Originally posted by comicfan11They were in another dimension. Dr. Strange does not get fooled by illusions.
Yeah but it was an illusion...
Weaker characters have dispeeled illusions before even if more powerful ones couldn't.Spiderman is used in fighting illusions (Mysterio) he might be able to break free easier than all of them together.
I don't think this has to do with strength.
Originally posted by Stoic
Comics have always applied CIS, are you suggesting that Aquaman would be able to be a serious match for Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Thor... and others on or around Despero's level.Is this what you believe?
You are the poster who believed that Spiderman was stronger than Aquaman correct?
And previously stated that Orin is class 40-50 at best correct?
Um...yeah...
Anyway Aquaman HAS BEATEN characters on that level (Olympian, Triton- at least WW) before.
Don't act like it's something that hasn't already happened.
And it's far from CIS (something that can't be said for Spidey vs Firelord) WHEN THE CHARACTER IN QUESTION PROVIDES THE SAME LEVEL OF FEATS FOR 14 CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
HE ALSO HAD 2 MAJOR POWER UPS.
The Aquaman you have in mind is certainly an older version.
But if you ask me would Aquaman win any of these fights in a DC comic?
Not likely.
They are DC property and some of their holy cows, so in no way would they let him have a good showing that would hurt them.
But the fact remains.
He took hits from an enraged WW and broke free from her hold and in an earlier issue of JLA rushed her and took her down momentarily.
But that's the closer you'll get to this fight, because it has never been depicted on panel before complete.
If you are talking underwater, then Aquaman is certainly taking some wins out of 10 (not even DC would portray him loosing in his element.)
Actually he has beaten Kyle Ryner underwater and Superboy.
And he stalemated Lobo out of water.
And etc... (just read the whole thread I've posted the same stuff again and again)
So to answer you question I could see him taking some wins underwater against some of them but DC wouldn't let something like that happen easy (if at all) and even more difficult out of water.
But he has beaten LESS FAMOUS character WITH THE SAME POWERSET before.
The only thing that change was mainly the name.
Well, I am not necessarily arguing that Aquaman is as strong as Colossus (it seems that Pitor has been upgraded since I was reading X-Men), but just because he isn't as strong as him doesn't mean that he can't beat him in a fight. Aquaman may not be able to BEAT the ultra top-tier characters, but he can go several rounds with them, and even stalemate them on some occasions, much like Colossus.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
They were in another dimension. Dr. Strange does not get fooled by illusions.
I'll also have to read it I guess but fro what I read from other sources it was an illusion, and dispelling an illusion doesn't require physical strength.
Anyway I'll call it a night for now.
Cheers.
Originally posted by comicfan11You will find out they were brought to this dimension in hopes of beating Margali Szardos.
I'll also have to read it I guess but fro what I read from other sources it was an illusion, and dispelling an illusion doesn't require physical strength.
Anyway I'll call it a night for now.
Cheers.
I saw ultimate Colossus trashing wolverine without a heart. Is this some new upgrade? I know he doesn't need to eat and breath in his armored form. Is Colossus now immortal in his metal form? There are so many abilities that you just see once in awhile. ex, resistence to magic. The writers don't write him consistently, there are times he looks bad ass then they portray him as a whimp. It's hard to keep track of what he can or can't do.