Aquaman VS Colossus

Originally posted by comicfan11
He doesn't have Flash superspeed.
But he can blitz someone like a GL (Powering) or Titus or The Eel.
And he can outrun an enraged angel (while jumping from roof to roof)
He is certainly waaaay faster than a brick (even an agile one like Colossus)
Fast enough for a human NOT TO SEE HIM MOVE.
I don't know if this is called superspeed
but it certainly is FAAAST

Plus I don't get all the doubt.
He has beaten a character with HERCULE'S strength (and superspeed, invulnerability, flight, etc) in h2h and Herc>Colossus.
He even fought Ultraman, Wonder Woman and Despero (after he took out Martian Manhanter) out of water and was fine.
Especially in Despero's case he was more than fine until D used telepathy.

All of these characters are above Colossus physically and in all of those fights Aquaman used only his physical attributes.

I don't see Piotr taking this.
Orin ftw.

That's what i thought, so basically aquaman can intiate attacks while propelling his body at superspeed to something that is similar to somone like"Flash or Quicksilver". Those scans would be awesome if u had them, oh and has he ever reacted to someone attacking at superspeed?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not if it was completly waterlogged, no it's not. If there were air pockets that can leveate some of the weight not all.

Originally posted by Starscream M
its easier to lift things underwater

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not if it was completly waterlogged, no it's not. If there were air pockets that can leveate some of the weight not all.

Well cement brick and mortar have air pockets.

Colossus would have no problem lifting Aquamans greatest weight, unless someone is suggesting that Aquaman is stronger than Colossus.

rock and stone are not buoyant.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
That's what i thought, so basically aquaman can intiate attacks while propelling his body at superspeed to something that is similar to somone like"Flash or Quicksilver". Those scans would be awesome if u had them, oh and has he ever reacted to someone attacking at superspeed?

The respect thread has them.
But it's 14 pages.
If you have time you can find them.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
rock and stone are not buoyant.

Cement, brick, and mortar all contain tiny pockets of air, so I would say that we can remove at least 10-20% of the total weight that he lifted underwater not to mention air pockets in crawl spaces all over the place.

Colossus' very body would put Aquaman at a disadvantage if they were to fight blow for blow. As a teen Colossus was weaker than he is now, and his body remained mostly intact from a blast by the Beyonder.

Originally posted by Stoic
Cement, brick, and mortar all contain tiny pockets of air, so I would say that we can remove at least 10-20% of the total weight that he lifted underwater not to mention air pockets in crawl spaces all over the place.

Colossus' very body would put Aquaman at a disadvantage if they were to fight blow for blow. As a teen Colossus was weaker than he is now, and his body remained mostly intact from a blast by the Beyonder.

10%-20%
So he lifted some less thousand tons.
Your point?

Point is that Colossus is stronger than Aquaman, and far more durable, while Aquaman is faster, so if they went at it in a slugfest Aquaman would lose, how can i say this? Well a weaker younger Colossus did well against a being that would destroy Aquaman very quickly.... Gladiator.

I've never been a fan of lifting things underwater. But is this feat impressive considering he carried it water logged to shore? And to get it to shore he had to carry it on his back for 2 miles.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

I have also seen a scan where it's stated the blackbird weighs 300 tons.

Originally posted by Stoic
Point is that Colossus is stronger than Aquaman, and far more durable, while Aquaman is faster, so if they went at it in a slugfest Aquaman would lose, how can i say this? Well a weaker younger Colossus did well against a being that would destroy Aquaman very quickly.... Gladiator.

Originally posted by Stoic
Point is that Colossus is stronger than Aquaman, and far more durable, while Aquaman is faster, so if they went at it in a slugfest Aquaman would lose, how can i say this? Well a weaker younger Colossus did well against a being that would destroy Aquaman very quickly.... Gladiator.

LOL
Aquaman beat Olympian (a guy with Hercules strength "schizofrenic SUPERMAN of Greece)
Did well (as you say) against ULTRAMAN (Earth -3 Superman)
Manhandled Despero.
Took punched from an enraged Wonder Woman.
KOed with one punch Superboy.
Stalemated Lobo.
Broke through a steel cage with one hand.
Pawned the entire Deep Six (and Slig is stated as a class 100 character)
Beat Trigon who held Wonder Woman with one hand and she couldn't break free.

ALL of these guys would wreck Colossus (especially Despero or Ultraman) easy.

So Colossus feat is only "doing well against Gladiator".
The same glads that Gambit took out with a deck of cards.

I'm still waiting on some proof that Piotr is stronger.
What's the most he has lifted?
The tougher opponent he actually defeat?

Orin has the feats.
Piotr so far in this thread has only hype.

You know why?
Because Marvel has that stupid site with that stupid scale system.

DC doesn't have one.
For all we know Blue Devil or Atom Smasher could be the so called "class 100"

Who cares?
Feats define the characters.
Not someone saying "Colossus is stronger because he has more red bars in Marvel's site"

I won't argue that Aquaman is stronger than Colossus, as I really couldn't say for sure, but I will say that I haven't seen Colossus do anything that really struck me as vastly beyond Arthur. The Blackbird seems to pale in comparison to several of Aquaman's feats (like the aforementioned city block. Going head to head with Gladiator...well, Aquaman did fight a successful delaying action against Ultraman, yet another Superman class figure.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I've never been a fan of lifting things underwater. But is this feat impressive considering he carried it water logged to shore? And to get it to shore he had to carry it on his back for 2 miles.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

I have also seen a scan where it's stated the blackbird weighs 300 tons.

This is the Kong,a giant sub from the JLApe storyline (look at it's size in comparison with the buildings of Atlantis)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/60/aquamanannual0536cv0.jpg

Here Aquaman intercepts it (saving another sub) and then proceeds to leap out of the ocean and drag it with him
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4748/aquamanvsthekong2hy3.jpg

Originally posted by BentonGrey
I won't argue that Aquaman is stronger than Colossus, as I really couldn't say for sure, but I will say that I haven't seen Colossus do anything that really struck me as vastly beyond Arthur. The Blackbird seems to pale in comparison to several of Aquaman's feats (like the aforementioned city block. Going head to head with Gladiator...well, Aquaman did fight a successful delaying action against Ultraman, yet another Superman class figure.

That's what I'm saying.
What does Colossus have to back up all of his hype.
Orin's feats are all over the place.

To be fair, the only time Colossus lifted anything underwater it weighed 300 tons and he carried it on his back effortlessly for 2 miles to shore. And the waster isn't his realm it's AC's. So what has AC lifted on land?

Well, he held up a collapsing building...in a fire...by himself.

Originally posted by BentonGrey
Well, he held up a collapsing building...in a fire...by himself.

Snoop where did it say the blackbird was 300 tons? As I think in one of the old handbooks list it around 60-70 tons.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Snoop where did it say the blackbird was 300 tons? As I think in one of the old handbooks list it around 60-70 tons.