Sometimes I like to re-read Cap vs. Gambit as this plays on my laptop:
biscuits
In all seriousness though, Cap isn't a "normal" human and he's not even a "peak" human, so him doing absurd shit - which he has since, well, his inception - is par for the course.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Sometimes I like to re-read Cap vs. Gambit as this plays on my laptop:biscuits
In all seriousness though, Cap isn't a "normal" human and he's not even a "peak" human, so him doing absurd shit - which he has since, well, his inception - is par for the course.
He's not normal, but he's also not Spidey in the sense that he's not so far above elite peaks that they can't compete with him. And some of the feats his supporters are crediting him for would be clear cut PIS for Spiderman (Who any sane person would admit is superior to Cap in physical stats).
Originally posted by cdtm
He's not normal, but he's also not Spidey in the sense that he's not so far above elite peaks that they can't compete with him. And some of the feats his supporters are crediting him for would be clear cut PIS for Spiderman (Who any sane person would admit is superior to Cap in physical stats).
Just cause Spidey cant do it doesnt mean Cap cant. 😈
Parker is just a wus is all.. 😮💨
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A nuclear furnace:
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http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303809jx2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303810oh7.jpg**** Gambit.
That's stupid. 🙁
👆 to Rage and Cosmic.
And the thing is, people, to this day, still try and spin that Cap is peak human and as such, equal to Batman physically or in the same range as Daredevil. I used to think that, too.
Then I read Captain America comics (while also reading Batman and DD comics).
Cap's superhuman. His low end and normal feats are about as good as some of the best people like Bruce and Matt have to offer. His high end feats are insane. And it's been that way for years with it becoming more pronounced within the past decade.
Part of the misconception is on Marvel's shoulder due to their handbooks and bios repeatedly stating Cap's "peak human", when in reality, he's above that. Brubaker himself, the guy responsible for the majority of Cap's badassery for the last several years and then some, has bluntly had it stated and shown that Cap's beyond anything any human could do or be under their own power.
yep, as i said already captain america is a clear super human, people can cry and moan all they want about a bio stating he is peak human, most of the bio's also state sabretooth has the strength of an averege man his size that train regulary, Cap by feats is a clear superhuman and by clear majority of his feats can easily take blasts and explosives that can kill humans streets or no streets, while reading Cap comics thruought the years i realised that he can take insane things because thats just his character, his entire character is about overcoming things most wouldnt be able due to his courage, will power, and fighting spirit ( and of course super human stats to some degree), so him taking things even peak humans shouldnt be able to is nothing new since he is beyond human, he got plenty of those and now he got taking gambit charge as part of his collection, i will take revamping his respect thread as a project right now i am going to buy a new scanner just for that and scan all his feats with extended explanation to each and each feat so i will be busy with that.
Originally posted by red sabre
yep, as i said already captain america is a clear super human,.
Yeah, no. No one's saying he's "only" peak human.
They're saying he has his limits. And honestly, while I love Cap as much as the next guy, one of those scans Rage posted is, in my opinion, an example of PIS. (The reactor one. Zola, I know nothing about.)
But since the point was how awesome Cap was, I didn't see much point in nitpicking the scans and went with it. Because Cap IS awesome.
Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, no. No one's saying he's "only" peak human.They're saying he has his limits. And honestly, while I love Cap as much as the next guy, one of those scans Rage posted is, in my opinion, an example of PIS. (The reactor one. Zola, I know nothing about.)
But since the point was how awesome Cap was, I didn't see much point in nitpicking the scans and went with it. Because Cap IS awesome.
of course cap has PIS moments no doubt, however his overall appearance clearly puts him in the super human category, the problem is most people are getting confuced between his feats and the handbooks that claim he is peak human, if people will just let go of that and look at his feats overall they will find out he is much closer to spider man levels than to the street levelers.
Breaking off the arms of 8-10 foot tall robots.
Making craters in the ground when you jump from tall heights.
Ripping a multi-ton statue out of the ground while you are tied to it.
Punching Iron Man so hard that he goes flying and makes a crater in the ground when he lands.
These are the things you'd be able to see Spiderman do on a normal day. Not a peak human.
Cap is closer to Parker than he is to Daredevil. Definitely. And Daredevil is not faster by feats. Not in the least.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
What? This is getting out of hand. Cap is physically above DD in most respects (though definitely slower), especially in strength and durability, but he's a whole lot closer than peter.
daredevil is not faster than cap by any means, cap actually has better speed feats than daredevil, perhaps you meant daredevil more agile than cap but hell not faster than him.
