Classic Beyonder vs Lucifer

Started by fangirl10126 pages
Originally posted by celestialdemon
My point is you stating omnireality isn't the same as omniverse. If you actually read Marvel comics, you would know that universe and reality are often interchangeable.

Reality can mean more than just universe. But that would make the IG only universal if the LT clearly says the fight would destroy THIS reality.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

im still waiting for scans that show on panel the mention of anything other than a UNIverse.

Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other UniverseS,

Like Horus:

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"

And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

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bangin

That right there is solid proof, The End; Marvel was dealing with MORE than one Universe.

Not that it will make a difference to your thick skull,
but I do this for the onlookers,
to bury you in your bull shit for your insults based on complete ignorance.

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Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

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"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

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And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:

The PROOF:

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"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"

Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

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"I was Everything"

Ain't that the truth.

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if you read marvel, youll see that omnireality/omniverse/multiverse/megaverse/omniverce are ALL interchangeable. that is fact and that is why the inconcistancies come in. that and there being no one definition accepted for any two situations of the meaning of all these terms. fact remains that even with omnireality, the destruction is repreatedly referred to as that of a UNIverse and the creator also says UNIverse. so if we go by your and master's arguments that om panel statements hold ultimate weight than all that THOTU destroyed was a UNIVERSE. it is never referred to as anything else, i think u can see that in the comic.

and yet again, nowhere does it say MULTIverse or MEGAverse or OMNIverse. just repeatedly UNIverse. keep at it.

Everybody stop now. Thanks. Any more trouble and the thread will be closed. Those of you who have been carrying on in multiple threads will receive a warning.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (Omniverse)

................................................................................

"I was Everything ... bonded to [B]Omni-Reality"

................................................................................

And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:

The PROOF:

................................................................................

"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"

Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

................................................................................

"I was Everything"

Ain't that the truth.

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Could he have not been everything within that reality? Becuz he did miss others such as adam warlock. How can you be everything and then get taken by surprise?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other UniverseS,

Like Horus:

"[B]Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"

And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

......................................................................................

bangin

That right there is solid proof, The End; Marvel was dealing with MORE than one Universe.

Not that it will make a difference to your thick skull,
but I do this for the onlookers,
to bury you in your bull shit for your insults based on complete ignorance. [/B]

Meh, you can look at that scan a few different ways..

Say an alien invasion threatened to destroy the earth. Now say the US called every other country to their aide. One might say all of the countries on earth were unified because: "tis also their world that be imperiled."

Does that imply that seperate earths' are being mentioned? Nah, just that one individual earth needs to unite in order to beat said aliens.

That's how I read it, in the singular sense. You, on the other hand, chose to look at that statement in the plural sense. *shrug* like I said, open to interpretation.

Originally posted by Galan007

Meh, you can look at that scan a few different ways..


Not imo.

Originally posted by Galan007

Say an alien invasion threatened to destroy the earth. Now say the US called every other country to their aide. One might say all of the countries on earth were unified because: "tis also their world that be imperiled."

Does that imply that seperate earths' are being mentioned? Nah, just that one individual earth needs to unite in order to beat said aliens.


I have to disagree with this real world un-related analogy good friend.

The US and other countries of Earth, are all on the same Earth.

But in the Marvel Universe,
Timelines are located in different/separate Universes.

So if Horus was coming from 1334 BC, (Ancient Egypt)
he was definitely located in ANOTHER Universe/Timeline.

Here Vishnu states that Aknehaten originated from the PAST of 616:

"Lord Horus arrives late to a meet concerning dire peril emanating from Ancient Egypt"

"Ancient Egypt" is still in existence in some Timeline,

can anyone say the 4321 Timeline.

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And 4321 is the Past of 616:

1334 BC. = Earth-4321 Reality

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not imo.

I have to disagree with this real world un-related analogy good friend.

The US and other countries of Earth, are all on the same Earth.

But in the Marvel Universe,
[b]Timelines are located in different/separate Universes
.

So if Horus was coming from 1334 BC, (Ancient Egypt)
he was definitely located in ANOTHER Universe/Timeline. [/B]

And that's your opinion. 🙂 I'ze just stating mine. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007

And that's your opinion.


Actually, what I'm stating is Marvel facts, not opinions good friend.

Look at my edited post now.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, what I'm stating is Marvel facts, not opinions good friend.

Look at my edited post now.

Obviously the 'dire peril' emanated from Ancient Egypt. That's where Ake was originally abducted - but he didn't actually became a universal sort of threat until he reappeared in current times.

That's when it was "also their universe that be imperiled".

Again, I have my opinion on the matter, and you have yours. 🙂

DC>Marvel

Who has the weirdest hair in this battle?

Originally posted by Galan007

Obviously the 'dire peril' emanated from Ancient Egypt. That's where Ake was originally abducted - but he didn't actually became a universal sort of threat until he reappeared in current times.


That's not accurate.

Ak, was traveling with the Celetsial Order across Time and Space.

In fact, this is why his domain was a "blending of different RealitieS"

Originally posted by Galan007

That's when it was "also their universe that be imperiled".


I have to disagree.

Horus' Universe is located at another point of Space/Time (1334 BC) the Past.

Doom's Universe is located in the current point of Space/Time (2003) the Present.

There's no way they're referring to the same Universe, no chance at all.

Originally posted by Galan007

Again, I have my opinion on the matter, and you have yours.


Again, on this one, I have no opinion,
I'm just following Marvel facts.

The year 1334 is another Universe, (reality-4321) simple as that.

^^

Originally posted by Galan007
And that's your opinion. 🙂 I'ze just stating mine. 🙂

Originally posted by Bentley
Who has the weirdest hair in this battle?
Beyonder, fo sho.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Horus' Universe is located at another point of Space/Time (1334 BC) the Past.

Doom's Universe is located in the current point of Space/Time (2003) the Present.

There's no way they're referring to the same Universe, no chance at all.

The Year 1334 is another Universe, (reality-4321) simple as that.


If evidence is needed to prove that all Past and Future Marvel Timelines
are different/separate Universes from the 616 reality,
let a brother know. 🙂

Guys, this thread has gone WAY off topic for a few pages. I will have to close it if we don't get back to the topic.

IMO Marvel Cosmics generally>DC Cosmics...

Anyway, Beyonder wins.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
IMO Marvel Cosmics generally>DC Cosmics...

Anyway, Beyonder wins.

So tell us, Who are
Lucifer, The Arc Angel, The Word, The Logoz, The Ultimator, Beings of the 6th Dimension, The overmaster, Chronos, the ALE, The Source, The combined Entity, The Phantom Stranger, The Overmaster, Shazam, The Kismet, The lords of Order, Of Chaos, Dominus, The Gaurdians, the Controllers, The Zamarans, The Infinite Man, Extant, Hour man with the Worlogog, Krona, The Anti-Monitor, The Monitors, etc.

Originally posted by fangirl101
So tell us, Who are
Lucifer, The Arc Angel, The Word, The Logoz, The Ultimator, Beings of the 6th Dimension, The overmaster, Chronos, the ALE, The Source, The combined Entity, The Phantom Stranger, The Overmaster, Shazam, The Kismet, The lords of Order, Of Chaos, Dominus, The Gaurdians, the Controllers, The Zamarans, The Infinite Man, Extant, Hour man with the Worlogog, Krona, The Anti-Monitor, The Monitors, etc.
All weaker than PR Beyonder describes them pretty well.