the kinetic energy to its full potential that the object can contain. the only one I see BS his way through this forum is you. you can stop quoting me b/c I wont be answering your retarded post.
you said it takes more time to fully charge some objects, then i adressed the fact it was fully charged.do you have any evidence gambit did not charge it fully? as you said yourself he charge his cards with different amount of energies and therefor he choose if to charge it slightly or to its max, however in order to charge something as this chest scale size he needed to charge it with full kinetic energy and then wait until the energy spread thruought the entire object, he couldnt do that with minimum charge based on size, other than that there is the fact he used both hands why would he use both hands? after that there is the thing the explosion itself took out trees, is that a minimum gambit charge? blowing up trees and everything around? the feats are telling us gambit did use a full charge that covered the entire chest area, you want to argue gambit use a slight charge? prove it then but childish talks wont change anything.
maybe it is you who should go to comicvine , perhaps there people will take your bullshit and wont question them.
hell, no one here has taken the position you have taken not even the Captain America fans. that should tell you something.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
fully charge as in Gambit transferring the kinetic energy to its full potential that the object can contain. the only one I see BS his way through this forum is you. you can stop quoting me b/c I wont be answering your retarded post.hell, no one here has taken the position you have taken not even the Captain America fans. that should tell you something.
thats my point, gambit charged that chest scale to its fullest potential, he could not charge it any further and make the blast more powerful than it already was, that was my point after gambit charge some object to its fullest he cannot keep charging it with more and more energy.
keep your language boy i asked for some proof about the way gambit powers work, no need to get all touchy on me.
i am not looking at other people i am looking at myself, even if my points seem stupid to others it doesnt matter, at the end of the day i came here to learn more about comics and characters and if there is something i want to find out or figure out i will do it and i dont care if i look cool while doing it or not, because to tell you the truth my purpose is to find out if cap took the max gambit had to offer, how do i find out? i challenge other people to provide the opposite and see where its going.