Captain America vs. Gambit

Originally posted by Nietzschean
How can people say Cap should be able to shrug off such an explosion when Wolverine and Sabretooth have needed their HF's to survive the Card impact explosions? 😕

also:

why wouldnt wolverine and sabretooth use healing factor after explosion? their overall skin and flesh tissues are just the same, cap was injured after the explosion as well he was bleeding but he kept fighting and owned gambit, besides its not like wolverine or sabretooth wouldnt be able to continue fighting if it wasnt for the healing factor, his explosions caused some minor tissue damage which was healed outomatically thats it.

Originally posted by red sabre
why wouldnt wolverine and sabretooth use healing factor after explosion? their overall skin and flesh tissues are just the same, cap was injured after the explosion as well he was bleeding but he kept fighting and owned gambit, besides its not like wolverine or sabretooth wouldnt be able to continue fighting if it wasnt for the healing factor, his explosions caused some minor tissue damage which was healed outomatically thats it.

the only time Gambits cards shouldnt kill a human or someone like Cap is if he is limiting the explosive charge on the card. something he does to prevent from killing from time to time. dont confuse it with Cap's own durability level. 😬

Originally posted by Nietzschean
ahaha.. u realize Sinister is far more durable than Cap, right?
Sinister is bullet proof with superhuman strength and durability.

the only time Gambits cards shouldnt kill a human or someone like Cap is if he is limiting the explosive charge on the card. something he does to prevent from killing from time to time. dont confuse it with Cap's own durability level. 😬

as i remember sinister is vulnerable specially to energy attacks thats why cyclops was so dangerous to him and was smocking him easily with his optic blasts,also as i remember wolverine and the other x men easily were able to hurt him, its his healing factor that does the trick, what does his strength got to do with anything?

as i pointed out gambit explosive cards never were a real deal, he shoved a card down sabretooth throat and it didnt do any real damage, the cards are minor explosive nothing serious actually, of course it all depends on how many cards gambit will use, but overall as i pointed out we got an on panel feat and solid proof that captain america can and did take a charge from gambit, he was injured and bleeding but he took it like a man and one shotted gambit, i dont see any problem with that if we include the entire career of captain america surviving punishement from class 100 bricks, iron man energy blasts, different types of explosions, falling from a building on solid cocnrete and get right back up atc atc.

Sinister was only vulnerable to Cyclop's optic blast and even then it wasnt a big deal for him

i actually remember sinister having an issue with energy blast i will look up his showings during the classic x men era.

the scan you posted i can read it therefor i dont know the full context behind this or what the hell is going on.

anyway sinister aside as i pointed out already Cap took a charge from gambit on panel, he was injured and bleeding however he kept fighting and one shotted gambit, there is nothing wrong with that if we look at his career at surviving insane punishments, it is clear that Cap has super human durability and an insane damage soak, combine that with his unmatched will power and fighting spirit and what you get is the the things you see but for some reason call them PIS.

I think the eventual and ultimate explanation is Gambit just underestimated the amout of charge that is needed to knock Cap out.

In other words, it's less to do with Cap's durability and more with Gambit's f-up.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Cap is top tier in MvC2. Gambit? Not so much.

LoL U crazy.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
LoL U crazy.

All I see is blah blah blah Cap wins. blah BLAH.

Gambit wins. Easy. Read comics......Remember that time when Cable took down the entire Avengers recently?

Well Gambit not long ago made Cable crap his pants whilst Remy blew his island up like a champ.

Originally posted by the ninjak
All I see is blah blah blah Cap wins. blah BLAH.

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and repeated mention of 'butthurt'. strange fixation to be honest.

Originally posted by avatarroku92
and repeated mention of 'butthurt'. strange fixation to be honest.

Are you trying to read my mind? Because further ventures inward will result me eating your freakin soul!

Originally posted by the ninjak
All I see is blah blah blah Cap wins. blah BLAH.

Gambit wins. Easy. Read comics......Remember that time when Cable took down the entire Avengers recently?

Well Gambit not long ago made Cable crap his pants whilst Remy blew his island up like a champ.

strange because all i see here is you crying and refuse to except the feat as it is, "whaaa gambit will win" "whaaa its not fair cap shouldnt be able to own gambit like that whaaaa" , now you are trying to excuse it by saying gambit did something to cable? same cable that admited Captain america is stronger and faster than him 😆

are you reffering to the enhanced horseman gambit? i didnt see that feat but if you think gambit can blow up an island without any serious amp you got a fanboy syndrom.

look at your argument and look at my, i bring feats facts and explain what happened and why its valid, all you do is act like a child and repeat "gambit wins easily" thats already dumb and nobody is going to take you seriously for that.

and for the people who say gambit could have killed cap if he charged him some more, what do you think cap would do if gambit was trying to charge him further? just stand there and take it? notice how gambit charge him quickly and kick him away because if gambit would be trying to do this any longer cap would simply one shot him straight into his jaw, gambit potentially can charge cap further and kill him however he wont ever get the chance to do it, and as we saw when cap is serious buisness gambit isnt going to get a chance to hurt him in any way as long as cap got his shield with him.

Originally posted by red sabre

gambit is overrated, gambit taking out gladiator is pure PIS dont even tell me you take moments like those seriously, as i stated already we got on panel proof that Cap can and did take gambit shots and basically 1 shotted him and i dont really care if people dont like it, cap is stronger faster more durable got by far the better stamina better skills he basically got everything over gambit, thinking gambit should win this just because he can charge things is stupid.

To be fair Gambit used the whole deck and I think he deliberately aimed at his solar plexus.

Originally posted by Estacado
Under jobbing he means stupid writing since that explosion should have ko'd/killed Cap.
Each card explodes with a force of a hand granade...iirc .The size of the suit which got charged was at least 20 times bigger then a card don't tell me that Cap could take the equvalient of atlest 20 hand grande explosions to the face without seriously getting hurt.

By the way Punisher and Jigsaw has taken a grenade at point blank range.

It’s also not uncommon for street levelers to survive explosions. Its just the comic thing.

Gets blown up by Punisher, doesn't even stop him from talking.
http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/0905/2e/d35ce83a6d93.jpg
http://i080.radikal.ru/0905/f1/1951c5886a78.jpg

One HUGE explosion. Not a scratch on Deadpool.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7868/deadpool01p092sv.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5219/deadpool01p102vc.jpg

These are durability showings not healing.

Originally posted by red sabre
and for the people who say gambit could have killed cap if he charged him some more, what do you think cap would do if gambit was trying to charge him further? just stand there and take it? notice how gambit charge him quickly and kick him away because if gambit would be trying to do this any longer cap would simply one shot him straight into his jaw, gambit potentially can charge cap further and kill him however he wont ever get the chance to do it, and as we saw when cap is serious buisness gambit isnt going to get a chance to hurt him in any way as long as cap got his shield with him.

Cap knew Gambit was trying to charge him. He was just so cocky he forgot that his chainmail wasn't organic. It says so right there on panel in their conversation.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cap knew Gambit was trying to charge him. He was just so cocky he forgot that his chainmail wasn't organic. It says so right there on panel in their conversation.

i know however lets pretend gambit was trying to charge cap further, do you honestly believe cap would be standing all that time and just letting him charge and charge while looking deep into his eyes like he is some lover boy? seriously gambit wont get the chance to do something like that.

if people believe gambit can charge the same object further and therefor make the explosion even stronger i would like a proof that the longer gambit is charging something the stronger the explosion gets.