Originally posted by snoopdogg
Are you the type of guy who can get slapped across the face but a ghost and then turn aroud and say "On, that was the wind"?
No.
Are you the guy who can answer some logical questions (like the whole conjuration think and the whole "I pushed Juggernaut in a pool while he wasn't looking"😉 and not start insulting people?
Originally posted by comicfan11The only way to beat Juggernaut is via BFR. That's what Colossus did.
No.
Are you the guy who can answer some logical questions (like the whole conjuration think and the whole "I pushed Juggernaut in a pool while he wasn't looking"😉 and not start insulting people?
S'ym fought Colossus in Limbo where he was at his most powerful. I think maybe you should read a few more Marvel comics.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The only way to beat Juggernaut is via BFR. That's what Colossus did.S'ym fought Colossus in Limbo where he was at his most powerful. I think maybe you should read a few more Marvel comics.
I will.
As you should more DC.
But for now just answer me that or give me a scan or an issue number.
In what issue did this guy Sum break adamantium by strength?
Or did he just claim it on a panel.
As for Juggs I know that the only way is to BFR him, BUT what Colossus did could easily be done by the Beast or Spiderman.
Juggs doesn't way more than a couple of tons at best.
All Piotr did was sneak up on him and push him a little while Cain wasn't looking.
Hardly something impressive.
As for Antaeus claims don't equal feats.
Originally posted by comicfan11Well Colossus did say Anateus is far stronger than he is. Being they were fighting eachother I would say it's safe to assume he was as strong as he says he is.
I will.
As you should more DC.But for now just answer me that or give me a scan or an issue number.
In what issue did this guy Sum break adamantium by strength?
Or did he just claim it on a panel.As for Juggs I know that the only way is to BFR him, BUT what Colossus did could easily be done by the Beast or Spiderman.
Juggs doesn't way more than a couple of tons at best.
All Piotr did was sneak up on him and push him a little while Cain wasn't looking.Hardly something impressive.
As for Antaeus claims don't equal feats.
Illyana thought Colossus was dead and that that was just a conjuration of Colossus. Which is was not.
Originally posted by Raoul
what issue is this?
Despero appeared and started beating MM in #117 (2005) of the previous JLA series (written by Geoff Johns the same guy who wrote Virtue and Vice- where Despero was manhandling four heavyhitters at the same time)
Aquaman fought him in the next issue #118 (2005)
Originally posted by comicfan11I remember that fight. But wasn't there circumstances?
Despero appeared and started beating MM in #117 (2005) of the previous JLA series (written by Geoff Johns the same guy who wrote Virtue and Vice- where Despero was manhandling four heavyhitters at the same time)Aquaman fought him in the next issue #118 (2005)
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well Colossus did say Anateus is far stronger than he is. Being they were fighting eachother I would say it's safe to assume he was as strong as he says he is.Illyana thought Colossus was dead and that that was just a conjuration of Colossus. Which is was not.
Thank you for you reply.
As far as Antaeus goes seems Colossus used his skill which is cool.
But Orin is also skilled (actually extremely skilled if it comes to that and he is used to taking out strong guys)
Anyway Anataeus seems strong but still the whole mountain moving claim is just that a claim.
Cool fight though.
I don't want to sound annoying (which I will probably) but what about the whole "he can break adamantium thing for Sym"?
An issue number at least, because as far as i know many top tiers tried to break adamantium and failed.
It's hard to believe a guy that strong was beaten so easy by Colossus.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I remember that fight. But wasn't there circumstances?
Despero arrived on Earth holding MM one handed.
Orin poked him with a still rod and then the fight was on.
The next thing you see is Despero being punched through a ship and thrown in the sea (that had to be some dozen meters punch)
In the sea some sharks attack Despero.
You can see some wounds on Orin (meaning there was trading of hits) and then Orin punches Despero again out of the sea (a punch that sends him some more dozen meters flying)
After that Orin and MM try to use telepathy against Despero.
The fight ends when they are both possessed.
What circumstances you mean?
It was an old school h2h fight.
Originally posted by comicfan11I already said AC wins if he can use his bag of tricks. But if it goes melee I side with the man of steele.
Despero arrived on Earth holding MM one handed.
Orin poked him with a still rod and then the fight was on.
The next thing you see is Despero being punched through a ship and thrown in the sea (that had to be some dozen meters punch)In the sea some sharks attack Despero.
You can see some wounds on Orin (meaning there was trading of hits) and then Orin punches Despero again out of the sea (a punch that sends him some more dozen meters flying)
After that Orin and MM try to use telepathy against Despero.
The fight ends when they are both possessed.What circumstances you mean?
It was an old school h2h fight.
Originally posted by comicfan11
Despero arrived on Earth holding MM one handed.
Orin poked him with a still rod and then the fight was on.
The next thing you see is Despero being punched through a ship and thrown in the sea (that had to be some dozen meters punch)In the sea some sharks attack Despero.
You can see some wounds on Orin (meaning there was trading of hits) and then Orin punches Despero again out of the sea (a punch that sends him some more dozen meters flying)
After that Orin and MM try to use telepathy against Despero.
The fight ends when they are both possessed.What circumstances you mean?
It was an old school h2h fight.
Comics have always applied CIS, are you suggesting that Aquaman would be able to be a serious match for Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Thor... and others on or around Despero's level.
Is this what you believe?
Originally posted by comicfan11
Despero appeared and started beating MM in #117 (2005) of the previous JLA series (written by Geoff Johns the same guy who wrote Virtue and Vice- where Despero was manhandling four heavyhitters at the same time)Aquaman fought him in the next issue #118 (2005)
oh, that's what you were referring to?
oh, ok... 😕
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I already said AC wins if he can use his bag of tricks. But if it goes melee I side with the man of steele.
Cool with me we will just have to agree to disagree.
BTW I just read about the Sy'm thing (not he issue itself) but reviews and summaries say that this was an alternate reality Wolvie and that the magic of that place played havoc with everyone.
Something like Wolverine being alive while his skeleton lying there etc but I'll have to find the issue and read for myself to see what happened.
Originally posted by comicfan11It was an alternate reality Wolverine. But I don't see why the adamantium would be any different....they went through the trouble to still put it on his bones.
Cool with me we will just have to agree to disagree.BTW I just read about the Sy'm thing (not he issue itself) but reviews and summaries say that this was an alternate reality Wolvie and that the magic of that place played havoc with everyone.
Something like Wolverine being alive while his skeleton lying there etc but I'll have to find the issue and read for myself to see what happened.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
It was an alternate reality Wolverine. But I don't see why the adamantium would be any different....they went through the trouble to still put it on his bones.
It could be like that.
But Ultimates is a different reality and their adamantium is nowhere near as strong as the 616 version.
Alternate characters (like Elseworlds) are not one and the same...
Plus the feat with the barrier is impressive but I read that this was an illusion (from X-men Annual #4)
So I don't even know if this is even a physical feat or a mental one.
Originally posted by comicfan11Dr. Strange was still unable to get through the barrier. And they were in another dimension.
It could be like that.
But Ultimates is a different reality and their adamantium is nowhere near as strong as the 616 version.
Alternate characters (like Elseworlds) are not one and the same...Plus the feat with the barrier is impressive but I read that this was an illusion (from X-men Annual #4)
So I don't even know if this is even a physical feat or a mental one.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Dr. Strange was still unable to get through the barrier.
Yeah but it was an illusion...
Weaker characters have dispeeled illusions before even if more powerful ones couldn't.
Spiderman is used in fighting illusions (Mysterio) he might be able to break free easier than all of them together.
I don't think this has to do with strength.